ontariolightning: In other news Duchess Kate is gonna have her baby soon. It's gonna be weird to have a Queen/King younger than me (if I live to see it)
Oldiron_79: If I was in Zims shoes I'd move to a rural area of an Ultra white state in the opposite corner of the US as FL, so like ID or MT.
The Stealth Hippopotamus: I prefer waffles
UNC_Samurai: johncb76006: UNC_Samurai: This is about the prosecution being unable to put together a compelling case.You don't go to jail just for being proven a racist asshole.I thought that the only people who could be racist was the white folk.Zimmerman is Hispanic.I'm sure you're trolling, but you should be aware that there can be significant racial tension between Hispanic and black communities.
biscuitsngravy: Warm syrup, definitely. 25 Secs in the microwave. REAL maple syrup only. Grew up on Aunt Jemima./still like fake syrup//married a Vermonter///slashie
Cataholic: Getting your face bashed in is NOT a reasonably foreseeable consequence of getting out of a car to find out where someone acting suspiciously ran to, any more than getting raped is a reasonably foreseeable consequence to wearing a skimpy skirt to a party. NOBODY should have to fear someone's criminal act and have it considered criminally negligent in failing to do so. Someone under the mistaken belief that you are not where you are supposed to be does not pose a reasonable threat to your life and you have no right to bash their head in until they commit some overt act that leads you to believe they are going to harm you. Even starting a simple scuffle with someone doesn't mean you forfeit your right to defend yourself if the other party wishes to turn it into a life or death struggle. The fact that many people fail to acknowledge these simple truths leads me to believe they have an ulterior motive and are merely using this case to try and restrict the rights of people to use firearms to lawfully defend themselves. If you want to be on the side of the poor oppressed criminal who society forces into a life of violence and theft, be my guest. Just be up front about that in voicing your opinion.
Warchild: mikaloyd: No black kids were harmed in the making of those pancakesI'm wondering how much time elapsed between snapping the shot and the dog eating his pancake mask off.
iq_in_binary: Cataholic: iq_in_binary: Penman: iq_in_binary: Penman: Pincy: Penman: iq_in_binary: Because the asshole who thinks a gun in his pocket makes him a cop that decided you looked suspicious won't go to jail for shooting you after starting a fight with you and losing.Every Trayvon cheerleader gets this wrong. Trayvon Martin started the fight.So we have video of how this whole thing went down?A 911 call and the injuries to Zimmerman.Yes, a 911 call where Zimmerman admitted to pursuing Martin. Despite being told not to.Active pursuit is threatening behavior. That's instigating a fight. Like I said, he was losing a fight he started, and like a little biatch pulled the gun because he was a sore loser.You can turn around and violently attack someone because they're walking down the same street as you? "Yes Officer, I thought he was pursuing me, I just didn't like the way he looked, so I beat the shiat out of him"In fact it seems like Trayvon might be the racist one, assuming that the Mexican guy is out to get him.Ok, I'm heavy on the self defense opinion myself, I think we may have started off on the wrong foot.Let me explain, I have insight into the legal system that you do not have. I was a legal investigator. A good one, I charged $150/hr for static surveillance and $225/hr plus the rates of other investigators helping me for dynamic surveillance. That's right, my job was following people.Let's get something straight, following people in a menacing manner IS against the law. For us? Unless we we're in confined quarters like a bar or strip club or restaurant, the general rule is stay the fark outside of a 20-30 yard bubble. Why? Because any closer can be considered menacing. Investigators have been charged with intimidation, stalking, disorderly behavior, you name it for trailing people. Because guess what, constantly following people around IS generally considered in the court of law to be threatening behavior.As a "legal professional" (don't kid yours ...
eagles95: Oh shait.....Skinny Al Sharpton is in full rant mode on MSNBC right now
slayer199: Treygreen13: To be clear, that wasn't me who said that. And Zimmerman is immune to being sued criminally or civilly in this matter in Florida. So it doesn't matter anymore.Sorry to attribute it to you...however, it looks like he can be sued:Martin's family can still file a civil suit against Zimmerman under Florida's Wrongful Death Act, which requires proof that Martin's death was caused by the negligence of another person or entity. To prove negligence under the statute, it must be shown that Zimmerman owed Martin a legal duty, that the duty owed was breached, and that an injury was caused to Martin by Zimmerman's breach.
