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2013-05-09 4:49:33 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I'd like to suggest, with complete seriousness, that if you're the type of person who, within 2 days of a story like this breaking, has as his main inclination the desire to dig up whatever dirt you can find on the one "hero" who's emerged in the hopes of driving page views to your voyeur website, or if you willingly work for such a person, you should take a long, hard look at your life, have a shot of whisky, and shoot yourself in the head. Please. Do that.


And I would say above also goes for submittard and the mod who greenlighted this bullshiat.
 
2013-05-09 4:50:07 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I'd like to suggest, with complete seriousness, that if you're the type of person who, within 2 days of a story like this breaking, has as his main inclination the desire to dig up whatever dirt you can find on the one "hero" who's emerged in the hopes of driving page views to your voyeur website, or if you willingly work for such a person, you should take a long, hard look at your life, have a shot of whisky, and shoot yourself in the head. Please. Do that.


I bet you know that you rule. If not, you surpass rulinng or being the rulesiest; you shoot straight to the top and earn the coveted Rulesiest GT, sir!
 
2013-05-09 4:51:26 AM  
It's easy to judge, but has anyone considered the possibility that he was drunk at the time or that maybe his old lady was getting all mouthy?
 
2013-05-09 4:52:39 AM  

Hoban Washburne: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Hoban Washburne: mikeray: 80% of Americans would have not wanted to get involved and walked away.

You really think so? Jesus Christ.  I hope you're nowhere close to right.

He's wrong

/probably closer to 90%

I have a semi-struggle with misanthropy, and I still think humans are way better than that.  I can't imagine if a woman in my neighborhood was screaming for help that I wouldn't at the very least call 911.  That doesn't change the fact that this guy did the right thing.  Nor do his past issues with domestic violence.


Kitty Genovese would sadly disagree with you. So does the Bystander Effect of social psychology.

Doesn't change the fact that this guy did the right thing. He has a bad past, but it doesn't change the fact that he stepped up where most others would have failed. It doesn't excuse his past, either. it just confirms that he is human: flawed and struggling with good and bad impulses like we all are.
 
2013-05-09 4:55:11 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I'd like to suggest, with complete seriousness, that if you're the type of person who, within 2 days of a story like this breaking, has as his main inclination the desire to dig up whatever dirt you can find on the one "hero" who's emerged in the hopes of driving page views to your voyeur website, or if you willingly work for such a person, you should take a long, hard look at your life, have a shot of whisky, and shoot yourself in the head. Please. Do that.


this is worth quoting again.

and again and again
 
2013-05-09 5:00:55 AM  
The virgins and saints at smokinggun.com couldn't resist trying to bring a hero down. They should be ashamed of themselves. Who have they saved lately?

/Drew, stop promoting these scumbags who have nothing better to do then tear down others who who have better than they have.
//When was the last time smokinggun.com helped anyone?
///It's a site dedicated to bringing others down.
 
2013-05-09 5:02:12 AM  

GungFu: GungFu: Followup:

Kidnapped girls dressed 'sexy' on the days they were kidnapped. Friends said they also 'gave it out' after a few drinks too.


http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/05/ariel-castro-suicide-note-blames-v ic tims/

Ariel Castro 'Suicide Note' BLAMES VICTIMS for Their Own Abductions


-------

FTFA: "The brothers, thought to be co-conspirators, were released without being charged..."

ARE YOU FARKING KIDDING ME???
 
2013-05-09 5:07:48 AM  
Doesn't surprise me that scum like smokinggun.com and Fark would try to bring this guy down eventually.  Now you wonder why more people don't get involved?
 
2013-05-09 5:14:20 AM  
Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.
 
2013-05-09 5:16:39 AM  

planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.


He's a good man, and I'm disgusted people are trying to tear the guy down.
 
2013-05-09 5:20:09 AM  
The only thing funnier than Charles in his interviews is the panty-wadders on here going on about how everyone's trying to "bring him down", bro.
 
