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2013-06-13 10:49:26 AM  
Ouch, that's sad.
 
2013-06-13 10:50:02 AM  
Took one too many bribes.
 
2013-06-13 10:50:17 AM  
I bet his family will feel crushed
 
2013-06-13 10:50:21 AM  
Gunshot to the chest? Good lord
 
2013-06-13 10:51:33 AM  

Fissile: Took one too many bribes.


Came here to say this.
 
2013-06-13 10:52:38 AM  

ole prophet: Fissile: Took one too many bribes.

Came here to say this.


Yup.
 
2013-06-13 10:52:47 AM  
Well.  That happened.
 
2013-06-13 10:52:49 AM  
All in all, he's just another brick in the wall.
 
2013-06-13 10:53:05 AM  
It isn't easy when your emotional state is demolished.  When the ceiling of your soul caves in on you and the walls of your heart crumble it is only a matter of time before the floor falls out from under your feet and you find yourself in shambles with no salvation to support you.
 
2013-06-13 10:54:44 AM  
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom


Gunshot to the chest? Good lord


Sounds more like a mafia assisted suicide.
 
2013-06-13 10:54:54 AM  
We need more of this level of accountability in America.
 
2013-06-13 10:55:33 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Gunshot to the chest? Good lord


But through the windshield first. The police just rubber-stamped the case as a suicide.

/like he did with his "inspections"
 
2013-06-13 10:56:03 AM  
Also means any other building this guy inspected needs to be reviewed as well.
 
2013-06-13 10:57:01 AM  
It may very well be likely he failed to do his job to maintain safety and that's why these people died.

It's not often you see someone who failed to do their job, which resulted in the death of others, take their own life out of grief anymore.
 
2013-06-13 10:57:12 AM  
Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

i.dailymail.co.ukView Full Size

/HOT (the pic, not this guy)
 
2013-06-13 10:58:04 AM  

ole prophet: Also means any other building this guy inspected needs to be reviewed as well.


That would be difficult if they've been torn down.
 
2013-06-13 10:59:35 AM  
So we found our scapegoat.
 
2013-06-13 11:03:04 AM  

namegoeshere: Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]
/HOT (the pic, not this guy)


This.

I wouldn't trust a guy that looks to be half-asleep to turn off a fuse box much less operate heavy equipment.
 
2013-06-13 11:06:04 AM  
That's a shame.

And it probably wasn't his fault the building went down, given the record of both the company and the worker who turned himself in. Of course, it's a speculation that the two events were connected--perhaps his suicide had nothing to do with work.

I would suggest that in the future, vulnerable buildings like the thrift shop be closed during the critical stages of demolition.

It looks like the safety measures were inadequate--I didn't see any sign of fences or scaffolding to protect pedestrians from a falling brick, let alone a falling wall. Too much laissez-faire and not enough oversight and accountability.

Thank the gods they weren't using handguns to shoot the building down.
 
2013-06-13 11:08:28 AM  

Vodka Zombie: We need more of this level of accountability in America.


"Expect someone to do the honorable thing" is a hell of a concept. And I tend to agree with you- a society where people take full responsibility for their actions is a good thing.
 
2013-06-13 11:08:32 AM  
Pre-peat.  The better headline is two links up queue.  Nuke this one and save that one.
 
2013-06-13 11:16:17 AM  

AttawaYawattA: It isn't easy when your emotional state is demolished.  When the ceiling of your soul caves in on you and the walls of your heart crumble it is only a matter of time before the floor falls out from under your feet and you find yourself in shambles with no salvation to support you.


That was pretty much my speech at my nephew's 6th grade commencement.
 
2013-06-13 11:16:52 AM  
Hmmm, Similar thread... so I'll copy and paste....


So, the real perpetrator of this disaster was a failed building inspection which should have indicated the danger in demolishing this building, but yet gave to "go ahead" to do the demolition. That inspector knew it and killed himself for it. But that wont let the machinery operator off the hook- just because he said he was stoned.

So really Pot Deaths = 0
 
2013-06-13 11:19:34 AM  

Stoker: Hmmm, Similar thread... so I'll copy and paste....

Hey, mods...here's an idea. Combine both threads. No copy/paste needed.

 
2013-06-13 11:19:46 AM  

vudukungfu: All in all, he's just another brick in the wall.


or not, as the case may be.
 
2013-06-13 11:22:27 AM  

brantgoose: I would suggest that in the future, vulnerable buildings like the thrift shop be closed during the critical stages of demolition.


Good luck. Most row businesses have apartments above the store level.

