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2013-04-08 08:08:18 AM  
I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:37 AM  
A huge force in history, whether you liked or hated her politics.  May she rest in peace.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:41 AM  
Thatcher?!  I don't even know 'er!
 
2013-04-08 08:08:44 AM  
RIP. You were a badass.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:46 AM  
Honestly thought she died years ago.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:53 AM  
Just a few
 
2013-04-08 08:09:08 AM  

I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.


Because she has moved on to a better place?
 
2013-04-08 08:09:16 AM  
The Tony Blair of the Reagan years.

Bye, now.
 
2013-04-08 08:09:29 AM  
Good night, you evil old witch.
 
2013-04-08 08:09:44 AM  

neversubmit: I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.

Because she has moved on to a better place?


No, the world did.
 
2013-04-08 08:09:47 AM  
She had quite a life, certainly an exceptional human being.
 
2013-04-08 08:10:05 AM  
At least her spiritual successor is still here to guide us.

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2013-04-08 08:10:06 AM  
it's time for that Thatcher Death Party then, I've been waiting a LONG time.
Back in the 90s I think consensus was that we'd all just congregate in central London and go crazy, but since then the Met have shown they don't really stand for that sort of thing so much. According to Google the party is 6pm the first Saturday after the event. I assume that London will be very much on lockdown this weekend now.
 
2013-04-08 08:10:31 AM  
 "I owe nothing to women's lib."

 "The feminists hate me, don't they? And I don't blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison."

What a shiat she was.
 
2013-04-08 08:10:31 AM  
I think Lemmy best sums up my feelings on this matter.

link
 
2013-04-08 08:10:41 AM  
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money.

That's not the case with militarism, though.
 
2013-04-08 08:10:54 AM  
Buhbye
 
2013-04-08 08:11:24 AM  

neversubmit: I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.

Because she has moved on to a better place?


So, that wouldn't include Leeds or Hull?
 
2013-04-08 08:11:49 AM  
I have a feeling some parts of England will go into mourning, and other parts will be celebrating.
 
2013-04-08 08:11:54 AM  
 
2013-04-08 08:11:55 AM  
I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.
 
2013-04-08 08:11:55 AM  
May her ideas die with her.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:09 AM  
I am reminded of Frankie Boyle:

"Her state funeral is going to cost nine million pounds. For that much money, you could buy a shovel and give it to every single Scottish person and we'd dig a hole deep enough that you could deliver her to Satan personally."
 
2013-04-08 08:12:10 AM  
Meryl Streep needs to complete her role.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:22 AM  
Huh. I thought she was already dead.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:28 AM  
Wait... Margaret Thatcher was still alive? I thought she died like 15 years ago.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:30 AM  
I'm guessing there will be mixed reactions to her passing.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:40 AM  
Our long national nightmare is over
 
2013-04-08 08:12:47 AM  
We're on our second bottle of champagne in this household.
Good riddance & a heartfelt fark you for what you did to our country.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:59 AM  
I had a Thatcher boxing puppet many years ago. Whether you agreed with her politics or not, she was a tough lady.
 
2013-04-08 08:13:31 AM  

greentea1985: I have a feeling very few parts of England will go into mourning, most will be celebrating.


.
 
2013-04-08 08:13:54 AM  
bye, you nasty old biatch
 
2013-04-08 08:14:09 AM  
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Rust in Peace was a Megadeth album.

Stupid subby
 
2013-04-08 08:14:15 AM  
Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.
 
2013-04-08 08:14:22 AM  
RIP Maggie
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2013-04-08 08:14:51 AM  
I expect this thread will contain the usual amounts of dignity and respect for the recently departed.

HotWingConspiracy: At least her spiritual successor is still here to guide us.

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Jackson Herring: What a shiat she was.


Right again.
 
2013-04-08 08:14:57 AM  
Well, this should be a nice calm respectful thread.

RIP Maggie, you provided a backbone when it was needed....
 
2013-04-08 08:15:01 AM  

nekom: A huge force in history, whether you liked or hated her politics.  May she rest in peace.


