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2013-10-15 01:44:22 PM  
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The USA and Russia have done complete 180's; russia has a balanced budget and low taxes, and the USA is starting to resemble the USSR.
2013-10-15 02:07:34 PM  
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ferretman: Farkers should pool their money together and buy an island outside US jurisdiction and open a server farm. Could change exorbitant fees without the threat of lawsuits and all get rich. Can maintain the servers while sitting on a beach drinking my-ti's.

And who is going to provide this tech utopia with connectivity?  At what cost and under what stipulations?

/It's spelled Mai Tai.
2013-10-15 01:15:10 PM  
1 vote:
Pause and think about this for a moment. Your going to move servers out of the US where there are at least some laws and court oversight restraining how the NSA works to another country where there are no laws or court oversight restraining the NSA. I can't possibly be the only person that sees this as a massive logic failure.
2013-10-15 01:14:17 PM  
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Publikwerks: This is funny because if you really think your data is safer in Russia, you deserve to have your email's read. The difference between Russia and the United States is that laws protect people's ability to check up on the government.

Hell, reporters without boards lists Russia as 148 out of 179 countries for press freedom. So they may be doing the very same thing as the NSA, they just don't let people talk about it.

The difference is that if you live in the USA, Russia isn't going to hand over your unenciphered communications to the NSA.  Sure, the FAPSI and GRU Sixth Directorate might read them, but as long as you aren't in Russia, there isn't really all that much they can do about it.

Consider the reverse situation:  If Chechen rebels/dissidents/criminals in Russia were communicating via encrypted e-mails using a web-based e-mail service located in the United States, do you think the NSA would pass the unencrypted communications to Russia?
2013-10-15 01:02:34 PM  
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The desire to relocate is not to avoid interception of traffic in flow.  It is to prevent US government agencies from coming into a data center and saying they are going to monitor (or take/copy) the servers.. and you can't say anything to your clients.  Its to avoid situations like LavaBit where they were literally ordered to turn over the keys of the kingdom to the FBI.  For companies or individuals that don't want their data in the hands of the US government or a unauthorized third party, one solution is make sure your data is not in a US data center in the first place.  The NSA and others are good, but they do rely heavily on the court ordered cooperation of Google, Yahoo, ATT and lots of other providers.

Now, I am very skeptical that Russia is the go to place to keep your data safe, but I'm sure there are more trusted locations that are being looked at.  The loss of trust in data security is bad for US data centers and the people that support them.
2013-10-15 12:49:33 PM  
1 vote:
Wow.  It's a damn good thing the NSA doesn't do any spying overseas.
2013-10-15 12:39:59 PM  
1 vote:
Your cunning plan isn't going to work as well as you think it will.

From the linked article: The collection depends on secret arrangements with foreign telecommunications companies or allied intelligence services in control of facilities that direct traffic along the Internet's main data routes.

Basically, the NSA intercepts information abroad because it wouldn't be legal to do it on US soil.
2013-10-15 12:38:24 PM  
1 vote:
Just because they're not handing your info over to the NSA doesn't mean they're not reading your email.
2013-10-15 12:37:33 PM  
1 vote:
In before the irony police. Anyone who looked at the recent history of Russia would know that Russia temporarily became a liberterian utopia after the fall of the USSR. Temporary of course because libertarianism doesn't work as an ideology and the buyouts from the rich left most of the population on the edge of starvation until Putin came in and kept things from collapsing.

Anyway, the point is that it is in no way surprising that modern Russia is more lax in terms of regulation even now, and thus not really ironic.
2013-10-15 12:37:06 PM  
1 vote:
Not news: To protect customers from government intrusion, Internet companies are moving their servers to a country that offers greater freedom safe havens for money launderers.


//"Malaysia-based finance advisory firm"?
2013-10-15 12:35:53 PM  
1 vote:
You can do anything in Russia if your bribes are big enough.  And you can keep up on them, for everything, forever.
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