2013-05-09 5:20:56 AM  
fark you, Fark. Just because Smoking Gun did it, you're going to promote this character assassination, too?
 
2013-05-09 5:24:05 AM  
This thread illustrates my point about "heroes."  They are simply the characters in morality tales who  convey the tale's moral.  It doesn't matter whether they are admirable or disreputable people.  It doesn't matter how great or small their sacrifices are.  It doesn't matter how much good they do.

All that heroes do is show us how society expects us to behave and the rewards of doing so (even if the rewards go to the hero's survivors).

People who question a hero's qualifications may be people who think they didn't get enough credit for their heroics; it's just envy.  Most people who are hailed as heroes deny being heroes, although there may be media selection bias in that.
 
2013-05-09 5:25:03 AM  
That is how we are in the USA, as soon as you build a man up, try to find away to knock him down.

I just see it this way, the man did the right thing in a situation where many people, including many of you Farkers no matter how much you deny it, would have minded their own business and continued to eat their Macdonald's.

From his interview when he said he suspected that there was domestic violence involved, you can tell the man has turned a corner from where he was before. Just hope that people don't all of a sudden turn on him.
 
2013-05-09 5:26:41 AM  

planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.


  It's not like he gave out his address or anything.  You know, just in case someone wanted to send a thank you  or something.
 
2013-05-09 5:33:43 AM  

planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.


I guess he's forgotten that court-ordered child support, or maybe he hasn't.

It's interesting that a man can fark up once in his life and people will condemn him to eternal torment, but a habitual farkup  who does one heroic thing is forgiven everything and bought a virtual round of beer.
 
2013-05-09 5:34:45 AM  
This just in, person who is capable of bad deeds can also do good deeds and vice versa.

Neither dissolves the other unless they're directly related, but you can be known for either or neither at different points in time.
 
2013-05-09 5:35:46 AM  
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2013-05-09 5:36:28 AM  

letthepossumlive: planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.

  It's not like he gave out his address or anything.  You know, just in case someone wanted to send a thank you  or something.


There's an online fundraiser collecting thank-yous for him.  It was over $2500 a few days ago.  Maybe Child Support Enforcement noticed that, too.
 
2013-05-09 5:37:01 AM  

steerforth: The only thing funnier than Charles in his interviews is the panty-wadders on here going on about how everyone's trying to "bring him down", bro.


There's panty-wadders whining and then there's undue and unnecessary character assassination observed by people looking at a good outcome to a terrible situation, braugh. Did you look into little-dead-kid in Boston and attack his report card lerping late into the night as well, or is that too sensitive for ya?
 
2013-05-09 5:39:28 AM  

innsaei: steerforth: The only thing funnier than Charles in his interviews is the panty-wadders on here going on about how everyone's trying to "bring him down", bro.

There's panty-wadders whining and then there's undue and unnecessary character assassination observed by people looking at a good outcome to a terrible situation, braugh. Did you look into little-dead-kid in Boston and attack his report card lerping late into the night as well, or is that too sensitive for ya?


There's people who renew my faith in humanity and make me feel better, and there are people who ruin it and make me feel worse.  It's really about me and making me feel better, in the end.
 
2013-05-09 5:42:16 AM  
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand MLK Jr. was a liar and a cheater. People still worship the guy.
 
2013-05-09 5:44:05 AM  
Sounds like you can't do either without at least one other person involved... and I agree there. It also sounds like you have two Fark handles, but hey; whatever it takes to get the job done. It would be a lonely world for you if you had nothing else to observe and take pity/humility on/from, yeah?
 
2013-05-09 5:44:54 AM  
Why get involved? Do something heroic, and smokinggun, Fark, and the rest of the shiatbags will bring you into the spotlight, then work their best to bring you down. Go fark off smokinggun. How does it feel feel to live off on peoples ruined lives? That is exactly what they do, and it makes me disgusted Fark feeds on that like a bunch of eels feeding on a horse head. It's not like they just go after people who do horrific crimes, they try to dig up dirt on people who do good as well. If you aren't disgusted yet, you should be. Go eat your eels Drew.
 
