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(CBS News)   Going the 200 mile distance in an ultramarathon may be healthier than stopping after 100 miles. This is great news for all five people who like to run non-stop for three straight days   ( cbsnews.com) divider line
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2013-06-29 11:28:54 AM  
3 votes:
They found out that at the end of the race, the Tor des Geants runners had less muscle fatigues and soreness compared to their counterparts who had run half the distance.

Perhaps the people who stopped intended to stop and were not as fit as the counterparts who trained for 200. Just a thought.
2013-06-30 03:35:03 AM  
2 votes:
Oh, let me say it in a language Fark can understand:

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2013-06-30 03:27:56 AM  
2 votes:
Runners are funny. And by funny, I mean idiots.

"Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

Doing extensive physical activity does NOTHING to improve your health. It's just a pissing contest and stupid "willpower" demonstrations.

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2013-06-29 11:34:57 AM  
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jake3988: They found out that at the end of the race, the Tor des Geants runners had less muscle fatigues and soreness compared to their counterparts who had run half the distance.

Perhaps the people who stopped intended to stop and were not as fit as the counterparts who trained for 200. Just a thought.

Even running 100 miles requires you to be so freakishly fit that I doubt that going up to 200 actually makes much difference.
2013-06-30 08:01:19 PM  
1 vote:

Orgasmatron138: I like mixing different types of cadio rather than sticking to one thing for too long.  Being able to run a few miles is (to me) satisfying, but I notice my explosive speed and heavy exercise cardio suffers if I jog long distance.

My best overall cardio exercise is interval cardio.  I set two speeds on the treadmill, jog and sprint.  I jog for two minutes, and sprint for 30 seconds.  I repeat as many times as I can.  My best is 8 rotations (twenty minutes).  I'd like to be able to do it for a half an hour.

If you are ever in a rush you should try a tabata.

Set the treadmill incline to 12 and the pace for 30 sec slower then your best 5k time. After it is up to speed and inclination you run for 20 sec then put your feet to the side for 10 sec. Repeat 8 times. It is killer.
2013-06-30 11:34:15 AM  
1 vote:
Long distance hikers routinely hike half marathons on the Appalachian Trail and they do it with 20 to 30 pounds on their backs over rugged mountain terrain.

/Yes, I've done this myself.
//13.1 doesn't impress me much.
///Why would anyone want to run on hard surfaces?
2013-06-30 11:11:36 AM  
1 vote:

rocky_howard: Carth: Marathoner, ultrarunner and Ironman Alex laughs at your puny sprinters.

The guy in the second picture is bigger and more ripped that this dude, so the "puny" comment is LOLtastic at best.

And second, the guy's a freak of nature, yay! Also notice he's an iron-man too. Do you think he got that body by marathoning?

So explain to me how running 40+ kilometers in a single instance is actually beneficial for your health and not a stupid pissing contest. Oh wait, you can't because that's what it is, a stupid pissing contest. And no, don't tell me that such and such is healthy and ran a marathon. That's irrelevant. That person didn't get healthy by running marathons.

The only thing a marathon or ultrarun does for you is boost your ego, nothing more. The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.

He is also a competitive powerlifter and a top proponent that endurance athletes don't need to be thin rails. Your original image and insinuation that marathoners can't be healthy and be in great shape was just stupid and provably wrong.  Yes, he is also an ironman... so a marathon is a useless pissing match but a 3.8k swim, 180k bike ride and 42k run is a good way to get in shape? That doesn't make much sense. Are you arguing that all endurance athletes are hurting themselves or just runners?

Are you trying to say elite runners (sub 2:20 marathon) are sacrificing their physical health to run? Of course they are. They're professional athletes; just like professional NFL, NHL etc players they are beating up their body to make a living. Professional sports are generally bad for your health. 

Are you trying to argue that the average person who goes out and does a marathon in 4-5+ hours is making a stupid decision? Well that is demonstrably false  as studies show most people in these groups go from limited physical activities and the training to run a marathon makes them healthier than when they started.