I won't be crass. I'm from another country and I was a child at that time, anyway. But her kind of divisive, inhumane politics influenced even my fair country.
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RIP Kreacher

 
2013-04-08 08:15:05 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:15:09 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:15:40 AM  
 
2013-04-08 08:15:43 AM  

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.


I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...
 
2013-04-08 08:15:44 AM  

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.


They were falling without her help, most of the threat of the USSR by that point was mis-intel by the CIA.
 
2013-04-08 08:15:53 AM  
Libderp ludicrous speed!
 
2013-04-08 08:16:08 AM  

DubtodaIll: She had quite a life, certainly an exceptional human being.


Yep
 
2013-04-08 08:16:11 AM  

NYCNative: I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.


lmao
 
2013-04-08 08:16:18 AM  
Just wait until she rises again three days from now, just like Zombie Reagan.
 
2013-04-08 08:16:23 AM  

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies.


No, she didn't. Neither did Reagan.

And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.
 
2013-04-08 08:16:36 AM  
I did not see that coming.
 
2013-04-08 08:16:41 AM  

GoldSpider: I expect this thread will contain the usual amounts of dignity and respect for the recently departed.

HotWingConspiracy: At least her spiritual successor is still here to guide us.

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Jackson Herring: What a shiat she was.

Right again.


Thatcher is never going to sleep with you bro
 
2013-04-08 08:16:49 AM  
So, who won the pool?
 
2013-04-08 08:17:04 AM  
RIP Maggie
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2013-04-08 08:17:06 AM  
"When England was a kingdom, we had a king. When we were an empire, we had an emperor. Now we're a country, and we have Margaret Thatcher."
 
2013-04-08 08:17:20 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:17:38 AM  
Time to tramp the dirt down.
 
2013-04-08 08:18:00 AM  
Quite a few pubs in the North and the West Britain will be celebrating tonight, I suspect.
 
2013-04-08 08:18:16 AM  
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RIP

 
2013-04-08 08:18:19 AM  
Shame. Was a good movie.
 
2013-04-08 08:18:21 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:18:39 AM  
Fare thee well, you solid biatch. The world is a better place because of your work.

She had more balls then most of the men in politics today.
 
2013-04-08 08:18:56 AM  

NYCNative: I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.


Well, I'm sure all your punk rock friends were very knowledgeable about world politics.
 
2013-04-08 08:19:04 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:19:46 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:19:48 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Thatcher is never going to sleep with you bro


Not now, I suppose.
 
2013-04-08 08:19:49 AM  
Elvis Costello has his work cut out for him.
 
2013-04-08 08:19:53 AM  
Pour concrete over the casket. You can never be too sure.
 
2013-04-08 08:20:00 AM  
I think she's had dementia for quite a long time, probably is why folks assumed she'd already passed.

Anywhos...RIP?
 
2013-04-08 08:20:03 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:20:17 AM  
Rest in peace, thatcher of roofs.
 
2013-04-08 08:20:32 AM  
Lazy idiots of GB don't even realize that she was one of the best things that ever happened to this pathetic island.
 
2013-04-08 08:21:07 AM  
Show the dead no respect they did not deserve in life. I will speak ill of the dead, and more of her than of most.
 
2013-04-08 08:21:09 AM  

VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...


Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.
 
2013-04-08 08:21:09 AM  

Purple_Jack: http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/


Nice. That would have made a much better headline.  "The Lady's not returning."
 
2013-04-08 08:21:24 AM  
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Rot you withered ol' c0o0ont!
 
2013-04-08 08:21:24 AM  

markfara: And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.


They are no where near the global player they once used to be and lack total exerted control over many of their border nation states.

I'd say that's pretty much the definition of fallen.
 
2013-04-08 08:21:28 AM  
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RIP Teri Hatcher

 
2013-04-08 08:21:46 AM  
It's like momma always said...if you can't say something nice, post RIP meme pics.


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RIP MARGARINE HATCHER

 
2013-04-08 08:22:03 AM  
I hope they checked her breath with a mirror to make sure she's dead. And her reflection.
 