2013-05-09 5:48:32 AM  

muck4doo: Why get involved? Do something heroic, and smokinggun, Fark, and the rest of the shiatbags will bring you into the spotlight, then work their best to bring you down. Go fark off smokinggun. How does it feel feel to live off on peoples ruined lives? That is exactly what they do, and it makes me disgusted Fark feeds on that like a bunch of eels feeding on a horse head. It's not like they just go after people who do horrific crimes, they try to dig up dirt on people who do good as well. If you aren't disgusted yet, you should be. Go eat your eels Drew.


Oh c'mon, the Mugshot Round-up is comic gold. Those people made their choices.

Also, you're still here, cocksmoker.
 
2013-05-09 5:48:58 AM  
nooones like a loud mouth biatch
 
2013-05-09 5:50:01 AM  

F22raptom: nooones like a loud mouth biatch


Actually, Mr. Ramsey seems very popular at the moment.
 
2013-05-09 5:51:44 AM  
There's just no substitute for experience.

/it's a good thing he was knowed up
//all part of Gods plan
 
2013-05-09 5:51:56 AM  

robohobo: muck4doo: Why get involved? Do something heroic, and smokinggun, Fark, and the rest of the shiatbags will bring you into the spotlight, then work their best to bring you down. Go fark off smokinggun. How does it feel feel to live off on peoples ruined lives? That is exactly what they do, and it makes me disgusted Fark feeds on that like a bunch of eels feeding on a horse head. It's not like they just go after people who do horrific crimes, they try to dig up dirt on people who do good as well. If you aren't disgusted yet, you should be. Go eat your eels Drew.

Oh c'mon, the Mugshot Round-up is comic gold. Those people made their choices.

Also, you're still here, cocksmoker.


When the mugshot roundup features people who helped rescue kidnap victims, let me know. Until then keep being a douche.
 
2013-05-09 5:54:22 AM  

muck4doo: robohobo: muck4doo: Why get involved? Do something heroic, and smokinggun, Fark, and the rest of the shiatbags will bring you into the spotlight, then work their best to bring you down. Go fark off smokinggun. How does it feel feel to live off on peoples ruined lives? That is exactly what they do, and it makes me disgusted Fark feeds on that like a bunch of eels feeding on a horse head. It's not like they just go after people who do horrific crimes, they try to dig up dirt on people who do good as well. If you aren't disgusted yet, you should be. Go eat your eels Drew.

Oh c'mon, the Mugshot Round-up is comic gold. Those people made their choices.

Also, you're still here, cocksmoker.

When the mugshot roundup features people who helped rescue kidnap victims, let me know. Until then keep being a douche.


Sure thing, Katie.

And if (when) it comes out that this guy is lying, what then?
 
2013-05-09 5:55:43 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: F22raptom: nooones like a loud mouth biatch

Actually, Mr. Ramsey seems very popular at the moment.


what the fark did you just farkING SAY about zyzz, you little biatch?
 
2013-05-09 5:59:23 AM  
And this backlash is why, if and when I ever do something good or even decent, I try to do it anonymously.  I've got so many skeletons in my closet, I make a graveyard look empty.
 
2013-05-09 6:01:36 AM  

cherryl taggart: And this backlash is why, if and when I ever do something good or even decent, I try to do it anonymously.  I've got so many skeletons in my closet, I make a graveyard look empty.


All your skeletons gots teh gay?

