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2013-06-15 03:30:26 AM  
3 votes:
Like barbecue, fried food, caviar, truffles, lobster and probably thousands of other food items that were created by and for the lower class?
It's like modern art, it just takes the right random douche to praise it for it to suddenly be valuable and classy.
2013-06-15 08:49:26 AM  
2 votes:

Fromageball: My mom says that about sardines and I don't get it. What is it about being 'bait' that makes it unappealing?

I guess it's some kind of manly "I only eat predator fish HUR-HURRR!" kinda thing.

Anyway, calling any fish "garbage" is quickly becoming a luxury, if you want to actually eat fish. Unless there's some global treaty with teeth, and a fleet of enforcement ships with large guns, we're probably gonna eat ourselves out of all the "good" fish in maybe 20 years. After that, it's catfish, tilapia and carp, unless someone can re-establish a viable tuna population.
2013-06-15 11:11:46 AM  
1 vote:
Lobster is trash. Nothing new.
2013-06-15 11:05:45 AM  
1 vote:
Tilapia has been used in aquaculture since the Pharaohs.  It's a good fish that doesn't mind crowding and grows to market size fast.  It's also becoming the go-to fish stock for aquaponic systems (combined aquaculture/hydroponic systems that use effluent from the fish to fertilize the plants, which act as a biofilter).  There are assorted places that farm Tilapia around here, so I almost fell out of my chair when the better half brought some home from the store at 6.99 a pound.  I'm considering building a hobby rig in the backyard just on financial principle.  I've seen a couple prototype rigs for home/indoor use, but it's a while before it becomes something bigger than a hobbyist niche (one small home unit here, this site sells PnP bigger backyard units for examples).

Look at crowding tolerant fish becoming a bigger share of food offerings, especially in places pushing the localivore philosophy.  It's a logical extension of the rooftop herb and lettuce gardens that have been the recent trend in restaurants.  There are some startups burning money attempting racetrack culture of marine species such as Mahi, but for the most part if you aren't on the coast it will be limited to freshwater species for the near future.
2013-06-15 10:37:55 AM  
1 vote:
Lobster was originally considered a trash seafood until it became a delicacy, and "Chilean sea bass" is the Patagonian toothfish and even for a fish it's  ugly as fark.
2013-06-15 10:21:27 AM  
1 vote:
As others have noted, hardly new.  My father hates lobster because he grew up in the Depression and lobster is what you ate if you were poor.  Giant undersea cockroaches- nobody not half starving is going to eat them.

I love monkfish and a decent tilapia is pretty good.  These used to be called bait.
2013-06-15 07:58:12 AM  
1 vote:

HotWingAgenda: MaudlinMutantMollusk: they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom

This.  Only an idiot would eat a filter feeder or carrion eater.

I guess you don't eat lobster, crab, catfish or tilapia, then, right?

And the whole "they vacuum up all the pollutants that sink to the bottom" is totally false. The age and diet of a fish determines what pollutants they have. The older the fish and the higher on the food chain, the more polluted it is. Common carp can get old, which makes them bad, but they eat a pretty pollutant-free diet (low numbers of fish, most insects and crustaceans). Asian carp are fast growing and eat zooplankton, which makes them very low in contaminants. Asian carp are likely very high in omega 3 and vitamin D as well, due to their diet (just a guess, but no source or anything).

Same reason sardines are super low in contaminants -- fast growing, low food chain fish are safer to eat for both the environment and yourself.
2013-06-15 05:20:47 AM  
1 vote:
I rarely eat fish, not that I don't like it but I'll always get a steak instead or something else beefy if available.
If you put any fish in front of me I wouldn't have a clue what it was, by look or taste.
Having said that, if you cook up a fish and serve it to me I will either like it or not. The name or type of fish is irrelevant to me.
2013-06-15 04:24:26 AM  
1 vote:

Cyno01: Isnt that whats been going on for the past half century? Some big pretty fish gets overfished so they move onto something smaller and uglier and market the hell out of it, then that gets overfished....

Tuna, thats a good looking fish. Anglerfish? Patagonian toothfish? Not so much... tasty though.

The biggest problem is the fish no one ever hears about that are gathered to feed livestock and household pets.  Go ahead and look up a little fish called menhaden sometime.  People don't eat it, because it's mostly inedible.  It's name is from an American Indian word for fertilizer.  But if you grind it up, you can put it in any kind of animal feed.  The breakthrough was when commercial fishers started using helicopters to spot the shadow of large schools of it, and then lead the boats over with giant nets to grab the entire school at once.  It was pushed to the brink of extinction because of that, which in turn put the squeeze on its natural predators, tuna.  Also, menhaden were important to prevent red tide poisoning.
2013-06-15 04:23:20 AM  
1 vote:

TomD9938: I liked smoked carp as a kid.

Then, after having not had it since around aged 10, had it again around age 16.

That time I vomited it all back up in the same slick that it went down in and havent had it since.

Still love a decent smoked salmon though.

The fish you had at 16 had gone bad or was close to it. I do the same thing with any slightly off protein based food. Fish, unlike the animals that we evolved to eat in partially rotten states, breaks down really fast and becomes inedible/boarder line very quickly (hours or less).  Luckily, I have a pretty sensitive nose, so it has to be cooked with plenty of spices to hide the smell for me to get hit with it.

\part of the reason I buy my familie's food and cook it
\\yes, even I can eat nearly rotten mammalian or avian meat if it is prepared to cover the taste
\\the pooping is like the slashies though: UNCONTROLLABLE!
2013-06-15 03:54:26 AM  
1 vote:
Fishing out the ocean has caused this. Tilapia was a trash fish in the 50s and 60s. Now it's considered decent/healthy dining from IHop to Sushi restaurants.
2013-06-15 03:29:02 AM  
1 vote:
I was with them right up until the Salmon heads.

/No thanks, I'll just puke in this bag over here.
2013-06-15 03:17:36 AM  
1 vote:

Philbb: I'm not sure that I understand, are we supposed to eat fish that have been used as bait for several generations?

Why not, if it tastes good and won't give you cancer?  People have used bread for bait just as long.
2013-06-15 03:01:30 AM  
1 vote:
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