2013-04-08 08:22:09 AM  
R.I.P.  Mrs. Thatcher.  You may not have saved your country, but you put off it's decline by a decade or more.
 
2013-04-08 08:22:18 AM  
What have Thatcher and Savile got in common?

-They both screwed miners.
 
2013-04-08 08:22:32 AM  

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.


Don't recall them ever launching any of them...
 
2013-04-08 08:22:45 AM  
Thatcher refused to meet the union's demands and compared the miners' dispute to the Falklands conflict two years earlier, declaring in a speech in 1984: "We had to fight the enemy without in the Falklands. We always have to be aware of the enemy within, which is much more difficult to fight and more dangerous to liberty."

What an indescribable shiat she was.
 
2013-04-08 08:22:50 AM  
PAARRTTAAYYY!!
 
2013-04-08 08:23:03 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: markfara: And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.

They are no where near the global player they once used to be and lack total exerted control over many of their border nation states.

I'd say that's pretty much the definition of fallen.


But again, Thatcher had nothing to do with it, her actions did nothing to hasten their fall.  They were spending over 1/3 of their GDP on defense, it was completely unsustainable.
 
2013-04-08 08:23:19 AM  
At least Reagan now has some company in hell.
 
2013-04-08 08:23:56 AM  
This snippet from the CBC article about her death says all you really need to know about her:

"Once in office Thatcher slashed the tax rates for the wealthiest Britons, increased the value-added tax (VAT), reduced government subsidies and began to sell off state-owned enterprises and public housing."

Bye-bye, you short sighted conservative twit.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:08 AM  

VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...


Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:13 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:24:26 AM  

GoldSpider: HotWingConspiracy: Thatcher is never going to sleep with you bro

Not now, I suppose.


Well, it's not like she's going to say "No" at this point.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:27 AM  

Purple_Jack: What have Thatcher and Savile got in common?

-They both screwed miners.


Ok, now THAT'S FUNNY.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:39 AM  
Thatcher's Britain. Thatcher's bloody Britain! Look at me. I'm young, I'm pretty. I've got 5 O Levels. Bloomin' good grades as well, considering I didn't do a sod of work cause I'm so hard. And look at me now! Homeless, cold, and prostitute.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:57 AM  
Get the champagne out.

Burn, you witch.
 
2013-04-08 08:25:01 AM  

Eskurido: This snippet from the CBC article about her death says all you really need to know about her:

"Once in office Thatcher slashed the tax rates for the wealthiest Britons, increased the value-added tax (VAT), reduced government subsidies and began to sell off state-owned enterprises and public housing."

Bye-bye, you short sighted conservative twit.


Yeah, she and Reagan started the whole craze of "trickling down" on the poor.
 
2013-04-08 08:25:01 AM  
This coont does not deserve a News Flash.
 
2013-04-08 08:25:10 AM  
Commies will be celebrating tonight.
 
2013-04-08 08:25:55 AM  
Thanks for stealing my milk.

/Still bitter
 
2013-04-08 08:25:58 AM  
Yikes!  It sounds like there are a few people here that weren't quite fond of her.
 
2013-04-08 08:26:01 AM  

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.


Nuclear weapons already in their arsenal for several decades?
 
2013-04-08 08:26:38 AM  
Commies: "If only she would have let us screw up the world just right, we'd be fine right now. No one ever did it right".
 
2013-04-08 08:26:46 AM  

Sybarite: Thatcher's Britain. Thatcher's bloody Britain! Look at me. I'm young, I'm pretty. I've got 5 O Levels. Bloomin' good grades as well, considering I didn't do a sod of work cause I'm so hard. And look at me now! Homeless, cold, and prostitute.


"I know all about dirt when I was a kid I had to eat it

And I'm never going back, do you here me ?"

"What ?"

"I SAID I'M NEVER GOING BACK"
 
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2013-04-08 08:26:53 AM  

GoldSpider: HotWingConspiracy: Thatcher is never going to sleep with you bro

Not now, I suppose.


I hear she just became available.  If you have a shovel.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:06 AM  
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RIP Thatched Roof
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 
2013-04-08 08:27:12 AM  

Hagbardr: neversubmit: I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.