/NTTAMFWWT
 
2013-05-09 6:02:38 AM  

Hoban Washburne: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I can assure you that at least one of those men was neither exceptional, nor a hero

I was saying that they were exceptional in the moment.  Every single one of them might have been dicks, but to run over to a burning car and pull I guy out takes some serious deep rooted love for humanity.  I believe it's largely chemical/evolutionary, but that doesn't change the fact that they ran to a car that could have blown up.  If about 10% of people (per your story) would do that, I believe that a much larger percentage would at least call 911 for a woman screaming for help.  I don't know where the number is, but I'd like to think that it's better than 10-20%. Maybe I'm wrong.


Cars don't blow up when set on fire. That's just in movies.
 
2013-05-09 6:03:11 AM  

mikeray: Why tear down a man that does the right thing. 80% of Americans would have not wanted to get involved and walked away. He does the right thing and TMZ wants to turn him into a villain


Because black guy.
 
2013-05-09 6:03:58 AM  
Mr. Ramsey's white knights probably don't realize they're thinking like certain breeds of Christians.  You can abuse your women and neglect your kids, but once you do The Right Thing all is forgiven and the keys to the Kingdom are yours.

What Ramsey did for these women is an immutable fact and my appreciation of it is unchanged.  My opinion of who he is has been lowered by this new information.
 
2013-05-09 6:04:01 AM  

robohobo: muck4doo: robohobo: muck4doo: Why get involved? Do something heroic, and smokinggun, Fark, and the rest of the shiatbags will bring you into the spotlight, then work their best to bring you down. Go fark off smokinggun. How does it feel feel to live off on peoples ruined lives? That is exactly what they do, and it makes me disgusted Fark feeds on that like a bunch of eels feeding on a horse head. It's not like they just go after people who do horrific crimes, they try to dig up dirt on people who do good as well. If you aren't disgusted yet, you should be. Go eat your eels Drew.

Oh c'mon, the Mugshot Round-up is comic gold. Those people made their choices.

Also, you're still here, cocksmoker.

When the mugshot roundup features people who helped rescue kidnap victims, let me know. Until then keep being a douche.

Sure thing, Katie.

And if (when) it comes out that this guy is lying, what then?


That's what you were looking for. If/when. You have already presumed him guilty of something. Who made the phone calls? Why can't you accept he did something right, and heroic? Instead you try to bring him down. Why is that? What makes you presume he is lying?
 
2013-05-09 6:06:12 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Mr. Ramsey's white knights probably don't realize they're thinking like certain breeds of Christians.  You can abuse your women and neglect your kids, but once you do The Right Thing all is forgiven and the keys to the Kingdom are yours.

What Ramsey did for these women is an immutable fact and my appreciation of it is unchanged.  My opinion of who he is has been lowered by this new information.


Okay, you win for stupidest post. That will be hard to top.
 
2013-05-09 6:06:55 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.

I guess he's forgotten that court-ordered child support, or maybe he hasn't.

It's interesting that a man can fark up once in his life and people will condemn him to eternal torment, but a habitual farkup  who does one heroic thing is forgiven everything and bought a virtual round of beer.


He was ordered to pay $51 child support per month. Can you estimate his legal income from that?

In my experience, when a man says "I don't need the money.", it can mean anything from "I don't want to take money earned THAT way." to "Please give it to someone who understands money enough to benefit from it, as I have learned that I am a complete f-up with these things." So it could be anything from pride to sincere generosity to resignation. In any case, nice guy f-ups are usually fed by someone (if they seem to be trying), whereas anti-social misers only eat if they're successful. No need to hate on the guy, that is, unless you're his unsupported kid, and in her case she does appear to be holding a grudge.
 
2013-05-09 6:10:40 AM  
a thief assumes that others are thieves
a lier assumes that others lie

so when you see comments as above
you see actual personality
 
2013-05-09 6:12:06 AM  

E5bie: BarkingUnicorn: planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.

I guess he's forgotten that court-ordered child support, or maybe he hasn't.

It's interesting that a man can fark up once in his life and people will condemn him to eternal torment, but a habitual farkup  who does one heroic thing is forgiven everything and bought a virtual round of beer.

