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(USA Today)   You think your telephone fees and charges are outrageous? Check out what Verizon is charging the NSA to spy on you   ( divider line
    More: Interesting, NSA, Verizon, U.S. Cellular, Christopher Soghoian, profit center, intelligence assessment, Perkins Coie, fees  
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12124 clicks; posted to Main » on 11 Jul 2013 at 7:33 AM (4 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2013-07-11 04:43:58 AM  
4 votes:
Subby, technically... that's still charging ME.

/unless the CIA is sharing a cut of their drug money to cover it
2013-07-11 07:35:13 AM  
2 votes:
What  subby is trying to say is: NSA charges us to spy on us.
2013-07-11 01:04:28 PM  
1 vote:

revrendjim: Law enforcement has had the ability to tap your phone for as long as telephones have existed. To read some of the hysterical comments here you would think that no one knew this before Snowden's big reveal. Even worse, people seem to be assuming that because they can tap your phone, then they must be listening to everybody's phone calls, even though that is mathematically impossible (virtually the entire population would have to be employed in the sole task of listening to each other's phone calls).

Do you make phone calls to known Al-Qaeda operatives in Yemen or Pakistan? If so, there is a good chance that the government is listening to your phone calls. This is a good thing. I want them to do that. Apparently many of the posters here see this as an egregious violation of the terrorist's constitutional rights and want the government to respect their privacy. You are entitled to your opinion, but then don't complain when the government fails to stop the next terrorist attack.

This business of collecting meta-data is a separate issue, and I don't know if that is justifiable. Eventually the courts will have to decide if that type of information has fourth amendment protection. But keep in mind, that is the same kind of information your email provider has been selling to marketers for years.

And so, because you used the term Al-Qaeda in your post and the NSA's virtual ears just perked up, you have absolutely no problem with them tapping your phone and listing in to everything you say.

And in the future when the US Govt. du Jour decides that posters on FARK are the real current enemy of the state (see: Nixon Years) you have no problem with them tapping your phone?

You are the type of person who is going to destroy your country.  The "terrorists" just have to sit back and let your fear do it for them.
2013-07-11 12:59:29 PM  
1 vote:

imontheinternet: Verizon is far and away the worst telecommunications company.  They charge people like they have a monopoly when they have about a dozen competitors.  It's a wonder anybody stays with them.


I recently bought a winter home in AZ (I'm Canadian.  Shocker I know).  I needed a phone for the alarm company so I went to Verizon.  After about 30 minutes of paperwork and BS they tell me they can't sell me a phone line because they can't verify my identity.  "What would they need" I enquired.  A valid US Passport and/or US driver's license. "How about a Canadian Passport" I asked.  Sorry... that isn't good enough.

So I asked them if they really meant that to get their crappy $20 a month phone service that I would have to quit my job in Canada, apply for US citizenship, take the exam, pass, renounce my Canadian Citizenship (giving up my excellent and free healthcare) get a drivers licence and a passport and then re-apply for a $20 a month phone service?

And the guy on the other end of the call said....

wait for it...

"If you want a Verizon phone, yes".

Cox had me hooked up in less than a hour.
2013-07-11 11:20:39 AM  
1 vote:
I wonder if you can somehow use this information as a tax deduction?I mean if Rmoney can deduct $70K for a horse, I should be able to deduct under the Government Sponsored Surveillance Tax Credit®
2013-07-11 09:03:30 AM  
1 vote:
So, GOP.  Here's a great opportunity for you to slash the budget.  Whaddaya say?
2013-07-11 08:44:40 AM  
1 vote:
Great! Ultimately I'm paying to have myself spied on.
2013-07-11 07:59:47 AM  
1 vote:
ATT: 325 + 10/day = 625 per monthish
Verizon: 775 first month, 500 each month after

Bottom line: it's cheaper to spy on an ATT customer in the short-hand, but more expensive in the long-run.

/I am so using this question next year with my Algebra students
2013-07-11 07:43:27 AM  
1 vote:

loser0: How about we cut out the middleman, and I pay Verizon directly to NOT let anyone wiretap me?

Or..How'bout they pay me $775/mo directly and I let them wiretap me? That would be some nice beer money right there.
2013-07-11 07:37:37 AM  
1 vote:
Land of the fees
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