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(   Nazi themed opera opens in Germany after dancers finally learn choreography routines done entirely in goose steps   ( divider line
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676 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 09 May 2013 at 8:54 AM (5 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2013-05-09 08:50:33 AM  
It's probably not as good as Hitler on Ice.
2013-05-09 08:56:59 AM  
2013-05-09 08:58:48 AM  
It's not over until the fat lady is arrested by the SS.
2013-05-09 09:10:34 AM Full Size
2013-05-09 09:13:28 AM  
Wow, what a radically new concept
2013-05-09 09:17:00 AM  
"Gooshteeping moronsh like your shelf should try reading booksh instead of burning them."
2013-05-09 09:18:09 AM  

2013-05-09 09:25:07 AM  
Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings! We are only seeing singing Hitlers.
2013-05-09 09:44:58 AM  
Challenge tap!
2013-05-09 09:49:24 AM  
Mel Brooks vantz ein vord.
2013-05-09 10:49:58 AM  
how could anyone associate Wagner with the Nazis?
2013-05-09 11:08:25 AM  
I thought Springtime for Hitler was a musical not an opera.
2013-05-09 11:17:37 AM  
They'll quickly run out of ideas for the production, though, considering that the average Wagner opera lasts longer than the 3rd Reich did...
2013-05-09 12:17:24 PM  
Just make sure no one bars the door shut, lights the film on fire, and guns down the audience.
2013-05-09 12:28:55 PM  

groppet: I thought Springtime for Hitler was a musical not an opera.

Came for the Springtime For Hitler reference, leaving satisfied.
2013-05-09 01:19:10 PM  
My Son was in a HS production of Sound of Music recently , and it was touch and go for a while whether they'd be allowed to use any Nazi insignia or regalia for the show at all.  They did cut the scene with Captain Von Trapp ripping down the giant Nazi flag since they didn;t want to have to display a Nazi flag, but they did let the kids playing the actual Nazi's wear swastika arm bands...but put them on strict orders that the moment they left the stage they had to take them off, and were not allowed anywhere in the school but the theatre while in costume.

Gotta say I was proud my of my kid for being a chip off the ol' block when he got yelled at by the director more than once during rehearsal for improv-ing bits from" the Producers" during rehersal.  That and responding to the line "Captain, the Von Trapps have gone!" variously with "WOW! I did NAZI that coming"  or shouting "FInd the halfings" before releasing his Naz minions throughout the theatre to look for the Von Trapps
2013-05-09 02:08:16 PM  
Wait, doesn't germany basically ban even mentioning nazism? I got the impression they're not exactly proud of that period,..
2013-05-09 02:14:11 PM  
2013-05-09 02:51:22 PM  

Somaticasual: Wait, doesn't germany basically ban even mentioning nazism? I got the impression they're not exactly proud of that period,..

I would hope so, but completely ignoring that period would be a bit counter-productive. Yes, there are plenty of laws in place concerning this, the Allied post-war regulations are basically part of the constitution. Most of the symbols and slogans -- including the swastika -- are illegal, Holocaust denial is a punishable offense (not just in Germany, by the way).

But there always have been exceptions for education and art, or else movies like Downfall couldn't have been made. Heck, nowadays there's even an increasing amount of comedy about Hitler, including silly cartoons and a quite popular Office parody (with Hitler playing the Carell/Gervais part). I think the only problems I can remember were ratings-related, e.g. when the movie wasn't squarely aimed at adults (Disney's Rocketeer). And, well, computer games, but German legislation is rather strange about them anyways (Mortal Kombat had blue blood sprites, so apparently Scorpion & Johnny Cage just sweat a lot when hit).

And there was certainly no lack of opera and theatre productions that tackled this. It's not just the Brits who worry about the spectre of fascism everywhere (c.f. the '95 Richard III movie). And if the source has some military conflict anyway, it's easy enough to integrate something. I've seen a version of William Tell with this theme ages ago. Wasn't there Nazi-themed "Magic Flute" a couple of years ago (not exactly the most serious of operas in itself).

So I don't think that would really shock anyway, it's almost a tired cliché by now. I've read the press a bit, and this production was mostly criticized for its graphic depictions of violence, including rape, suicides, self-immolation and rape. So it's about being tasteless, not breaking any taboos. Heck, the Jewish community frowned upon the shenanigans, so it's certainly not about not mentioning the war. (Apparently it was the Nazi equivalent of Schwarzeneggers Hamlet.)

And the weird thing is that Tannhäuser ain't exactly a very violent or dark opera. Redemption from a hedonistic life of pagan debauchery to Christian purity doesn't really translate well to Nazi war crimes. Not sure what was intended by that...

Not sure whether that's enough to cancel it, as nobody's forced to go into that, but that's a decision for the opera house to make and apparently they decided to ditch the decorations and turn it into a purely recitative performance now.
2013-05-09 05:13:27 PM  
Springtime for Hitler?
2013-05-09 05:59:31 PM  
The Producers did it first and better.

/just rewatched that movie today
//man, I love the play
2013-05-09 08:34:12 PM  
I have always wanted to give real Nazis a voice on stage. Seriously. Everyone deserves to have their work seen by an audience. And with the same respect we should give anyone with the balls to stand on a stage and sing somthing that really means somthing to them. Musical theater is in so many ways the most basic and true of all story telling. Why not for nazis?
2013-05-09 09:02:34 PM  
Has anyone mentioned "The Producers" yet?
2013-05-09 09:29:07 PM  

sirbissel: Has anyone mentioned "The Producers" yet?

Don't be stupid, be a smartie.
2013-05-10 10:57:43 AM  

oryx: Dusseldorf!

2013-05-10 11:07:12 AM  
Working title for the overture:  Schindler's Liszt.
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