Muta: You know what will not shrink the federal budget? Defaulting! Defaulting on our debts will increase the interest rate we pay on the money we borrowed.
bdub77: The vast, vast majority of them are just fanatics or hypocrites with no idea about what it takes to keep the country functioning, to feed and clothe the elderly and the underprivileged, to keep roads functioning, to keep food safe, to monitor and prevent diseases, and so on. Many of them are just plain old racists and authoritarians who want to see the world burn without understanding what that actually means.
jaytkay: TheDumbBlonde: Peter von Nostrand: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I've never understood how representatives being in line with their constituency is a bad thing.That is kind of what representative means.Except the represent all of their constituents. Not 10% of themThat would imply that only 10% elected him/her.No, that would imply that the worst 10% are the biggest loudmouths.
Mugato: Don't be too proud of this Tea Party terror you've constructed. The ability to attempt to destroy Obamacare is insignificant next to the power of people who have brain stems.Really, serious question, what is the "given" reason for the obsession with stopping Obamacare? And don't tell me that it'll cost too much. We waste more money on defense spending on shiat that we'll never even use and foreign aid that doesn't benefit us in the least than we ever will on health care for our own citizens.
Mugato: parasol: The one I've seen most often?It is forcing people to buy something they "can't afford and don't want" - and it is a tax -Tea People don't want taxes - esp for things they (see above) - rinse, repeatRight because there are people in their right mind who think they are immortal and will never need health insurance and also don't care about their precious tax dollars going to people who get free health care through the ER and other means.Or it could be just "fark you, I got mine",
HotIgneous Intruder: I say we expedite their separation and exclusion from the system they find so objectionable.Perhaps by any means necessary.
lilbjorn: Cabal of the ultra-rich who control the Tea Party now has direct control over their representatives. Fear will keep the Republicans in line. Fear of this think tank cabal.FTFY
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orclover: Well if praying didnt fix the cancer, then you were not praying hard enough.
Mugato: orclover: Well if praying didnt fix the cancer, then you were not praying hard enough.That sort of belief indicates a belief in a God who is a real dick. I don't see how anyone could argue that point.
SilentStrider: Dinobot: [userserve-ak.last.fm image 400x400] "Direct intervention is necessary."So in this scenario, Obama is Shepard?I like that.
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Peter von Nostrand: Except the represent all of their constituents. Not 10% of themI think the number is a little higher then 10% or the representatives would just ignore them.
The Stealth Hippopotamus: I've never understood how representatives being in line with their constituency is a bad thing.That is kind of what representative means.
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Eddie Adams from Torrance: When I was younger it used to drive me crazy to watch the Democrats get soundly beaten by running on their most liberal ideas.Meanwhile, the Republicans were the pragmatic ones, realizing that your platform doesn't matter at all if you can't manage to get yourself elected.Somehow, the Democrats seemed to have learned this lesson while Republicans have gone full retard and then some.I think we can blame the Religious Right TM for throwing the Republicans off track. You see you can't control a woman uterus if you believe in small government. You need a big government with lots and lots of power if you want to legislate morality! And in order to get that big overreaching government you need to tax the bejebus out of people to fund it.So now you have both parties wanting to grow government and tax us. A lose-lose if you will.
Fart_Machine: Mugato: orclover: Well if praying didnt fix the cancer, then you were not praying hard enough.That sort of belief indicates a belief in a God who is a real dick. I don't see how anyone could argue that point.I think that God's got a sick sense of humor.
odinsposse: What's so strange about this is that the only threat to America in this situation is the Tea Party. There was no external event or big story that resulted in this political reaction. There is no force causing this crisis except Tea Party's desire for it.
timujin: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Peter von Nostrand: Except the represent all of their constituents. Not 10% of themI think the number is a little higher then 10% or the representatives would just ignore them.There was a study recently that showed that conservative politicians overestimated how conservative their constituency actually was. That 10% is very, very loud.
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Dinobot: "Direct intervention is necessary."
Clutch2013: I've been here long enough. Up to this point, you've presented yourself to be smarter than this.