The thrift store didn't, but the also-damaged building to the rear does. So did the building on South Street whose alley collapsed two days ago, due to another building demo. (That one caused by water pooling in the post-demo excavation.
 
2013-06-13 11:26:29 AM  

Stoker: Hmmm, Similar thread... so I'll copy and paste....


So, the real perpetrator of this disaster was a failed building inspection which should have indicated the danger in demolishing this building, but yet gave to "go ahead" to do the demolition. That inspector knew it and killed himself for it. But that wont let the machinery operator off the hook- just because he said he was stoned.

So really Pot Deaths = 0


That is the way it is starting to look. But the excavator operator is still going to be the scapegoat.
 
2013-06-13 11:27:27 AM  

SBinRR: ole prophet: Fissile: Took one too many bribes.

Came here to say this.

Yup.


If only the perpetrators of: Bengazi, gulf oil spill, financial collapse, IRS scandal, fast and furious...  ... the guy to took my bike.... ...Iraq war....   .....Anthony Wiener... ... fox and friends, briebert.com....

/amidoinitrite?
 
2013-06-13 11:27:44 AM  

Fissile: Took one too many bribes.


That's a job requirement for most building inspectors. One article said there was an argument before the shot.
 
2013-06-13 11:28:44 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom


Gunshot to the chest? Good lord


Sounds more like a mafia assisted suicide.


What would the Mafia gain by assisting this suicide?
 
2013-06-13 11:29:57 AM  
Right. He committed suicide. With a shot to the chest. And left no note. But sent a text to his wife. Riiiiight.
 
2013-06-13 11:30:50 AM  
If he was running into trouble in Philadelphia, perhaps he should have considered relocating; maybe with relatives on the west coast.
 
2013-06-13 11:31:16 AM  

theotherles: What would the Mafia gain by assisting this suicide?


Because it's entirely possible that the inspector was on the take, and a Mafia assist would prevent him from talking.
 
2013-06-13 11:31:20 AM  
I wonder what was going through the heavy equipment operator's mind as he was hittin' dat blunt before his shift.

"fark the man, my job farking sucks"

or

"Hellz yeah, 'notha day in the sun!"

or whatever.  What innocuous thought was in play at the moment he made the decision that would kill six people?
 
2013-06-13 11:34:59 AM  

Gonz: Vodka Zombie: We need more of this level of accountability in America.

"Expect someone to do the honorable thing" is a hell of a concept. And I tend to agree with you- a society where people take full responsibility for their actions is a good thing.


Well, considering the Wall Street shenanigans, if we had these sorts of "honorable" people there, I'd imagine the mop and shovel and bucket industry would be booming.  Those sidewalks won't clean themselves, ya know?
 
2013-06-13 11:45:32 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: theotherles: What would the Mafia gain by assisting this suicide?

Because it's entirely possible that the inspector was on the take, and a Mafia assist would prevent him from talking.


Mafia builders say they are already highly regulated.
 
2013-06-13 11:51:47 AM  
Too bad. His death will slow down the investigation into the others who are just as responsible as he is. He should have turned informant and revealed what he knew if anything.
 
2013-06-13 12:00:09 PM  
Liked the all caps SUICIDE.
 
2013-06-13 12:02:05 PM  
Doomed or domed?

/dnrtfa
 
2013-06-13 12:05:34 PM  

namegoeshere: Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]
/HOT (the pic, not this guy)


That's the crane operator who knocked the building over onto the thrift shop next door, not the inspector.
 
2013-06-13 12:07:53 PM  

namegoeshere: Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]
/HOT (the pic, not this guy)


looks like a typical union worker to me.
 
2013-06-13 12:10:29 PM  
Apology accepted.
 
2013-06-13 12:13:50 PM  

LemSkroob: namegoeshere: Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]
/HOT (the pic, not this guy)

looks like a typical union worker to me.


tokeofthetown.comView Full Size


Soooooo, look for the union label...
 
2013-06-13 12:14:37 PM  

Stoker: Hmmm, Similar thread... so I'll copy and paste....


So, the real perpetrator of this disaster was a failed building inspection which should have indicated the danger in demolishing this building, but yet gave to "go ahead" to do the demolition. That inspector knew it and killed himself for it. But that wont let the machinery operator off the hook- just because he said he was stoned.

So really Pot Deaths = 0


Not only did he give the go ahead, he went back after people complained and reported no violations.
 
2013-06-13 12:16:27 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom


Gunshot to the chest? Good lord


Sounds more like a mafia assisted suicide.


So he fell on to some bullets?
 
2013-06-13 12:17:44 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: If he was running into trouble in Philadelphia, perhaps he should have considered relocating; maybe with relatives on the west coast.