Maybe you mean the recreational runner who does a marathon or two a year in 3 hours is the one hurting themselves? Well again we know that people who run regularly 20-30mpw in their 30s and 40s are have less knee and joint problems when they get older so distance running again seems to be a pretty good decision.

So whether your original point was that marathoners need to be stick thin rails (they don't) or are just making themselves unhealthy (they aren't) you're wrong.
2013-06-30 08:04:54 AM  
1 vote:

rocky_howard: "Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

The distance runners you posted pictures of are marathoners.  I've run every footrace from the 100m sprint to the Run Across Georgia and I have to say that the marathon is the biatch of the bunch.  It is such a long race to run so fast and at such a high heart rate. To give you an idea, after my last marathon it took me almost two weeks before I could get back into my usual running routine.  After the last 100 miler I was back on my feet and running within a couple of days.

And yeah, ultrarunners typically look a little different than marathoners.
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2013-06-29 10:51:39 PM  
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Badwater Ultramarathon - 135 miles course in Death Valley, temps up to 130F, start at 282' below sea-level and finish at 8,360'. IF you finish in 48 hours or less you get this:

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Oh, and a T-shirt and a "goodie" bag.
2013-06-29 07:57:06 PM  
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This is suspiciously correlation = causation to me. Maybe the people who run the longer marathon do so because they can, possibly being genetically predisposed to filtering lactic acid out of their system more efficiently than the people who decide they can only do the shorter marathon?
2013-06-29 06:00:39 PM  
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2013-06-29 02:03:45 PM  
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HotIgneous Intruder: Ultra stupid, no matter how you stack it.

Any idiot can run a marathon but it takes a special kind of idiot to run an ultra.

Carth: Also, don't most people walk between 3-4 mph?

Most ultra runners use a run/walk strategy instead of trying to run the full distance and on top of that you spend some time pissing/crapping/puking, sitting so you can change your shoes/socks, apply anti-chafing goo and various things like that that drag your overall average pace down.
2013-06-29 01:01:34 PM  
1 vote:
FTA: "The reason why the 200-mile runners weren't as fatigued as the 100-mile group may be due to pacing. The Tor des Geants runners averaged 3.4 miles per hour during their course, while the 100-mile runners took a faster 4.5 miles per hour pace."

I thought dropping below 4 MPH for too long bought you a ticket on The Long Walk.
2013-06-29 12:25:43 PM  
1 vote:
This makes sense in a way in relation to human evolution.

humans are as a species capable of long distance hunting...persistence hunting.  The average person can (in reasonable shape) move up to 30 miles a day.  Only wolves do that aside from us and they do it over much larger territories.  A lot of it has to do with our high muscle density.  So a slower pace (3.5 mph) vs over 4mph might make a huge difference in muscle strain and impact on bones and the like.  Of course training for a 200 mile...brisk walk is also tough and likely their bone density is higher as well from the constant impacts.

So yeah article is good and reveals a little bit more of what our bodies are capable of with training.  Not that its healthy to do that all the time...but given the right stress populations of humans have had and still have the ability to move long distances in fairly short periods of time.  This knowledge can help with migration predictions for archaeologists.  Maybe now they can work out the average speed in a better way.

/more useless information clogging my brain.
//back to listening to In Flames
2013-06-29 12:17:50 PM  
1 vote:
My brother is preparing for a 100K race, and that seems like more than enough.

/crazy farker
//my family is two fit brothers bookended by two fatass brothers
///I am one of the bookends
2013-06-29 12:10:14 PM  
1 vote:
The best way to run an ultramarathon is to cruise the route at 5 m.p.h. in the back of an air-conditioned limo, sipping martinis and occasionally getting out to walk or jog for a block or so, to stretch the legs and clear the head.

/added to bucket list
2013-06-29 11:39:57 AM  
1 vote:
Ultra stupid, no matter how you stack it.
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