dittybopper: and at that age, their expected number of lives left is about 20
phalamir: There is no "meant to". Evolution doesn't work like that. There is no conscious master plan with the endpoint predetermined. Chance coupled with environmental pressure leads to changes - as long as they lead to better survival, that makes them good. Humans essentially pop out early fetuses compared to other animals, and especially other primates. We have to, or we would all have 5-foot wide pelvises to allow our noggins to fit down the vagina (go measure up a 1st grader; now do the engineering to get that out of a woman, paying special attention to the pelvis). Absurdly helpless young - who develop at an even more absurd rate (which is all actually good, because our brains get to develop like no other as a result) - means a very high investment for the mother. If a few women started living even a few years longer without the chance of themselves bearing (and thus having to be doing all the investment themselves), their daughters are going to have a better chance of getting a child to farking age, because the investment is being shared. That would make the chance of that trait being passed skyrocket. On the other hand, men only farking girls too young to buy beer isn't going to do anything to women's fertility. There is no advantage for a woman to stop pumping out eggs at 50 versus keeping going, so there would be no selection bias. Actually, stopping at 50 would be dumb under this guy's scenario. Women should be hitting menopause at 25 or so, since they wouldn't breed according to him. 50-odd says that the age of the women hitting menopause is important, not the age of the women getting hit on in kindergarten.
RobSeace: dittybopper: and at that age, their expected number of lives left is about 20What, did they gather 20 1-UP mushrooms, or something??
fusillade762: I'M NOT CRANKY YOU'RE CRANKY!!!
meanmutton: One thing FTA that really annoyed me:Dr Maxwell Burton-Chellew, an evolutionary biologist at Oxford University, dismissed Professor Singh's theory, calling it 'plain wrong'. Dear Daily Mail: This is not a theory. This is a conjecture. There's a huge farking difference.
abhorrent1: You know, women. You want to be treated equally? How about you start by taking some farking responsibility and quit blaming men for all your woes. That would be a good start. Then we can talk about all the perks you get just for having tits.
quickdraw: think women over 50 aren't having sex?
dittybopper: RobSeace: dittybopper: and at that age, their expected number of lives left is about 20What, did they gather 20 1-UP mushrooms, or something??sed 's/lives/years'
Quantum Apostrophe: Old people having sex is like watching an old toothless cat trying to hunt.
Befuddled: FTA: Professor Rama Singh, from McMaster University in Canada, thinks the menopause was simply evolution's way of recognising that older women no longer need the ability to have children as men stop wanting to mate with them.Someone doesn't understand evolution. How would men wanting to breed with young women help the older woman spread her genes?Menopause is probably helpful in that the grandmother won't be having kids and can instead help raise her grandkids.
Quantum Apostrophe: quickdraw: think women over 50 aren't having sex?One hopes. Sex is for the young.Old people having sex is like watching an old toothless cat trying to hunt.
Lady J: Gawd when that day comes I am necking the HRT like they're smarties
meanmutton: Quantum Apostrophe: quickdraw: think women over 50 aren't having sex?One hopes. Sex is for the young.Old people having sex is like watching an old toothless cat trying to hunt.A self-described "life extension nutter" who hopes to stop having sex before 50? Now I'm just sad for future you.
pkellmey: There is a fatal flaw in the argument. It is only the 20th century that women, on average, lived past menopause. In that way, we were closer to other primates in the past. Menopause in large numbers of the population has been a fairly recent problem.
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