Because she has moved on to a better place?

So, that wouldn't include Leeds or Hull?


Is that where they are going to plant her? I think she should be buried in the Falklands.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:13 AM  

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.


So doesn't that mean they were evil by your measure?
 
2013-04-08 08:27:13 AM  
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RIP Ironman

 
2013-04-08 08:27:16 AM  
Cameron has announced she's getting a funeral of the level a king or queen.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:31 AM  

Eskurido: This snippet from the CBC article about her death says all you really need to know about her:

"Once in office Thatcher slashed the tax rates for the wealthiest Britons, increased the value-added tax (VAT), reduced government subsidies and began to sell off state-owned enterprises and public housing."

Bye-bye, you short sighted conservative twit.


And those tax breaks were funded by selling off nationalised utilities - gas, rail, etc...

Which now take more in subsidies (well, rail anyway) than they would have the state cost to run, yet pay out ever increasing dividends with ever increasing prices. It really would have been cheaper and simpler, never mind more honest, to just tax everyone an additional amount, divvy it up among those rich enough to buy shares in the scheme, and let the state carry on running these things.

But it/s not class war when the rich plunder the poor, is it?
 
2013-04-08 08:27:41 AM  

PseUdononymous Savagery: Yikes!  It sounds like there are a few people here that weren't quite fond of her.


It's fark. They still believe in antiquated things, like communism.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:55 AM  

Halli: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Nuclear weapons already in their arsenal for several decades?


Yeah. That they could have launched at any time.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:59 AM  
RIP
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2013-04-08 08:28:03 AM  
This would be the perfect time to link to Frankie Boyle on Thatcher's Funeral....
 
2013-04-08 08:28:06 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: But again, Thatcher had nothing to do with it, her actions did nothing to hasten their fall. They were spending over 1/3 of their GDP on defense, it was completely unsustainable.


Perhaps not directly, but the actions of the many western nations which forced that hand into spending for said defense helped speed things along.

Speaking of spending a third on defense, that sounds familiar for some reason.
 
2013-04-08 08:28:07 AM  
Someone wants attention.
 
2013-04-08 08:28:22 AM  

Jackson Herring:  "I owe nothing to women's lib."

 "The feminists hate me, don't they? And I don't blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison."

What a shiat she was.


The moment we start dividing ourselves into blacks OR whites, men OR women, Christians OR Musslemen when regarding laws or communications the polarities are set to begin some kind of war, hatred, or abuse.
 
2013-04-08 08:28:28 AM  
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Not dead
 
2013-04-08 08:28:47 AM  
It is somehow comforting to know that she was survived by Nelson Mandela
 
2013-04-08 08:28:53 AM  

Marine1: Halli: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Nuclear weapons already in their arsenal for several decades?

Yeah. That they could have launched at any time.


Man good thing the Soviet Union didn't exist before the 80's then.
 
2013-04-08 08:28:58 AM  
RIP, warmonger.
 
2013-04-08 08:29:08 AM  
So I guess none of you find power sexy?
 
2013-04-08 08:29:44 AM  
Am I really the first to go here? Margret Thatcher naked on a cold day.
 
2013-04-08 08:29:50 AM  
Eh... Whatever. Strangers die every day.

Felt the same way about her I felt about Reagan. Just another plutocratic asshole, who didn't give a shiat about people like my family and I.
 
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RIP THAT CHER

 
2013-04-08 08:30:00 AM  
 
2013-04-08 08:30:10 AM  
Marine1:

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Ahhh the testosterone-filled fantasies of a conservative.

You do realize that the same exact thing could be said about the USSR right? Because of their leaders, Reagan and Thatcher were too afraid to launch their nukes.
 
2013-04-08 08:30:12 AM  
I remember how disgusted I became whenever I saw her standing with Ronald Reagannnnzzzap.

/two peas in a pod
//Stateside
 
2013-04-08 08:30:25 AM  

digistil: Cameron has announced she's getting a funeral of the level a king or queen.


No, it will be at the level of a Princess.

