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(Fox News)   In the 1760s, British soldiers could roam the countryside and search American homes at will, which is why Obama is a king who needs to be overthrown today. Or something. Hey, a judge wrote it so it's got to be true   ( foxnews.com) divider line
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1408 clicks; posted to Politics » on 14 Jun 2013 at 8:26 AM (5 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2013-06-14 08:43:31 AM  
2 votes:
I really don't get what the big deal is, the NSA is basically backing up the meta data the ISP and other service providers collect, but require a warrant to search it. They are also looking at foreign users of facebook, google+, and the 12 people that still use myspace, and I really don't think their should be an expectation to privacy for information on sites that are designed to help you whore yourself out to the rest of the world.

Now when the feds show up at my house and announce a random decency and morality inspection, and then force me into the back of a van over my "anime" collection then I'll be ready to revolt.

/brb doorbell...
2013-06-14 08:35:05 AM  
2 votes:
Snowden Crash.
2013-06-14 10:35:12 AM  
1 vote:

rubi_con_man: Interesting side fact: The puritans that founded Boston wanted laws that outlawed curtains and shutters so that people could spy on each other through their windows...

2013-06-14 09:15:36 AM  
1 vote:
Do you want the King of England to show up and start pushing you around?
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Huh? DO YA?!?!??!
2013-06-14 09:15:28 AM  
1 vote:

WTF Indeed: sendtodave: Do you feel that this program is in line with American ideals?

 I believe this program is in line with American law.

Americans ideals, American law, same thing, I guess.
2013-06-14 09:15:00 AM  
1 vote:
What someone going around the countryside searching homes at will might look like:

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2013-06-14 09:14:24 AM  
1 vote:

Dr Dreidel: robotpirateninja: Read the damn EULA or your ToS, how can you expect privacy when you signed a big long contract giving it up?

Much (or some) of that is unenforceable. They have their lawyers draw up the paperwork as best they can, but it's not bulletproof by a long shot (even outside the EU). Like the waiver you sign before skiing or skydiving, it's meant to make you think you've signed away your rights, when in actuality, you can't sign all of them away, ever.

Some people seem to have their weird impression that a EULA can do anything, like they would be surprised if you couldn't enforce terms of a EULA where the user agreed that the company could shoot them in the head point blank with a shotgun in case they ever got fed up with someone that called user support with the same stupid questions over and over.

/which is a shame really, some days
2013-06-14 09:13:54 AM  
1 vote:

roddack: sendtodave: See? Nothing in there about phone records or electronic correspondence.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people

But, you see, a right to privacy in electronic correspondence isn't a right retained by the people, because Google.
2013-06-14 09:12:00 AM  
1 vote:
Know who else could search American homes at will?

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Nihil novi sub sole.
2013-06-14 09:10:02 AM  
1 vote:
I'm having a hard time keeping all this stuff straight. Now, am I suppose to be mad at Fartbongo because he controls Verizon? Am I suppose to applaud Snowden because he's kinda like a cop? Or is he a bad guy because he used to work for the government and 'the troops' are the only Government employees that matter? If the consumers clicked 'I agree" or signed away their rights in a service agreement, does it matter that the government wants to look at my personal information... as opposed to private corporation data mining and selling it? Boehner says Snowden is a traitor, so I'm pretty torn. Hopefully, this Fox News device can tell me how a True American™ needs to feel about all this.
2013-06-14 08:59:59 AM  
1 vote:
Snowden is so proud to be American, he committed treason and then ran to the Chinese for safety.
2013-06-14 08:54:44 AM  
1 vote:

AliceBToklasLives: As a card-carrying liberal, I'm still looking for the derp in TFA.  Maybe since it's early, but da judge sounded reasonable to me.

The analogy makes sense:

The modern-day British soldiers -- our federal agents -- are not going from house to house; they are going from phone to phone and from computer to computer, enabling them to penetrate every aspect of our lives.

Do you think they liked my dick pics?  I always fluff before I walk through the body scanner at the airport, so that's covered.
2013-06-14 08:47:45 AM  
1 vote:

Satanic_Hamster: I'm assuming, of course, he was just as offended by these practices in the 2000's, right.

sendtodave: See? Nothing in there about phone records or electronic correspondence.

Records that are in the hand of a 3rd party and records that the third party is free to (and regularly does) sell off to the highest bidder.

See? As long as there's corporate collusion to get around the Fourth Amendment, it's fine. because after all, gigantic multi-national corporations are your friends. Like with health insurance and worker's rights.
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