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(Pro Football Talk)   Throwback week just got 20% duller after NFL bans use of throwback helmets with throwback uniforms   ( profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line
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2013-09-18 07:02:45 AM  
2 votes:
Screw this throwback uniform shiat. I want a throwback playing field.

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2013-09-17 09:31:33 PM  
2 votes:
Trifecta complete!  :D
2013-09-18 12:20:02 AM  
1 vote:

Di Atribe: You guys are still dorks, though.

yep, lulz.  All in good fun though.  Someone pointed out the trifecta as in play after the 'goaltending is magic' and 'Jim Irsay wants a pony' headlines.  So, I searched for a 3rd candidate.  I'm honestly surprised that I got a green for this.  :D
2013-09-18 12:17:56 AM  
1 vote:
You guys are still dorks, though.
2013-09-18 12:17:52 AM  
1 vote:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Di Atribe: How is this thread ponies? It's about helmets, you dorks.

The headline is an inverted pun on the '20% Cooler' meme.  Reference

Ack, Fark ate my link:

2013-09-18 12:13:05 AM  
1 vote:
How is this thread ponies? It's about helmets, you dorks.
2013-09-18 12:00:25 AM  
1 vote:
Put them back in leather helmets. That will put an end to all this "leading with the head" and "using the helmet as a weapon" nonsense.
2013-09-17 10:56:02 PM  
1 vote:
A MUCH better picture would've been this one where Aaron Rodgers is wearing a helmet that may actually be what the NFL is talking about.

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2013-09-17 10:21:04 PM  
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DemoKnite: I, too, was under the impression that the NFL was so flush with cash that they just had multiple helmets so when the patriots wear the one helmet with the guy snapping the ball it wasnt a paint job, but another helmet.  The article makes it sound like they are wearing Riddell helmets from 1985.

I don't think the article explains it well.  They can make new helmets with old logos, but helmets are customized and fitted for each individual player so they don't want to fit multiple helmets for each player because it increases the likelihood one player ends up with a poorly-fitted helmet.  Of course there are incidences where this is unavoidable (i.e. the helmet is no longer deemed safe because of use), but those can be dealt with on an ad-hoc basis.

The reason throwbacks fit into this, is because some teams have throwbacks that are significantly different from their current helmet.  With most teams (Bears, Bills) the throwback is the same base color as the helmet, so its an issue of just repainting a player's helmet.  In the case of the Bucs, the old base color (white) is different from their current base (pewter), so for the throwback to work, they'd have to manufacture a different helmet for each player and fit each one from scratch.  It's extra work and there is a chance to get it wrong.

I don't completely get the logic behind this, but I at least see where they are trying to go.
2013-09-17 10:01:40 PM  
1 vote:

TuteTibiImperes: I remember being told that if you wipe out on a bike and the helmet hits the ground hard you're supposed to replace it because the shock from the impact may make it less effective in the future.

That's primarily due to how bike helmets are constructed- the "protection" comes from a rather stiff, styrofoam-like filler, with a thin plastic shell and felt inserts for comfort. All of this is designed to be as light as possible, so functionally, bike helmets are disposable. A football helmet, by design, is supposed to stand up to hundreds, if not thousands, of punishing collisions. The outer plastic is much, much harder (and thicker), the inserts are gel/foam and the protection/cushion material is much denser and sturdier.

Completely different design philosophies, though I'm sure football helmets get replaced at the very least, every season. Wouldn't shock me if teams chose to replace them during week 8 or 9. (Or at least, refurbish them. They certainly get cleaned and polished regularly.)
2013-09-17 09:35:27 PM  
1 vote:
"The outside of the helmet can be modified by removing or replacing decals, but the helmet itself must stay the same."

I don't see the problem.
2013-09-17 09:27:57 PM  
1 vote:
Throwback Week - A fashion show for NFL merchandise.

/worst fashion show ever
2013-09-17 07:17:21 PM  
1 vote:

TuteTibiImperes: That's an odd situation.

I can see it being a problem if they wanted to use helmets that were functionally similar to those from the throwback years, but if it's just a paint job on an otherwise modern helmet, why is it a problem?

Because, they apparently use different helments (presumably the same model/etc, but different physical helments), rather than just repainting the players' usual helmets.  Considering how important it is that the helmet fit properly, and how helmets tend to 'mold' to one's head, I could see how using a different helmet, even of the same model, could make a difference.
2013-09-17 06:25:35 PM  
1 vote:
That's an odd situation.

I can see it being a problem if they wanted to use helmets that were functionally similar to those from the throwback years, but if it's just a paint job on an otherwise modern helmet, why is it a problem?
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