Somuchwin.jpg
 
2013-06-13 12:18:49 PM  
self inflicted in the.....chest......rrrrrriiiiiiiiiight....
 
2013-06-13 12:21:13 PM  

Moodybastard: Random Anonymous Blackmail: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom


Gunshot to the chest? Good lord


Sounds more like a mafia assisted suicide.

So he fell on to some bullets?


Yeah.  That happens, and it's pretty embarrassing.  But, it's nowhere near as embarrassing as backing into and bumping your head on some bullets.

That happens more often than you think.
 
2013-06-13 12:24:15 PM  

buckler: namegoeshere: Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]
/HOT (the pic, not this guy)

That's the crane operator who knocked the building over onto the thrift shop next door, not the inspector.


The inspector killed himself, not the operator. This incident happened in Philadelphia.

/we are playing "Let's point out the obvious", right?
 
2013-06-13 12:24:24 PM  

offmymeds: namegoeshere: Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]
/HOT (the pic, not this guy)

This.

I wouldn't trust a guy that looks to be half-asleep to turn off a fuse box much less operate heavy equipment.


The guy inspected buildings, not drug test the operator of the crane/ball that was knocking the building down.  Technically it wasn't his fault that the crane operator was on drugs.  And even if the crane operator was not on drugs, can anyone actually say that the accident could not have happened anyway?
 
2013-06-13 12:26:16 PM  

graeth: self inflicted in the.....chest......rrrrrriiiiiiiiiight....


Not uncommon actually.

And for all of you thinking the Mafia may be involved in this:  the mob in Philly has been a shadow of their
former shelves ever since the 1990s.  They can barely fix parking tickets these days.
 
2013-06-13 12:27:08 PM  

umad: /we are playing "Let's point out the obvious", right?


Apparently we are:

MBrady: The guy inspected buildings, not drug test the operator of the crane/ball that was knocking the building down.

 
2013-06-13 12:28:04 PM  
Aww man! I wanted something more Dwyer-esque with his suicide!

/And then see it every half hour on CNN Headline News
 
2013-06-13 12:43:16 PM  

namegoeshere: Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]
/HOT (the pic, not this guy)


Hey, Crabman.
 
2013-06-13 12:45:54 PM  

Flab: Not only did he give the go ahead, he went back after people complained and reported no violations.


When your violations get so bad that a layman bystander CALLS THE INSPECTOR to say "Good sir, I think something's awry with this operation and it requires your personal attention forthwith!" then you know it's pretty bad.

If he did his due diligence, there's nothing to feel guilty about.  You aren't responsible for how the operator behaves or how they go about their work.  You can tell them what to do, you can force a stop work order, but you can't hold their hand (or their blunt) while they're driving the crane.

My guess is that he saw violations that he considered minor at the time and figured that it didn't matter since the worst case scenario was that the building would come down, which was what they were there to do in the first place.  I'd also go so far as to say he was sick of the demo company farking around and decided that he'd let them take some equipment damage or an injury so they would get the message that it was supposed to be serious.

/Normally my code of ethics would require me to contact the inspector before talking, but he's dead so it's cool.
 
2013-06-13 01:01:11 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Gunshot to the chest? Good lord


I found it odd, too. Usually, it's the football players who go that route.
 
2013-06-13 01:02:03 PM  

umad: umad: /we are playing "Let's point out the obvious", right?

Apparently we are:

MBrady: The guy inspected buildings, not drug test the operator of the crane/ball that was knocking the building down.


Wow.   Guess it's hard to imagine that two people are posting the same thing 3 minutes apart.  But I'm sure you never thought of that, did you jackass?
 
2013-06-13 01:02:18 PM  

buckler: namegoeshere: Really? Did anyone think this guy was not on drugs?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]
/HOT (the pic, not this guy)

That's the crane operator who knocked the building over onto the thrift shop next door, not the inspector.


Yes I know. I RTFA and stuff.
 
2013-06-13 01:24:09 PM  
This will be the subject of the portion of Philadelphia City Council who is up for reelection this year. Photo ops of news briefings where the hopefuls announcing City Council hearings into this tragic event. The lawmakers won't get rid of the "DROP" program that pays some city employees a lumpsum  cash payment upon retiring (in addition to receiving their city pension),

The inspector shot himself, they should have dropped a building on him.
 
2013-06-13 01:25:02 PM  
I suppose this was preferable to being regularly sodomized in jail?

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2013-06-13 01:34:55 PM  

ole prophet: Fissile: Took one too many bribes.