He was ordered to pay $51 child support per month. Can you estimate his legal income from that?

In my experience, when a man says "I don't need the money.", it can mean anything from "I don't want to take money earned THAT way." to "Please give it to someone who understands money enough to benefit from it, as I have learned that I am a complete f-up with these things." So it could be anything from pride to sincere generosity to resignation. In any case, nice guy f-ups are usually fed by someone (if they seem to be trying), whereas anti-social misers only eat if they're successful. No need to hate on the guy, that is, unless you're his unsupported kid, and in her case she does appear to be holding a grudge.


Some people are just mean hearted and don't want to see the good in any one else, unless it supports their already prejudiced beliefs and political positions.
 
2013-05-09 6:15:47 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I'd like to suggest, with complete seriousness, that if you're the type of person who, within 2 days of a story like this breaking, has as his main inclination the desire to dig up whatever dirt you can find on the one "hero" who's emerged in the hopes of driving page views to your voyeur website, or if you willingly work for such a person, you should take a long, hard look at your life, have a shot of whisky, and shoot yourself in the head. Please. Do that.


Umm no.  This guy is clearly a career criminal POS who happened to have a good moment. He is not a good person who had a couple of indiscretions. MANY MANY charges and convictions makes you a career criminal and a POS.
Good for what he did but he's not someone I want in my house as I feel confident he's lifting anything not nailed down.
 
2013-05-09 6:17:26 AM  

jmr61: Pocket Ninja: I'd like to suggest, with complete seriousness, that if you're the type of person who, within 2 days of a story like this breaking, has as his main inclination the desire to dig up whatever dirt you can find on the one "hero" who's emerged in the hopes of driving page views to your voyeur website, or if you willingly work for such a person, you should take a long, hard look at your life, have a shot of whisky, and shoot yourself in the head. Please. Do that.

Umm no.  This guy is clearly a career criminal POS who happened to have a good moment. He is not a good person who had a couple of indiscretions. MANY MANY charges and convictions makes you a career criminal and a POS.
Good for what he did but he's not someone I want in my house as I feel confident he's lifting anything not nailed down.


Good for you Saint jmr61.
 
2013-05-09 6:23:01 AM  

innsaei: steerforth: The only thing funnier than Charles in his interviews is the panty-wadders on here going on about how everyone's trying to "bring him down", bro.

There's panty-wadders whining and then there's undue and unnecessary character assassination observed by people looking at a good outcome to a terrible situation, braugh. Did you look into little-dead-kid in Boston and attack his report card lerping late into the night as well, or is that too sensitive for ya?


Lerping? Wat is lerping, precious?
 
2013-05-09 6:24:34 AM  
See, this is why I never help anyone. Do something good, and someone will do whatever it takes to prove to the world you're still an asshole. "The world deserves to know you're an asshole", they say. Exactly. So I just let them know myself. I don't need a middleman for that.
 
2013-05-09 6:24:45 AM  

muck4doo: E5bie: BarkingUnicorn: planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.

I guess he's forgotten that court-ordered child support, or maybe he hasn't.

It's interesting that a man can fark up once in his life and people will condemn him to eternal torment, but a habitual farkup  who does one heroic thing is forgiven everything and bought a virtual round of beer.

He was ordered to pay $51 child support per month. Can you estimate his legal income from that?

In my experience, when a man says "I don't need the money.", it can mean anything from "I don't want to take money earned THAT way." to "Please give it to someone who understands money enough to benefit from it, as I have learned that I am a complete f-up with these things." So it could be anything from pride to sincere generosity to resignation. In any case, nice guy f-ups are usually fed by someone (if they seem to be trying), whereas anti-social misers only eat if they're successful. No need to hate on the guy, that is, unless you're his unsupported kid, and in her case she does appear to be holding a grudge.

Some people are just mean hearted and don't want to see the good in any one else, unless it supports their already prejudiced beliefs and political positions.