Blair would get the same when he finally pays for his shiat as well
 
2013-04-08 08:30:28 AM  
Looks like this is the thread where all the Argentinians are hanging out.
 
2013-04-08 08:30:42 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: But again, Thatcher had nothing to do with it, her actions did nothing to hasten their fall. They were spending over 1/3 of their GDP on defense, it was completely unsustainable.

Perhaps not directly, but the actions of the many western nations which forced that hand into spending for said defense helped speed things along.

Speaking of spending a third on defense, that sounds familiar for some reason.


Actually, that is directly impacting the fall of the Soviet Union. If the Soviets had been left to their own devices, they would have spent money on other things. The West knew that their economies were more dynamic; they used that to their advantage.
 
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My favorite song lyrics about Margaret Thatcher, from Julian Cope.

"Now's a time of leper skin
How it ends, how it begins
Now's a time when patience flies
The fare-the-well that means fark OFF."

I hope we get the celebration over quickly because it makes me sick.
 
2013-04-08 08:32:16 AM  

Norfolking Chance: digistil: Cameron has announced she's getting a funeral of the level a king or queen.

No, it will be at the level of a Princess.

Blair would get the same when he finally pays for his shiat as well


Watching BBC right now and they've reported otherwise.
 
2013-04-08 08:32:39 AM  

Marine1: Actually, that is directly impacting the fall of the Soviet Union. If the Soviets had been left to their own devices, they would have spent money on other things. The West knew that their economies were more dynamic; they used that to their advantage.


Yeah Team B was hilariously wrong about the Soviet Union. They were crumbling long before the 80's.
 
2013-04-08 08:32:58 AM  
In which mine will they be tossing her corpse?
 
2013-04-08 08:33:21 AM  
I loved her.  I always will.  She chose her battles well. Not only as woman in a mans world of politics did she hold her ground, but in an era of such ego and hubris, she made lambs out the ludicrous. 

The world lost a really wonderful woman today, and I can't see any person in the near future, male or female, who could even begin to replicate her prowess. 

*Cries*
 
2013-04-08 08:33:46 AM  

Free Radical: Marine1:

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Ahhh the testosterone-filled fantasies of a conservative.

You do realize that the same exact thing could be said about the USSR right? Because of their leaders, Reagan and Thatcher were too afraid to launch their nukes.


Except they're the ones who collapsed. Other than that... you're dead-on right.

It was a "Cold War", and yes, the Soviet Union lost. Why? Because Western leaders (including, yes, Margaret Thatcher) enacted policies to put the Soviet Union at a disadvantage.
 
2013-04-08 08:33:52 AM  
Yeah, thanks for destroying the social fabric of this country, selling off the vast state assets owned by the taxpayer to your big-business donors, destroying manufacturing industry and cosseting the banking mafia, sending London pigs to club striking miners in my town, encouraging greed and selfishness. Saved by a convenient war.
 
2013-04-08 08:33:55 AM  
My wife and I were just getting out of a movie (I don't remember which one) when we walked past a poster for Iron Lady.  I made an offhand comment that it was basically Iron Man, but with a girl.  My wife did not know that Margaret Thatcher was known as the iron lady, so we went to see Iron Lady.  To my wife's credit she didn't complain at all during the movie.  She said she figured out that it wasn't about a girl Iron Man about 2 minutes in.  She did say that, in the future, she would look up any movies I wanted to see that she didn't already know about.

This was the poster.

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2013-04-08 08:34:34 AM  
The only rebuttal you need offer someone who says "women cannot be good leaders" is a slap across the face with a rolled-up:
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2013-04-08 08:34:36 AM  
As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.
 
2013-04-08 08:34:42 AM  
A reminder to those naive enough to defend her:

She deliberately provoked a war under false pretenses that cost thousands of lives. (Little known fact: Britain has now lost as many Falklands veterans to suicide as it lost in the fighting itself).

She deliberately drove Britain into recession to destroy the unions and to "prove" her absurd Reaganist economic policies.

She sold off national assets and used the money not for the benefit of the country but to line the pockets of political supporters.