Came here to say this.


Alternatively, Was one too many witnesses.
 
2013-06-13 02:23:48 PM  

MBrady: Wow. Guess it's hard to imagine that two people are posting the same thing that was clearly spelled out in TFA 3 minutes apart. But I'm sure you never thought of that, did you jackass?


FTFY, jackass.
 
2013-06-13 02:30:34 PM  

brantgoose: That's a shame.

And it probably wasn't his fault the building went down, given the record of both the company and the worker who turned himself in. Of course, it's a speculation that the two events were connected--perhaps his suicide had nothing to do with work.

I would suggest that in the future, vulnerable buildings like the thrift shop be closed during the critical stages of demolition.

It looks like the safety measures were inadequate--I didn't see any sign of fences or scaffolding to protect pedestrians from a falling brick, let alone a falling wall. Too much laissez-faire and not enough oversight and accountability.

Thank the gods they weren't using handguns to shoot the building down.


This tragedy and the Kermit Gosnell horror house were about 20 blocks apart.  Both indicators of what a horrible job Philly does as far as oversight and accountability goes.  But hey, the city gets 4% of my paycheck right off the top, just because my company chose to operate in Philly.  I wonder where that money goes?
 
2013-06-13 02:50:45 PM  

Snakeophelia: But hey, the city gets 4% of my paycheck right off the top, just because my company chose to operate in Philly.  I wonder where that money goes?


Toynbee squares probably.
 
2013-06-13 02:51:26 PM  

Snakeophelia: This tragedy and the Kermit Gosnell horror house were about 20 blocks apart. Both indicators of what a horrible job Philly does as far as oversight and accountability goes. But hey, the city gets 4% of my paycheck right off the top, just because my company chose to operate in Philly. I wonder where that money goes?


http://www.citycommittee.org/
 
2013-06-13 03:09:51 PM  

Snakeophelia: But hey, the city gets 4% of my paycheck right off the top


That's why I switched to working from home.
 
2013-06-13 03:25:23 PM  

theMagni: Flab: Not only did he give the go ahead, he went back after people complained and reported no violations.

When your violations get so bad that a layman bystander CALLS THE INSPECTOR to say "Good sir, I think something's awry with this operation and it requires your personal attention forthwith!" then you know it's pretty bad.

If he did his due diligence, there's nothing to feel guilty about.  You aren't responsible for how the operator behaves or how they go about their work.  You can tell them what to do, you can force a stop work order, but you can't hold their hand (or their blunt) while they're driving the crane.

My guess is that he saw violations that he considered minor at the time and figured that it didn't matter since the worst case scenario was that the building would come down, which was what they were there to do in the first place.  I'd also go so far as to say he was sick of the demo company farking around and decided that he'd let them take some equipment damage or an injury so they would get the message that it was supposed to be serious.

/Normally my code of ethics would require me to contact the inspector before talking, but he's dead so it's cool.


Could you elaborate into why a building inspector would be so important in all this?  Most of my understanding about a building inspector's job is to make sure what is being properly done during building or repairing the structure.  Or in cases to decide if a building can be saved or demolished.  This building was coming down, so what would his role be in this project?  As for safety of the crew OSHA would play a significant role, but is this guy a specific inspector that makes sure hazardous materials are properly disposed and things like that?
 
2013-06-13 03:58:26 PM  

lack of warmth: Could you elaborate into why a building inspector would be so important in all this?  Most of my understanding about a building inspector's job is to make sure what is being properly done during building or repairing the structure.  Or in cases to decide if a building can be saved or demolished.  This building was coming down, so what would his role be in this project?  As for safety of the crew OSHA would play a significant role, but is this guy a specific inspector that makes sure hazardous materials are properly disposed and things like that?


Me too be curious. What are we mssing here?
 
2013-06-13 03:58:30 PM  

Moodybastard: Random Anonymous Blackmail: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom


Gunshot to the chest? Good lord


Sounds more like a mafia assisted suicide.

So he fell on to some bullets?


Down an elevator shaft onto them
 
2013-06-13 04:23:32 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: graeth: self inflicted in the.....chest......rrrrrriiiiiiiiiight....

Not uncommon actually.


My best friend shot himself in the chest.
And then the shoulder.
And then the mouth.

While his new wife wasn't at her usual lunch hangout - she'd gone to a bookstore instead.

/not suspicious
//certain
 
2013-06-13 04:24:46 PM  
Acceptable. His honor is restored.
 
