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(KNBC 4 Los Angeles)   More than a dozen hurt in Simi Valley, CA fireworks explosion   ( nbclosangeles.com) divider line
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2013-07-05 03:30:25 AM  
3 votes:
This was about 15 miles away from me.

Uncle used to work for a fireworks company, and when I was 17 I was allowed to sit on the 1st base line while the mortars went off from the 3rd base and outfield. The rest of the crowd was a football field away. We had three batteries explode lit by hand, but fortunately no injuries. A shell landed about 3 feet away from where I was sitting.

/there really isn't a safe distance when it come to fireworks. It's a (precariously) controlled explosion.
2013-07-05 03:01:21 AM  
3 votes:
One of the mortar tubes exploded, which in turn knocked one of the mortar batteries on its side, causing mortars to be shot out on a horizontal angle towards the crowd who were across the street at a "safe distance."

/witnessed the chaos first hand
2013-07-05 02:27:24 AM  
3 votes:
In other news, you drunken idiot of a neighbor is still annoyed at the local fireworks restrictions.

Seriously, best of luck to everyone involved. Fireworks are scary, even in the right hands.
2013-07-05 10:19:55 AM  
2 votes:
My dad used to operate the fireworks stands for the local optimist club.  I remember large large quantities of fireworks at my disposal.  I mixed, I matched, I cut them open and combined them at the tender age of 8.  I always knew they would burn me badly or even kill me.  This was demonstrated by a really old 8mm safety film that we watched.  The only injuries I ever acquired over the years were some burns.  I still have all my fingers and am always going to criticize people who think only professionals are competent to set off fireworks.  What a crock.  Up until they passed the laws that would make me a terrorist for doing it I made my own shells.  It was a safe hobby because I was safe.  I'm really sorry some of you are frightened by them but don't expect those of us who enjoy them to give you any slack.
2013-07-05 03:50:46 AM  
2 votes:
Firework displays and air shows, good luck you patriotic attendees, you should know the risks by now.
2013-07-05 03:09:16 AM  
2 votes:

thisdaydreamer: Seriously, best of luck to everyone involved. Fireworks are scary, even in the right hands.

I agree. That stuff can be very dangerous even when the person handling them is fully qualified to do so. But shiat happens and the bystanders should know that stuff that goes boom far away from them could also go boom really close to them. There is no assumption of safety when watching pyrotechnics  that I know of.
2013-07-05 12:50:52 PM  
1 vote:
I was right up front for the show last night. That was some scary stuff. My friends stepson was one of the four critically injured and was taken to Los Robles MC with 3rd degree burns. Please keep him and his family in your thoughts.
2013-07-05 11:57:43 AM  
1 vote:

thisdaydreamer: Fireworks are scary, even in the right hands.

Yeah, until that right hand gets blown off.
2013-07-05 10:33:13 AM  
1 vote:

stainedglassdoll: That was seriously the craziest and most terrifying (but kind of awesome) fireworks show I've ever seen.  Think of a giant fireworks show, then imagine 6 of them in a big circle less than a half mile in diameter and hundreds/thousands of people in the middle.  Also, they're all being lit by amateurs.  We saw several explode on the ground, near people (and us), and no one seemed to be bothered.  I was covered in firework ash (basically little bits of cardboard) by the end of it.

During the shows my uncle worked that I mentioned in a previous post, they would always make one or two mortars a low-burst, so it would blow at about 10-20 feet off the ground. It's the blast for the crew, because it is SUCH a rush to be a part of that (the only thing approaching is the adrenaline rush from roller coasters, or sky diving, or something like that). Once the shell has been launched, the biggest direct dangers are impact (some of those are 12" wide) and burns, but we're not necessarily talking mass casualties. It's like having a firecracker in your hand; if you close your hand, you'll blow it off, but if you leave your hand open, the injuries aren't so bad. Having the shells explode inside the mortar? Now you're talking a scale that isn't much different from a roadside bomber/terrorist attack (it's not that much different from a pressure cooker).

The other (and far larger) danger with uncontrolled shells going off like that? It's that they may set off the REST of the fireworks show. This is hands-down the nightmare scenario for any crew, because at that point, the only option is to GTFO and hope no one gets hurt. As I said, we never had any injuries, but there were definitely uncontrolled expolosions. I'm not sure there's a show that goes off without one.

/fun part is learning to spot those on the TV shows
2013-07-05 10:05:15 AM  
1 vote:
There's a lot to be said for fireworks displays like Thunder Over Louisville where the launchers are located on barges and bridges thousands of feet from most spectators.

