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2013-06-18 01:24:41 PM  
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Can you ever just SHUT THE FARK UP about 3D printers, and you're anti-space crusade... Do you have to farking interject in every god damn farking conversation, shiat all over it before one even starts, or just be so god damn farking annoying...

2013-06-19 07:10:23 AM  
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I used to get angry at Quantum Apostrophe too.  These days though, I just pity him.  To be able to devote so much time to being an angry cynic is just incredibly sad.  Think about how shiatty the world appears to him.  These outbursts for attention and confrontation are probably the only thing that keeps him from slitting his wrists.
2013-06-18 06:28:54 PM  
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Quantum Apostrophe: WippitGuud: For extra credit, compare the cost-per-seat of Soyuz to the cost-per-seat when the DragonRider variant of DragonX is operational.

OK, as soon as you tell me why we need this. Without resorting to circular reasoning, and maybe answering these simple questions:

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How does going to point A help anything at all?

Assume Dragon X is free. Now what?

PS: "d" is the Moon. Let that sink in for a while.

way south: People quickly realize that the lack of expansion means the loss of opportunity and growth.

That has only been the social model for a few centuries. It will change. It will have to. We can live perfectly happy lives without the constant goading of cancerous growth for growth's sake. Children eventually stop growing. So will we. Children also eventually die. So will the human race.

Unless you want to learn how matter becomes life and how to monkey with that? Hm?

Nations that don't explore are doomed.

That makes no sense whatsoever, but the usual doom and gloom and darkly gothic romantic end-of-the-world angst is noted.

Myria: way south: My belief is that it serves our social need to explore.
Nations that don't explore are doomed. People quickly realize that the lack of expansion means the loss of opportunity and growth. They stop investing and creating, preparing for the inevitable collapse or moving to greener pastures.

Here's the problem: we're not going anywhere for the next hundred years, if ever.  We as humans need to learn to deal with this reality -- failure to adapt will break us.

No one wants to confront that reality. This space nonsense is the last gasp of our current social paradigm. Like the Pyramids, this will stand as a monument to ego.

It will also be completely ignored by future generations, or at best just be part of the background while the human race makes new arrangements right here.

No one is going anywhere. It's over. Finished. The limits of materials and energy sources make it so. No amount of ...

Man, you are fixated. I do somewhat agree with you that manned space ATM won't give us much better chances to survive on other planets (although the spin-off products are beneficial), and that it is foolish of us to try to plan out a trip to other star systems right now, your overreaching, absolute, finalistic views are more ridiculous than those you perceive 'space nutters'. Who knows what kind of technology we will develop, even only in the next millennium? Scientists are already exploring the fringes of possibility of teleportation, and, as I'm sure you know, advances in life-extension/preservation are going on right now. Some day, almost certainly, we will be able to at least set up some sort of base or colony outside of Earth, and to assume otherwise is short-sighted.

In regards to your points about human kind not existing billions of years in the future, so what? Technically the human race won't likely exist, but some evolution of us, or maybe other terrestrial intelligent life will probably be present, so that point is essentially invalid.

And, what exactly, are the limits of energy and materials that will prevent our extraterrestrial expansion? Look at how far we have come only in the last century in these regards. More supermaterials are being developed, and fusion is a potentially a new source that will probably be used by the end of the century, at the most.
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