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(Mirror.co.uk)   Confused former UK Cabinet minister thinks gay marriage will force him to marry his son   ( mirror.co.uk) divider line
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2013-05-21 03:08:50 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: To be fair he looks lost and confused.  Does he know what year it is?

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"Where's Bobby? I want some fried chicken! The woman who comes in to clean steals from me! Who the hell are you people? Get out of my house!"
2013-05-21 04:26:43 PM  
It's the poor man's Donald Rumsfield.
2013-05-21 06:38:39 PM  

drxym: It's hilarious to watch the Conservatives implode over this. Their party appears to be comprised of a majority who are moderate,  reasonable people who favour small government and fiscal responsibility and a minority who are frothing at the mouth homophobes, bigots, euroskeptics and closet racists. The so called "swivel eyed loons" of the party.

So their electoral base has fractured and they're practically handing Labour the next government on a silver plate and wrapped in a bow.

The best thing the conservatives could do at this point is kick the loons out. Let them go to UKIP (basically a pasteurized version of the BNP - a racist and nationalistic), lick their wounds and come back a reformed and saner party.

The only problem with that plan is the grass roots Conservative party, the membership (rather than the Parliamentary Conservative party, those actually elected to Westminster) seem to tend more to the swivel-eyed-loon side of things.

Never underestimate the Blue Rinse Bridage!
2013-05-21 06:39:36 PM  

Amy Winehouse's Ghost: It's the poor man's Donald Rumsfield.

I'm not sure he likes poor people very much.
2013-05-21 06:43:23 PM  
That's not how it works at all.  He will, however, be required to marry Rick Santorum's dog.
2013-05-21 07:02:21 PM  

I Ate Shergar: Labour did kick the extremists out in the 80s. There comes a point where the sane(ish) members of a party can no longer deny the damage caused by the lunatic fringe.

After being trounced in the 1983 election (Gerald Kaufman described his party's manifesto as "the longest suicide note in history") they did indeed start dealing with the nutters, but Mrs T still managed to thrash them again, and while John major's win was a bit of a surprise in 92, it wasn't until Tony Blair made the entire party his biatches with the Clause 4 vote that the lunatic fringe were fully quashed.

Crazies like Tony Benn still think that more extremist policies are needed to win, despite the evidence of every election, ever, anywhere.
2013-05-21 07:03:10 PM  

I Ate Shergar: Labour did kick the extremists out in the 80s. There comes a point where the sane(ish) members of a party can no longer deny the damage caused by the lunatic fringe.

Exactly. The Labour party of the 70s, 80s and 90s were basically socialists in the proper sense of the word and the union's biatches. Unsurprisingly they were completely toxic to voters who were fed up of industrial strife and were happy for the conservatives to reform the country in ways which were long overdue. Labour had to throw out these dinosaurs to stand a chance of being relected.

I see the same implosion happening in the Conservatives at the moment. They're going to lose the next election and probably drag the Liberals down with them even though they don't deserve it. The result will be a Labour landslide and a Conservative party wondering what the heck happened. The answer is of course is they allowed their lunatic fringe to hijack the agenda. They have to reform these people or throw them out. Let UKIP have them. UKIP is a flash in the pan, holds policies deeply repugnant to mainstream politics and will likely wither away when they don't have the Right wing press on their side or the government to snipe at.
2013-05-21 07:45:12 PM  
What kind of a world do we live in where a gay man is forbidden from marrying his gay son?  If that's how this "equal rights" shiat is going to workout, then I want none of it.  All or nothing, I say.  If you're just going to put arbitrary restrictions on marriage, then what good is it?  I mean, fine, if my son is 12, then I get it.  If my son is a 2 year old iguana, fine.  But if my iguana son is an adult, then I should be allowed to legally gay marry my adult iguana son.  PERIOD.  Screw you old man.  Go suck some spotted dick.  You know you want to.  Suck it.  Like an iguana cloaca.
2013-05-21 08:25:12 PM  

drxym: The result will be a Labour landslide and a Conservative party wondering what the heck happened.

I'm not really seeing Milliband as a 'landslide' sort of leader. I know people seem to hate the coalition but...

drxym: The answer is of course is they allowed their lunatic fringe to hijack the agenda.

I'm not really sure that's true either. The lunatic fringe are making a lot of noise at the moment, certainly, but the agenda seems to be to get this law through (and it's about time IMHO).
I'm not old enough to remember the 70s, but I don't remember there being a lefty-socialist-loon spinoff party like UKIP cropping up.

I get the feeling we're in new territory here. Farage seems to be pulling off his man of the people act for now and it's really hard to see exactly WTF is going to happen. I bet we end up with another coalition at the next election. I wouldn't like to put money on who exactly it would be made up of though.
2013-05-21 11:28:38 PM  

ginandbacon: From the comments:

"no1 said anything about ppl being able to marry their own kids u numpty"

Numpty, my new favorite insult.

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What a numpty might look like.
2013-05-22 12:41:59 AM  

PsiChick: phalamir: the former Cabinet minister even warned that same-sex marriage legislation could see a lesbian queen on the throne

As an American, I hate to have to a Brit, but: the Act of Settlement contains a relentlessly deterministic mechanism for deciding who exactly is the next person in line to sit on the throne - if the correct conditions are met, a 35 stone, tattooed, bull-dyke she-beast with enough piercings to make metal detectors go off for miles around, dragging a virtual BDSM harem along behind her in chains would be the next monarch under current British law, and no one could do a goddamn thing about it.

Am I the only one who thinks that would be farking epic?

2013-05-22 12:56:14 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.

I don't care who you're in love with, you can't marry a snapping turtle!
2013-05-22 02:04:37 AM  

Gordon Bennett: seventypercent: Numpty?

Scottish word for idiot.

Pronounced with an umpty.
2013-05-22 04:44:38 AM  

Gothnet: I'm not really seeing Milliband as a 'landslide' sort of leader. I know people seem to hate the coalition but...

Milliband is without doubt one of the creepiest leaders I've ever seen. He doesn't appear to be looking at people but through them as if they're meaningless to him and perhaps they are.

But people won't be voting for him, they'll be voting against the Conservatives. And in a Weeners the post system the fact that the Conservative's voting base is undermined by UKIP means Labour will win by a landslide. I can't see the Conservatives recovering substantially from their doldrums whether they call a snap election with a bunch of rash promises about a EU referendum or whether they cling on. I reckon their best hope when they are swept from power is to purge their ranks of the loons and start afresh like Labour did.
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