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(Slate)   Thoughtcrime is a real thing in Illinois, where merely wishing to go on a murderous rampage can land you in prison. Guard your thoughts, citizen   ( divider line
    More: Scary, Southern Illinois, Illinois Attorney General, terrorist threats, prisons, opinions  
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2013-04-11 05:32:18 AM  
4 votes:
Relax, people, It's a Slate article that fails to mention a few glaring pieces of f*cking evidence:

* Tognarelli also sentenced Oduwole to 364 days and a $1,000 fine on a related conviction of illegally having or storing a loaded pistol in his on-campus apartment the day he was arrested in July 2007

*  Oduwole was attending the Illinois school's 13,000-student Edwardsville campus, northeast of St. Louis, when campus police found a piece of paper in his abandoned car, which they had impounded and was out of gas. The writing demanded payment to a PayPal account, threatening "if this account doesn't reach $50,000 in the next 7 days then a murderous rampage similar to the VT shooting will occur at another highly populated university. THIS IS NOT A JOKE!"

*  Even before the piece of paper was found in his car, Oduwole was being scrutinized by federal agents

A gun dealer had tipped them off earlier in the month that Oduwole appeared overly anxious to get four semiautomatic weapons - including an Uzi-like Mac 10 - that he had ordered.

There's even more than that.  This guy was given very careful scrutiny.  And he was found guilty by a jury.  Just because some blogger thinks he can Hunter S Thompson everything into being a tale of a systematically abused judicial system doesn't make it so.
2013-04-10 09:17:22 PM  
2 votes:
This kind of crap makes me want to...wait, nevermind.
2013-04-11 09:06:53 AM  
1 vote:

Dwight_Yeast: I'm becoming increasingly certain that the use of the word "thoughtcrime" in a headline is an indication that the subby is a moron.

I see your "thoughtcrime" and raise you that any headline ending in  "..., citizen" is trolling or some absolute cherry-picked bullshiat.
2013-04-11 08:58:47 AM  
1 vote:

Silly Jesus: Dude, you're ruining the lib outrage / race card circle jerk with silly facts.

I know there isn't any inherent justice in the universe because if there were your face would burst into flames every time you used that word non-sarcastically.
2013-04-11 08:58:44 AM  
1 vote:
I'm becoming increasingly certain that the use of the word "thoughtcrime" in a headline is an indication that the subby is a moron.
2013-04-11 08:57:18 AM  
1 vote:
Conspiracy is a crime and has been for a long time. It's not "thoughtcrime". That's just a stupid thing that children with little real-world experience say because they saw it on the internet and never actually read 1984.

The problem here isn't "thoughtcrime", the problem here is overzealous prosecution and an under-intelligent jury that wound up convicting a guy based on a flimsy case. It's not a problem unique to this gentleman.

But let's all run around in a tizzy about it anyway while we ignore the other thousands of times it has happened all across the country. After all, somebody said "thoughtcrime".
2013-04-11 01:44:32 AM  
1 vote:
shiat like this is why I will never again set foot in Illinois , let alone Chicago.
2013-04-10 11:13:29 PM  
1 vote:
It'll ultimately be overturned. The standard is "imminent lawless action". Did they find any guns? How about bombs or other explosives? No? He'll get out, and Illinois better have a rainy-day fund because it'll be expensive when he does.
2013-04-10 09:06:42 PM  
1 vote:
Why were the police in his car, if the paper was found face-down in his locked car? What are the other circumstances here?  (Not that I remotely think anyone should be charged with writing or speaking words that could be threatening if they were actually used to threaten anyone)... I'm just trying to figure out how they found this paper.

I'd also like to know how you "attempt to threaten" anyone. Either you threaten someone or you don't, and you know who was threatened.
2013-04-10 09:02:25 PM  
1 vote:
was sentenced to five years in prison after being convicted of attempting to make a terrorist threat.

convicted of attempting to make a terrorist threat.

attempting to make a terrorist threat.

How does that even work? A threat is a threat. You can't attempt a threat, you either threaten them or you don't.
2013-04-10 08:57:52 PM  
1 vote:

Oduwole wasn't charged with making a terrorist threat, but with attempting to do so

That DA should be charged with "Gross Misconduct"

It's farking insane.
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