Somacandra: I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure local legal definitions of assault and or battery might just vary a bit from wherever you're at. You don't have to actually hit someone to assault them in all cases.
Mentat: Dimensio: "Feeling threatened" is not inherently justification for use of violence.Why not? Isn't that the basis of Stand Your Ground laws?
silgryphon: [encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 274x184]
Jabberwookiee: Fark pancakes. I wanna talk about some motherfarking delicious tacos.
Shryke: Just an FYI to the DeathToZimmercan crowd: he may lament the event for the rest of this life, but he's going to be a millionaire in very short order. I think he will be ok.
johncb76006: I thought that the only people who could be racist was the white folk.Zimmerman is Hispanic.
Weaver95: if florida burns to the ground before monday morning...would anyone actually care?
ontariolightning: In other news (CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
gblive: How is he going to be a millionaire? Where is all of this money going to come from?
nosferatublue: Kevin72: Can you understand that he was scared crazy by the guy that kept following him? He was just 17.I cannot understand how you can apparently be certain of something supported only by your conjecture.The fact that you believe something so strongly without evidence should clue you in that you may be biased.
ontariolightning: JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
wedun: steamingpile: RockSteadyUSMC: The judicial system worked exactly how it's supposed to. There was enough reasonable doubt to acquit, and that was how it should be. The judicial system convicts based on facts and should prove beyond a reasonable doubt, not convict based on public opinion./USMC MP//Yes I have a clueThen you are obviously a racist sir!eh he had a "grill" and THC in his system at the time he was killedAlso he had a "criminal history"sounds like enough reasonable doubt for me.
EvilRacistNaziFascist: ontariolightning: In other news (CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.Disgraceful.
Shadowtag: How long before Gay Panic makes a big comeback in Florida?
Twitch Boy: Hey! Tim Lincecum has a no-no through seven innings!
Mighty Taternuts: He chased a kid that did nothing wrong after the 911 operator told him not to, how is that not ill-will?
Somacandra: There are plenty of blonde haired, blue-eyed, fair-skinned people who speak Spanish in S.A.
Johnny Bananapeel: [i.imgur.com image 369x640]
Dimensio: Mentat: Dimensio: "Feeling threatened" is not inherently justification for use of violence.Why not? Isn't that the basis of Stand Your Ground laws?No. "Stand your Ground" laws, which are not relevant to the current discussion, establish that an individual who has been placed in a reasonable fear -- which is defined as fear that is evident to any reasonable individual -- of imminent death, grievous bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual assault has no duty to retreat before using deadly force against an aggressor who is responsible for the existence of the reasonable fear. Merely "feeling threatened" is not sufficient, as such a broad scope would allow individuals to use deadly force even if their fear was not reasonable.
daRog: mikaloyd: NSFWIt is?
NorCalLos: skullkrusher:well, that's not rational then. Sure, he may be morally guilty of something but I don't think he is morally guilty of intentional murder. I have no ...I don't know how old you are, but when 4 LAPD officers were acquitted of beating the crap out of Rodney King and people rioted, the 4 officers were charged again in federal court. IIRC, two of them were found guilty. It would not have happened if not for riots. Even if it doesn't do any good, the possibility that it might do some good--a feeling of empowerment at the very least--is more than they're likely to get through traditional channels. African-Americans are what? 15% of the population? They have very little political (economic) power and it's decreasing every day.
StreetlightInTheGhetto: But no, making out Trayvon to be a punk thug kid does NOT have bearing NOR should it justify ANYTHING.
ontariolightning: In other news(CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order.http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-f or -firing-warning-shots/
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