She practiced the politics of authoritarianism, populism, xenophobia, nationalism, and class division.

And as the most powerful woman in politics, she kicked away the ladder for those below her, having fewer women in her cabinets than any prime minister in modern history.

Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.
 
2013-04-08 08:34:57 AM  
I find it ironic that punk died years before Maggie did.

/Maggie! Maggie, you coont!
 
2013-04-08 08:35:06 AM  

digistil: Norfolking Chance: digistil: Cameron has announced she's getting a funeral of the level a king or queen.

No, it will be at the level of a Princess.

Blair would get the same when he finally pays for his shiat as well

Watching BBC right now and they've reported otherwise.


From the BBC

Breaking NewsDowning Street says Lady Thatcher will be accorded the same status of funeral as the Queen Mother and Princess Diana, but will not lie in state, in accordance with her own wishes.

So the same as Dianna or the Queen Mother and not a King or Queen
 
2013-04-08 08:35:23 AM  
Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.
 
2013-04-08 08:35:39 AM  
IMDB : "Ian McDiarmid to play young Thatcher in bio pick of the late PM as a teen."
 
2013-04-08 08:36:16 AM  
Brezhnev took Afganistan, and Begin took Beruit, and Galtieri, he took the union jack, and Maggie over lunch one day took a cruiser (with all hands) apparently to make him give it back... good times.
 
2013-04-08 08:36:24 AM  

Purple_Jack: What have Thatcher and Savile got in common?

-They both screwed miners.


Oh, well played.  Well played.
 
2013-04-08 08:36:45 AM  

Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.


iswydt
 
d23 [BareFark]
2013-04-08 08:36:48 AM  

Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.


I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.
 
2013-04-08 08:37:43 AM  
Ding ♫ dong ♫ the witch is dead!! ♪

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/ now with added YES!

Also contains a link to a Spotify playlist for those who are celebrating
 
2013-04-08 08:38:11 AM  

d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.


I'm waiting for Bruce Robinson to weigh in.
 
2013-04-08 08:38:27 AM  

d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.


I don't think he had much love for the old bird.
 
2013-04-08 08:38:29 AM  
Also, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
 
2013-04-08 08:38:37 AM  
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                       RIP
 
2013-04-08 08:38:54 AM  

jamspoon: Ding ♫ dong ♫ the witch is dead!! ♪

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/ now with added YES!

Also contains a link to a Spotify playlist for those who are celebrating


THANKS! I POSTED THAT ALREADY!
 
d23 [BareFark]
2013-04-08 08:39:05 AM  

theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.


I am not "dancing on her grave" today.  Every human death is a tragedy, especially to that particular family.  The problem here is she did some pretty horrible stuff in her time.  Even worse than Reagan, because he was a bumbler.  She did what she did on purpose and I am not a fan.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:00 AM  
Well...Bye.jpeg

What a piece of excremental hideous evil poison she was.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:06 AM  

theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.


Pretty much this.

I'm not even bothered by the 'dance on your grave' behavior as much as the 'we did it but how dare you do it' behavior.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:21 AM  
I was brought up with the philosophy that if you can't say something nice about someone, say nothing at all.

So this is me saying sweet fark all.

In other news, the queue of people in the UK who are now saving their urine in large bottles to pour over her grave has already begun.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:26 AM  
Well, bye then.

She and Reagan can eat dick sandwiches in hell.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:49 AM  
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How I will always remember her.
 
2013-04-08 08:41:18 AM  
on the minus side :
she trashed our industry and manufacturing base and left us at the beck and call of a bunch of odious bankers. for that may she rot in hell.

on the plus side:
she gave Argentina a bloody nose. (well our armed forces did that) but i doubt Labour would have sent the taskforce south.

I truly dread the week of sanctimonious drivel that will now follow.
 
2013-04-08 08:41:21 AM  
I love all the hate in this thread... justifies my thoughts on (the lack of) humanity. Even when Obama dies, I won't be hateful..

/I'm a better person than any Repub or Dem
 
2013-04-08 08:41:34 AM  
Norfolking Chance:

From the BBC

Breaking NewsDowning Street says Lady Thatcher will be accorded the same status of funeral as the Queen Mother and Princess Diana, but will not lie in state, in accordance with her own wishes.