Sad case in point, "I ate ribs with that guy!" has now morphed in my mind to "I smelled meat and came over to visit." Anybody else ever had THAT neighbor? Charming guy, loves to talk, just, shows up at everyone's cookout?
 
2013-05-09 6:24:53 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.

I guess he's forgotten that court-ordered child support, or maybe he hasn't.

It's interesting that a man can fark up once in his life and people will condemn him to eternal torment, but a habitual farkup  who does one heroic thing is forgiven everything and bought a virtual round of beer.


Well maybe he should get a round of beer. I think he might understand his place in the scheme of it too, he said he would refuse any money, and there might be two reasons behind that. One being that he'll have the spotlight on him, and two being if the spotlight shines too brightly or he's aiming the spotlight on himself we'll see everything.

It's not like this guy is running for Congress, and he didn't help the girls to boost him image. He did a good deed, that turned out to be a really good deed. That's it in a nutshell, in a few weeks he'll be the same person he was before this.
 
2013-05-09 6:29:40 AM  

muck4doo: jmr61: Pocket Ninja: I'd like to suggest, with complete seriousness, that if you're the type of person who, within 2 days of a story like this breaking, has as his main inclination the desire to dig up whatever dirt you can find on the one "hero" who's emerged in the hopes of driving page views to your voyeur website, or if you willingly work for such a person, you should take a long, hard look at your life, have a shot of whisky, and shoot yourself in the head. Please. Do that.

Umm no.  This guy is clearly a career criminal POS who happened to have a good moment. He is not a good person who had a couple of indiscretions. MANY MANY charges and convictions makes you a career criminal and a POS.
Good for what he did but he's not someone I want in my house as I feel confident he's lifting anything not nailed down.

Good for you Saint jmr61.


Yeah SAINT jmr61, who among us hasn't done time after they beat some chicks and got caught with some stolen stuff. Who are you to cast the first stone...man?
 
2013-05-09 6:30:11 AM  

E5bie: BarkingUnicorn: planes: Charles Ramsey was interviewed by Anderson Cooper, turns out there was reward money offered by the FBI for two of the women, Ramsey told them to "give it to the victims", he'd just picked up his paycheck (showed envelope to Cooper) and he didn't need the money.

I guess he's forgotten that court-ordered child support, or maybe he hasn't.

It's interesting that a man can fark up once in his life and people will condemn him to eternal torment, but a habitual farkup  who does one heroic thing is forgiven everything and bought a virtual round of beer.

He was ordered to pay $51 child support per month. Can you estimate his legal income from that?

In my experience, when a man says "I don't need the money.", it can mean anything from "I don't want to take money earned THAT way." to "Please give it to someone who understands money enough to benefit from it, as I have learned that I am a complete f-up with these things." So it could be anything from pride to sincere generosity to resignation. In any case, nice guy f-ups are usually fed by someone (if they seem to be trying), whereas anti-social misers only eat if they're successful. No need to hate on the guy, that is, unless you're his unsupported kid, and in her case she does appear to be holding a grudge.


I can estimate his current income as a dishwasher.

Is a nice guy someone who buys friends at his children's expense?   I've known some nice guys who bought me and everyone else drinks while bragging about how they dodged child support.  Then they'd smack the old lady for harshing their buzzes.  "Watsamatta wit choo, biatch?  Everybody else LOVES me!"

He's an habitual farkup who is still farking up by refusing money that could help his 15 year-old daughter. Think about that; those women who are total strangers to him are more important to him than his own child.  FOTY material?  I think not.

I think he just enjoys playing Big Man and running his mouth to get applause.
 
2013-05-09 6:36:16 AM  
Uh, why do we care about his past? Are we collectively unable to deal with moral ambiguity? Do we need a running karma score like a real world version of Fallout 3?  Sorry, sir, your karma isn't high enough to give credit where its due.

He did the right thing at that moment, end of story.
 
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