2013-06-13 04:28:54 PM  

lack of warmth: Could you elaborate into why a building inspector would be so important in all this?  Most of my understanding about a building inspector's job is to make sure what is being properly done during building or repairing the structure.  Or in cases to decide if a building can be saved or demolished.  This building was coming down, so what would his role be in this project?  As for safety of the crew OSHA would play a significant role, but is this guy a specific inspector that makes sure hazardous materials are properly disposed and things like that?


AlanSmithee: Me too be curious. What are we mssing here?


You know what?  I really don't know.  I agree that a lot is missing from this story.

My understanding is that he was the lead inspector.  Usually they only show up when things are totally pear-shaped and the rest of the team can't figure out what to do.  I only saw the lead engineer for one of the local cities out once, and that's when the drain for a park had to go through a water main.  He figured out how to do that.
 
2013-06-13 04:42:41 PM  

Snakeophelia: brantgoose: That's a shame.

And it probably wasn't his fault the building went down, given the record of both the company and the worker who turned himself in. Of course, it's a speculation that the two events were connected--perhaps his suicide had nothing to do with work.

I would suggest that in the future, vulnerable buildings like the thrift shop be closed during the critical stages of demolition.

It looks like the safety measures were inadequate--I didn't see any sign of fences or scaffolding to protect pedestrians from a falling brick, let alone a falling wall. Too much laissez-faire and not enough oversight and accountability.

Thank the gods they weren't using handguns to shoot the building down.

This tragedy and the Kermit Gosnell horror house were about 20 blocks apart.  Both indicators of what a horrible job Philly does as far as oversight and accountability goes.  But hey, the city gets 4% of my paycheck right off the top, just because my company chose to operate in Philly.  I wonder where that money goes?


Offshore bank account.
 
2013-06-13 06:49:30 PM  

umad: MBrady: Wow. Guess it's hard to imagine that two people are posting the same thing that was clearly spelled out in TFA 3 minutes apart. But I'm sure you never thought of that, did you jackass?

FTFY, jackass.


DNTFA jackass.

Go F yourself with your sister's dildoe - sideways
 
2013-06-13 07:04:47 PM  

MBrady: DNTFA jackass.

Go F yourself with your sister's dildoe - sideways


You didn't even need to RTFA. The headline covers it too. I would tell you to go fark your sister, but you probably already do.

Jackass
 
2013-06-13 07:30:58 PM  
If only police officers had this level of honor.
 
2013-06-13 09:57:06 PM  

AlanSmithee: lack of warmth: Could you elaborate into why a building inspector would be so important in all this?  Most of my understanding about a building inspector's job is to make sure what is being properly done during building or repairing the structure.  Or in cases to decide if a building can be saved or demolished.  This building was coming down, so what would his role be in this project?  As for safety of the crew OSHA would play a significant role, but is this guy a specific inspector that makes sure hazardous materials are properly disposed and things like that?

Me too be curious. What are we mssing here?


Just conjecture, here:

There may have been buttresses and scaffolding required to prevent the exterior walls from falling as the interior was demolished.  Things that neede to be done in a certain order to prevent the excavator from knocking down support beams.  Netting or fences to catch falling bricks, etc...
 
2013-06-14 11:47:15 AM  

umad: MBrady: DNTFA jackass.

Go F yourself with your sister's dildoe - sideways

You didn't even need to RTFA. The headline covers it too. I would tell you to go fark your sister, but you probably already do.

Jackass


Okay, we seem to have a consensus here.
 
2013-06-14 03:58:59 PM  
In the 70's I spent over 7 years in the demolition business in the UK, leveling everything from thousands of old row houses built at the dawn of British industrialization to the old coal burning power stations and chemical plants built to support said communities. By the nature of the business it is extremely dangerous. Even with the assistance of engineers and other specialists it is virtually impossible to pre-think every potential problem or danger built into (or more importantly, removed from) any given structure over an extended period of time, prior to the actual demolition. Most of the time local building inspectors simply went with our recommendations based on the individual projects requirements and followed up to make sure we adhered to our pre-submitted plan of attack.
The single biggest problem I see with this particular situation is that the adjoining building was actually occupied and open to the public at all, whilst demolition was in progress. We could analyze any situation and structure and accurately determine exactly where every piece of the structure should land and or fall during the demolition process, and 99% of the time that is exactly what happened.
For safety though, 100% of the time we would clear any area around the site that could possibly be affected in any way at all, "just in case". Unfortunately this was not done in Philadelphia. I could not imagine myself working on a high (4 story) structure like this one, with people still inside a single story building adjacent, a couple of bricks alone could have broken through that roof from 30 feet above let alone the whole wall. I feel sorry for everyone involved in this mess.
 
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