So the same as Dianna or the Queen Mother and not a King or Queen


Doh, you're right. Thanks for correcting me.
 
2013-04-08 08:41:59 AM  

doyner: Looks like this is the thread where all the Argentinians are hanging out.


You can turn your Phalanx off. These are not the Exocets you're looking for.
 
2013-04-08 08:42:24 AM  
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Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day! Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day!
 
2013-04-08 08:42:31 AM  

d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.


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This is how Roger Waters is feeling. This is how Roger Waters is ALWAYS feeling.
 
2013-04-08 08:42:48 AM  

NYCNative: I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.


This pretty much sums up 99% of the opinions people have of Margaret Thatcher they are based on the second hand thoughts of people vastly unqualified to make an intelligent or relevant judgement in the first place.
 
2013-04-08 08:42:56 AM  
Considering the mess Britain was in '78-79, can you blame the voters for tossing Callaghan out on his ass?

Protip for coal miners: don't go on strike during the winter.
 
2013-04-08 08:43:26 AM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: markfara: And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.

They are no where near the global player they once used to be and lack total exerted control over many of their border nation states.

I'd say that's pretty much the definition of fallen.


Except for that time they beat the f*ck out of Georgia because they could. Or the time when they beat the f*ck out of the Chechens. Or when they threaten to shut off the gas lines when any former Soviet satellite b*tches about Gazprom's rates. Or when Belarus is happily acting as Putin's pet.

Russia wields plenty of power still in Eastern Europe and Asia. It's mainly soft power now. Putin is smarter than the Commies. He gave up that whole revolution bullsh*t, and realized what matters to people is money, plain and simple. So he's set himself up to control the money.
 
2013-04-08 08:43:38 AM  
Hairspray companies fall into deep depression.
 
2013-04-08 08:43:43 AM  
A good movie in here life:   GLC: The Carnage Continues...
 
2013-04-08 08:44:03 AM  
She probably would have reached 100 if she'd drunk more milk.
 
2013-04-08 08:44:08 AM  

clintster: Not dead


Dammit!
 
2013-04-08 08:44:19 AM  
If Clueless George had waited a few weeks he could have sold round two of the most socially divisive policy in British post-war history as a loving tribute to Mrs. T's corrosive legacy.

Lord Summerisle: Yeah, thanks for destroying the social fabric of this country, selling off the vast state assets owned by the taxpayer to your big-business donors, destroying manufacturing industry and cosseting the banking mafia, sending London pigs to club striking miners in my town, encouraging greed and selfishness. Saved by a convenient war.


But aside from that?
 
2013-04-08 08:44:35 AM  

Demetrius: d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.

I don't think he had much love for the old bird.


But she so bravely waved the boys goodbye, again and again...
 
2013-04-08 08:44:47 AM  

digistil: Norfolking Chance:

From the BBC

Breaking NewsDowning Street says Lady Thatcher will be accorded the same status of funeral as the Queen Mother and Princess Diana, but will not lie in state, in accordance with her own wishes.

So the same as Dianna or the Queen Mother and not a King or Queen

Doh, you're right. Thanks for correcting me.


The Queen Mum WAS a queen.  Just sayin'
 
2013-04-08 08:44:57 AM  
Even if she has a set of letters that don't get published until after she passes, I really hope the Queen serves history and leaves us a better understanding of what discord if any developed between her and the Thatcher Ministry.  I wonder if she became frustrated with Thatcher's policies or just her attitude towards people.

Marine1: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: But again, Thatcher had nothing to do with it, her actions did nothing to hasten their fall. They were spending over 1/3 of their GDP on defense, it was completely unsustainable.

Perhaps not directly, but the actions of the many western nations which forced that hand into spending for said defense helped speed things along.

Speaking of spending a third on defense, that sounds familiar for some reason.

Actually, that is directly impacting the fall of the Soviet Union. If the Soviets had been left to their own devices, they would have spent money on other things. The West knew that their economies were more dynamic; they used that to their advantage.