SwiftFox: There's an obvious solution to this.Article V of the Constitution specifies that if the legislatures of two-thirds of the states petition Congress for a constitutional amendment, then Congress must call a convention for proposing amendments.Between April 29, 1975 and January 29, 1980, 34 petitions from 30 different state legislatures were submitted to Congress on the subject of a Balanced Budget Amendment. The participating states were Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming.Since 1980, two additional state legislatures have petitioned Congress for a convention for a Balanced Budget Amendment, bringing the total number of participating states to 32.If two additional state legislatures were to petition, then the required two-thirds majority of states would be reached (34 out of 50 states), and Congress will be forced to call a Constitutional Convention.In reality, of course, when the next state petitions, Congress will be forced to enact such an amendment themselves and send it to the states for ratification, to prevent such Constitutional Convention possibly passing to the state other popular changes to the constitution they may not like.
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Clutch2013: I've been here long enough. Up to this point, you've presented yourself to be smarter than this.Well are you going just cast aspersions or do you have something useful to say?Do you really want to debate that the Religious Right has had a hold on the old GOP?How about debating that the RR doesn't want to control morality though legislation?Oh wait, you think that the RR doesn't want more control!!Both the RR and the modern day progressive Democrat have one thing in common, they believe they are better than you. You've seen it in this thread "morons" "they don't know what they are doing" "too stupid to know what is best for them". This leads to needing a large government to protect people from themselves, and trust me you need a really really big and intrusive government to protect someone from themselves.I'd rather have a laissez faire Democrat in power than a RR Republican any day of the week. But right now we don't have that option.
GhostFish: I know it might be heretical to suggest, but I have to wonder if maybe Left leaning individuals should swallow their pride and start throwing serious support and votes to the more moderate GOP candidates in red states. The principle of the lesser evil sucks, but if there's little to no chance of a Democrat victory somewhere...wouldn't you rather have the less insane Republican? And one who knows that he won because he received help from Democrats? Yes, accepting that help might hurt him some. But there has to be a point where the tradeoff is acceptable, doesn't there?The Tea Party has been dragging the GOP further and further to the right by threatening to deny support. Maybe we could drive them more to the left by offering it?
HotWingConspiracy: Nabb1: The more you tighten your grip, the more voters will slip through your fingers./Really? No one got to this before now?These guys get it[www.recordsale.de image 400x407]
Lord_Baull: Fart_Machine: Mugato: orclover: Well if praying didnt fix the cancer, then you were not praying hard enough.That sort of belief indicates a belief in a God who is a real dick. I don't see how anyone could argue that point.I think that God's got a sick sense of humor.A god that created the universe and everything in it also created Harlequin-type ichthyosis and Anencephaly, so yeah.
orclover: Lord_Baull: Fart_Machine: Mugato: orclover: Well if praying didnt fix the cancer, then you were not praying hard enough.That sort of belief indicates a belief in a God who is a real dick. I don't see how anyone could argue that point.I think that God's got a sick sense of humor.A god that created the universe and everything in it also created Harlequin-type ichthyosis and Anencephaly, so yeah.Think of a 85 year old woman. Small, decrepit, pious. Picture her on her knees, hands together praying, hard, out loud. Praying for god to give that false prophet lying Muslim traitor who has kidnapped this country terminal cancer. Blaming herself for not praying hard enough, for believing hard enough and letting the country down because it hasn't happened yet. But she will keep trying, because she cant let her country downTexas has a level of crazy that not many of you would understand.
GhostFish: TV's Vinnie: The right wing hates poor people. The right wing wants poor people to starve, suffer, and die.I think this is a bit hyperbolic, and ignores the more benevolent if misguided goals of the GOP.They don't want the poor to starve, suffer, and die. They just don't want the state to play such a large role in preventing it.They want the poor to find support through the charity of their local churches and communities, where they'll supposedly learn to be better people and improve their lives through learning to depend on God rather than the state. And they believe that the state should help promote that, rather than cutting out God as the middleman.It's all horribly misguided and not supported by the numbers, history, or Constitutional law.But casting them as cruel monsters isn't going to help anything.There are some Randian elements who probably do think along lines close to what you suggest. But they aren't representative of the whole right-wing. They've just worked their way to the top and to higher visibility by way of their sociopathic philosophy. If you're going to attack anyone, attack them. The rest of the right needs to see that these people have more in common with LaVeyan Satanism than Christianity.
TheShavingofOccam123: I'm so glad the Heritage Foundation has this country's best interest at heart./Congress passed Obamacare
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anfrind: Mugato: orclover: Well if praying didnt fix the cancer, then you were not praying hard enough.That sort of belief indicates a belief in a God who is a real dick. I don't see how anyone could argue that point.Man creates God in his own image.
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