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(SeattlePI)   'Please help' and the 8 other things Earthlings want to say to extraterrestrials ... Turns out, we're a fairly self-obsessed bunch   ( blog.seattlepi.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, earthlings, SETI Institute, Tim Lower, University of Alaska  
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2013-04-10 01:48:01 PM  
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brantgoose: SF short stories seem to be firmly in the moralizing, predictable "idea" line established well before The Twilight Zone and its emulators.

that's why a writer would choose to employ science fiction.  science fiction is a proper vehicle to explore philosophical issues of etymology, metaphysics, certain ethics, etc.  it allows the writer to avoid certain obstacles to his vision by simply ignoring modern constraints on communication, technology, etc.  they get to jump straight to the bottom of the slippery slope and slosh around with impunity.

similar, but contrasted to fantasy, which is much more frequently dealing with ethical concerns about good and evil.  because the vehicle makes those concerns easily identifiable and polarizing.

keep in mind, the little world created is the least important thing.  it's the writing that matters.  now, for you, they have failed because you cannot suspend your disbelief.  that's fine.  that's why a lot of people think fantasy and sci-fi are simple forms of expression, because they remove the real concerns of existence to expose only those limited things the writer wants to deal with.  others think this very fact makes sci-fi and fantasy a superior expression for being concise and exploratory, like the philosopher's thought experiment.  why deal with reality when a hypothetical creates a much more addressable metaphor.

ultimately, some artist's depiction of aliens is immaterial to the story.  now, it may have had an effect on disbelief, interest, and other things, like our notions of what fictional aliens looks like, but that's like arguing whether hobbits have hairy toes or not.  not very interesting, aesthetically.

why do you think homer let odysseus go all crazy out there in fantasy land?  it let the poet address specifically issues of horrible nature (cyclops), drug abuse (lotus eaters), sexual issues (calypso), post traumatic stress disorder (the homecoming party), without having to get as touchy feely as he had to in the Iliad.
2013-04-10 01:50:54 PM  
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s2s2s2: Yeah, but we made up religion so atheists would have something to blame besides human nature!

And now we are writing hopeful little requests for intervention, help and guidance to powerful "aliens" in the sky that don't exist.

Just another side of the same coin.
2013-04-10 01:14:56 PM  
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2013-04-10 04:01:29 PM  
1 vote:

The Irresponsible Captain: Quantum Apostrophe: Hey aliens, you go the same stuff we do?

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Naaw. Lots of Unobtainium, and a little Dilithium. Wanna trade?

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/Crap. Hate it when I lose the image.
2013-04-10 03:59:15 PM  
1 vote:

Quantum Apostrophe: Hey aliens, you go the same stuff we do?

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Naaw. Lots of Unobtainium, and a little Dilithium. Wanna trade?
2013-04-10 03:51:58 PM  
1 vote:

Caffandtranqs: The "We are afraid of our propensity for violence" should have been accompanied with "Please save us from ourselves."

We have a Small Talent for War
2013-04-10 02:45:32 PM  
1 vote:

Ned Stark: Drinking certainly makes driving a piddly internal combustion powered vehicle more fun. Can't imagine the rule would be any different for a multi-ton FTL spacecraft with a reactionless drive.

Or on plutonian nyborg.
2013-04-10 02:18:57 PM  
1 vote:
Nuke us from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
2013-04-10 01:21:58 PM  
1 vote:
Almost every time one human culture encounters another, the more technologically advanced one destroys the less technologically advanced one.  If we encounter aliens similar enough to us to allow us to communicate or even have any common frame of reference (unlikely) and the aliens are the ones visiting us instead of the other way around, well.... there's no reason to believe that it won't happen to us.
2013-04-10 01:01:16 PM  
1 vote:
Hey aliens, you go the same stuff we do?

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2013-04-10 12:53:03 PM  
1 vote:
did anyone else find that webpage to be an unholy abortion in need of being destroyed by fire?
gave up trying to even find the slide show and just figured that if aliens found that page they would flee for their lives rather than read it
2013-04-10 12:38:16 PM  
1 vote:
Run and hide, because the monsters are coming - the human race.
2013-04-10 12:04:44 PM  
1 vote:
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth
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