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lantawa: F that....he'll be just fat.
WhyteRaven74: Demonrats: The similarities are that neither the rape victim or Zimmerman did anything illegal.Except for the whole stalking someone thing, it's illegal everywhere to just follow someone for the purposes of intimidation. Also for all we know, and there's no way he'd fess up to it, he might have had his gun drawn the whole time. In which case Martin would've been well within his rights to stand his ground.
ObnoxiousLonghorn: AgentPothead: And yet he'll be found guilty in a civil case for causing Martin's death. Funny how that works.Pretty sure they can't take that course of action. Not Guilty.
ObnoxiousLonghorn: Please, educate me on how George should have proceeded after being walloped and mounted like an animal. Go ahead.
Tatsuma: skullkrusher: what they're not missing is delicious, delicious baconYeah trust me, bacon is worth giving up over Shabbat. You have no idea what you are missing out on.
bigsteve3OOO: StreetlightInTheGhetto: bigsteve3OOO2013-07-13 10:54:07 PMStreetlightInTheGhetto: bigsteve3OOO: Albert: Obama, the DOJ, and the media attempted to railroad Zimmerman, This case was 100% political and anyone who thinks Zimmerman is guilty is probably an angry black person or you've been completely fooled and spun up by the lying media.AMEN. This should have never been more than a local story where no one was charged.Jesus this white lady who doesn't watch cable news feels f--king sorry for you two. And disgusted.Pleased that by Florida law he's not guilty, fine. Celebrating, diaf.A unarmed teen dead with only the survivor to definitely tell most of the tale - you think no one should have been charged??? That's what our f--king courts are FOR, to sort this sh-t out!WRONG! That is what investigators are for. The original ones said no case here. then Obama forced them to a trial. It is a sick use of the bully pulpit.From the other thread, because I have to respond:If you honestly believe the only reason the trial took place is because "OBAMA FORCED THEM TO A TRIAL", you are a f--king idiot. Although to be fair I am slightly envious of you. Ignorance is bliss, and it must be nice to be so SURE of things, all the time. And to have an easy target that you can blame when anything disturbs you, so you know where to direct your anger you truly know is justified.I would never want that for myself, but at the same time, I can see how comforting that must be to you.Actually, I heard that on talk radio. I thought it was funny so I repeated it. I find the liberal talking points more laughable. I am an equal opportunity poke-funner-at-guy.
TardFarker: I looks like Barry isn't getting laid tonight
DoctorCal: Bravo Two: Dammit, now I want pancakes.I thought you were leaving.
great_tigers: Lost in all of this I think we see a devastated Zimmerman, people reacting to a judgement of violence with more violence and the fact that we still have a young man who lost his life too early.
skullkrusher: NorCalLos: I don't mean to incite a riot here, but if I think rioting right now is a pretty rational thing to do.destroying property in your neighborhood because a latino dude was acquitted of murdering a black kid? That doesn't sound really rational
AgentPothead: And yet he'll be found guilty in a civil case for causing Martin's death. Funny how that works.
iq_in_binary: In FL there's a self defense immunity.
Cataholic: Getting your face bashed in is NOT a reasonably foreseeable consequence of getting out of a car to find out where someone acting suspiciously ran to, any more than getting raped is a reasonably foreseeable consequence to wearing a skimpy skirt to a party
ObnoxiousLonghorn: How humanity continues to survive is beyond me.
Cataholic: PsiChick: Cataholic: PsiChick: Pichu0102: Anyone who celebrates this should be shunned.Anyone who threatens him should be prosecuted.Anyone who thinks this means "open season on whatever minority I don't like" should be prosecuted.Violent rioters should be prosecuted.Furthermore, everyone should be depressed. A kid is dead, his family is scarred, and a man's life was thrown into chaos and will likely be haunted by this for the rest of his life.No one wins no matter what happens. My main concern was that people would celebrate this trial's conclusion, despite what a horrible thing that is to celebrate, and I was proven right.Uh...he brought that one on himself.../If you're Random Dumbfark, sure, you might not know that following a teen boy in the middle of the night is a stupid idea. If you're 'Captain of the Neighborhood Watch' with a 911 dispatcher telling you to stay the fark put...you have no goddamn excuse for the consequences, especially since you are the adult in the situation.I know. He should have just laid back and taken the beating he deserved. What did he think was gonna happen wearin that skirt?You want to know the difference between Zimmerman and a rape victim? Zimmerman chose to get out of his car and actively pursue Trayvon while armed*. Rape victims don't usually chase rapists around with guns./*And, as you would know if you knew the first damn thing about gun safety, while you are carrying a loaded weapon you DO NOT TAKE ACTION THAT MIGHT PROVOKE A FIGHT.//Godfarkingdamn, how do people miss the most basic gun-safety rules?Getting your face bashed in is NOT a reasonably foreseeable consequence of getting out of a car to find out where someone acting suspiciously ran to, any more than getting raped is a reasonably foreseeable consequence to wearing a skimpy skirt to a party. NOBODY should have to fear someone's criminal act and have it considered criminally negligent in failing to do so. Someone under the mistaken belief that you are not where you are supposed to be does not pose a reasonable threat to your life and you have no right to bash their head in until they commit some overt act that leads you to believe they are going to harm you. Even starting a simple scuffle with someone doesn't mean you forfeit your right to defend yourself if the other party wishes to turn it into a life or death struggle. The fact that many people fail to acknowledge these simple truths leads me to believe they have an ulterior motive and are merely using this case to try and restrict the rights of people to use firearms to lawfully defend themselves. If you want to be on the side of the poor oppressed criminal who society forces into a life of violence and theft, be my guest. Just be up front about that in voicing your opinion.