/around 56,000 shells were shot at this year's Thunder...
2013-07-05 10:04:15 AM  
1 vote:
My daughter is hypersensitive to the sound and we've had to forego fireworks after several years of "bad experiences" at shows.  This year, we thought we'd found a location that was far enough away, yet offered a decent view of the distant display  It was a great stretch of greenbelt and we pretty much had the lawn to ourselves.  Less than an hour before the show, some yahoos at a house near the greenbelt began to intermittently set off some bottle rockets from their roof, which startled my daughter.  (No, in fact, you just can't win).  We almost moved, but it was 15 minutes 'til the real show, and I figured this brain trust would hold off their own fireworks during the show.  It got quiet, and I could see that these guys had taken a break and were peeing off the edge of the roof, doing those things that guys who have drunk all day will do: teasing each other by pretending to "push" one another off the roof, peeing at each other's feet, peeing higher up the pitched roof to watch it run down toward a buddy, etc...  (Darwin came to mind).  They finished, without incident, but on their way back to their seats, they knocked over their cooler and beers rolled down the roof. Some went over the side, some got caught by the rain gutter.  There was some language, then some laughter as the perp went to the edge and plucked the beers out of the rain gutter, almost falling off in the process. (Darwin you are a tease).  Anyhow, 9pm, waiting for the show to begin and the yahoos began shouting.  Don't know what happened, but a roman candle was lit and I assumed that they dropped it.  It was shooting stars, along the roof as it rolled, spun, as they kicked, stomped, yelled.  This all happened within 2 seconds off my looking back. And then one of the guys stepped right off the roof and just cartwheeled over.  Did not even see a hand go out and he disappeared from view.  It was one story, but I would assume a patio was below.  Anyhow, things got real quiet real fast, then more shouting, women's voices, screams...  Then the real show began.  Almost 20 minutes later, near the end of the show, I looked back again and saw the lights of a firetruck and an ambulance, so I know some damage was done.  Waiting for the paper to see if the guy is okay/possible fark link/Darwin won.
2013-07-05 09:19:34 AM  
1 vote:

thisdaydreamer: In other news, you drunken idiot of a neighbor is still annoyed at the local fireworks restrictions.

Not everyone who uses fireworks is a drunken idiot.

Unfortunately, the idiots often ruin it for everybody. I live in CA and they only allow lame "safe and sane" fireworks, and that's only if your city allows it (many don't.) We would have to drive to another state if we wanted our kids to legally have a real fireworks experience like our parents used to have.

I know, fire danger and all, but it's still lame.
2013-07-05 09:14:24 AM  
1 vote:

MadAzza: Revek: thisdaydreamer: In other news, you drunken idiot of a neighbor is still annoyed at the local fireworks restrictions.

Seriously, best of luck to everyone involved. Fireworks are scary, even in the right hands.

Are you a little biatch.... YES you are!!!

Why the fark is everyone (OK, just a couple of idiots) jumping on that guy? And how do you macho, fearless he-men type with only six or seven fingers?

Hopefully, Revek's, WhoopAssWayne's, and Medic Zero's hands are still functioning so that they can start jerkin' each other off stat.

If not, they'll just have to get together and settle for f*ckin' and suckin'. NTTAWWT.

But really, take it down a notch, ladies.
2013-07-05 06:25:01 AM  
1 vote:
Not being really close to the fireworks isn't the worst. If they're doing it right, the show will be up high enough you can see them from a ways out. And then when the shiat starts to fly you are out of range.
2013-07-05 04:30:24 AM  
1 vote:

sobriquet by any other name: WHO CARES28 people were hurt by unleashing lethal forces they couldn't predict? Come one, we've got hundreds of millions, who cares about a measly 28 people somewhere? These... people.. are barely human. A speck in the microscope. We should set these things off more often, hell, we should give teachers fireworks to help kids figure out class has started.

/this is now a gun thread

Their family, friends & loved ones care & that's what matters most. And no, this is not a gun thread.
2013-07-05 03:54:55 AM  
1 vote:
There are probably more hurt who self evacuated and took themselves to the hospital or home for treatment.  But it appeared quite chaotic for awhile on the TV reports and the videos taken on scene shows it could have turned out much worse.  Chances are they are going to move people further back next year after they find out what went wrong.
2013-07-05 03:48:09 AM  
1 vote:
news flash!
exploding things explode
2013-07-05 03:17:47 AM  
1 vote:
Slimy Valley, huh?

I am totally not surprised.

Hope everyone who was there is okay, Xexi and family.
2013-07-05 02:58:30 AM  
1 vote:
Hope those who are hurt end up good.
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