Treygreen13: And yet he'll be found guilty in a civil case for causing Martin's death. Funny how that works.
Bravo Two: Mentat: MelGoesOnTour: Mentat: MelGoesOnTour: For what it's worth, if Martin was such an innocent angel you'd think he'd have said to Zimmerman something along the lines of "Hey, bro', it's all good and I'm just walking home so be cool" rather than decide to attack him outright. Zimmerman may have been guilty of being too suspicious but Martin pulled the first punch.He didn't attack him outright. He confronted Zimmerman in his car and Zimmerman wouldn't identify himself. Trayvon then ran away and waited for Zimmerman to follow him, which he did.So Zimmerman was essentially ambushed?!Yes, he was, and that was never in dispute. Trayvon ran away and then waited to see if Zimmerman followed, which he did. Trayvon confronted him again and at some point started throwing punches. We don't know if Zimmerman said something to provoke him or if Trayvon saw the gun or if Trayvon simply decided to start throwing punches. But you know what? Zimmerman is a grown ass man. He should have known better than to put himself in that situation. The law is the law but common sense will save your ass far more often than the law will.Sadly, I have to agree with you now I have to shower.
ChaosStar: cretinbob: ChaosStar: Sbdolan: So what is up with people saying they cannot file for civil in florida? any one have a link?Justified self defense means he is immune to civil action stemming from the event.It's in the 776 chapter of Florida lawOnly if he had a SYG hearing, which he waived.He is not immune from civil penalties. O'Mara made sure that he can ride this cash cow as long as possible.[t.qkme.me image 310x198]You of all people want to challenge me on this?WRONG776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.-(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such forceSee that word "or"?That means if they used any of those three statutes, and won, they are immune.Period.
ontariolightning: @911BUFF: DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT CONFIRMS THEY HAVE RIOT POLICE ON ALERT AFTER GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S VERDICT. #911BUFF@911BUFF: MULTIPLE REPORTS OF LARGE CROWDS AND LARGE POLICE PRESENCE IN BROOKLYN FOLLOWING GEORGE ZIMMERMAN VERDICT. #911BUFF @911BUFF: CHICAGO POLICE RESPONDING TO DALEY PIZZA FOR A LARGE AND VIOLENT CROWD GATHERING AFTER GEORGE ZIMMERMAN VERDICT. #911BUF@911BUFF: MULTIPLE REPORTS OF COPS STORMING THE STREETS IN MIAMI RIGHT NOW AFTER GEORGE ZIMMERMAN VERDICT. #911BUFF
rhiannon: ontariolightning: @911BUFF: NBC REPORTS ANTI WAR AND ANTI RACISM ACTIVIST GROUPS CALLS FOR EMERGENCY RALLY IN SAN FRANCISCO TONIGHT TO PROTEST GEORGE ZIMMERMAN VERDICTNot sleeping well I see. Ask your mom to heat up some milk, and give you a cookie.
skullkrusher: ObnoxiousLonghorn: AgentPothead: And yet he'll be found guilty in a civil case for causing Martin's death. Funny how that works.Pretty sure they can't take that course of action. Not Guilty.OJ wouldn't have to be stealing his own sports memorabilia if this were true
TsuZi: great_tigers: Lost in all of this I think we see a devastated Zimmerman, people reacting to a judgement of violence with more violence and the fact that we still have a young man who lost his life too early.Favorited, and amen.
EvilRacistNaziFascist: I just hope she does a memorial twerk
slayer199: Treygreen13: And yet he'll be found guilty in a civil case for causing Martin's death. Funny how that works.That doesn't mean much as there are different requirements for affirmative verdict between a criminal and civil case.Criminal case - Beyond a reasonable doubt (99%)Civil case - Preponderance of the evidence (or 51%)
doyner: but he DI initiate the confrontation
dascott: The real tragedy is a guilty verdict would have brought Trayvon back from the dead.
Kevin72: Can you understand that he was scared crazy by the guy that kept following him? He was just 17.
daRog: doyner: but he DI initiate the confrontationGo home autocorrect. You're drunk.
arentol: Handy to know that in Florida you can murder anyone you like just by making sure they get a few licks in on you before you pull your gun and shoot them.The Prosecution should have gone for Assault with a Deadly Weapon in addition to Murder in this case. That would have brought in a section of Florida law that makes it clear that you can't claim self defense if you initiate a confrontation while armed. So then if the jury felt he was guilty of the assault charge they would also have to get him for murder as well.Oh well, he will be farked in the civil case and his life is ruined now anyway. Still a HELL of a lot better off than Trayvon Martin, but at least he won't get a pass to an easy life.
ObnoxiousLonghorn: skullkrusher: ObnoxiousLonghorn: AgentPothead: And yet he'll be found guilty in a civil case for causing Martin's death. Funny how that works.Pretty sure they can't take that course of action. Not Guilty.OJ wouldn't have to be stealing his own sports memorabilia if this were trueOJ was not in a self-defense case.
cretinbob: Yeah, that's why O'Mara is saying he's going to be Zimmerman's lawyer in any civil action.SYG was never invoked. If it had, then you'd be correct. Zimmerman would have had to testify if SYG was invoked and he would have hung himself.
Peki: There are many ways to start a fight without throwing the first punch.
daRog: lantawa: F that....he'll be just fat.FTFY
great_tigers: TsuZi: great_tigers: Lost in all of this I think we see a devastated Zimmerman, people reacting to a judgement of violence with more violence and the fact that we still have a young man who lost his life too early.Favorited, and amen.A favorited? By a former yooper? Well I am homered eh.
ventrman: The system worked just like it should have.
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