The biggest debate in my undergrad major (an odd hybrid of military history and national security) was, "Was the Revolution in Military Affairs responsible for the end of the Cold War, and can it be the foundation of a viable military doctrine for the future?"

/Our consensus in 2004 was "Yes, to a certain extent" and "Yes, if you are willing to by into what Donald Rumsfeld says about numbers being irrelevant."
//We had almost wrapped up for the semester when the escalation in Fallujah began; that should have been the sign for those of us that supported the war that our narrative did not line up with reality.
 
2013-04-08 08:44:57 AM  
Ah, the only true justice: age.

The old crazy bastard of a woman that she was finally got her due justice.

May she go down forever as being known as the primary reason for UK political problems for the last 30 years, and may her family receive all the spite that she earned plus interest.
 
2013-04-08 08:45:38 AM  
I won't celebrate the death of another human being, but I certainly won't mourn her or the policies she represented.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:03 AM  

Hagbardr: neversubmit: I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.

Because she has moved on to a better place?

So, that wouldn't include Leeds or Hull?


Hey now, don't go knocking Hull. It has one nice square in that city! Leeds, not so much.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:15 AM  

Ecobuckeye: Demetrius: d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.

I don't think he had much love for the old bird.

But she so bravely waved the boys goodbye, again and again...


Should we shout?  Should we scream?  What happened to the postwar dream?
 
2013-04-08 08:46:16 AM  
Good luck now, and fark ya.

Nasty piece of work.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:18 AM  
They could bury her in one of Britain's many derelict coal mines in the spirit of irony or sumpn'.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:32 AM  
Sic semper tyrannis
 
2013-04-08 08:46:36 AM  

randomjsa: theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.

Pretty much this.

I'm not even bothered by the 'dance on your grave' behavior as much as the 'we did it but how dare you do it' behavior.


I'm all for dancing on her grave, go nuts!  Just don't get mad when someone dances on yours.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:44 AM  
Stay classy libs.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:56 AM  

theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.


I have little sympathy for people who's life goal appears to make the world a worse place.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:57 AM  
oh boo hoo hoo stop pointing out how clownishly evil the recently departed was :(
 
2013-04-08 08:47:11 AM  
RIP Mrs Thatcher

There are too few of your ilk, and I fear for our children's future because of that void.
 
2013-04-08 08:47:26 AM  

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.


It was Carter that moved a bunch of medium range missiles to Europe which scared the crap out of the Soviets.
 
2013-04-08 08:47:48 AM  
Party time for England now that the lizard queen puppet meister has finally croaked. Ahhhhhhhh. a joyous day indeed!
 
2013-04-08 08:47:56 AM  
guys stop acknowledging objective observable reality, it's mean
 
2013-04-08 08:48:32 AM  
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                    RIP Steel Curtain
 
2013-04-08 08:48:39 AM  

muck4doo: Stay classy libs.


Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.
 
2013-04-08 08:48:41 AM  
Imma let you finish, but I just wanna say, the exploited wrote the best tribute to Margaret Thatcher of all time.

http://youtu.be/EwnkFlVRCZc

Enjoy!
 
2013-04-08 08:49:01 AM  
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2013-04-08 08:49:06 AM  
None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Shame on you to all who express joy over the death of any human being.
 
2013-04-08 08:49:37 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Eskurido: This snippet from the CBC article about her death says all you really need to know about her:

"Once in office Thatcher slashed the tax rates for the wealthiest Britons, increased the value-added tax (VAT), reduced government subsidies and began to sell off state-owned enterprises and public housing."

Bye-bye, you short sighted conservative twit.

Yeah, she and Reagan started the whole craze of "trickling down" on the poor.


Plenty of stuff is "trickling down" on the poor, it's just that none of it is money.

/think urine from a great height
 
2013-04-08 08:49:56 AM  
RIP Kitty Scratcher

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2013-04-08 08:50:06 AM  
No.10 has gone into absolute overdrive to pump out news to be buried today.
 
2013-04-08 08:50:44 AM  
She will arise in the Zombie Apocalypse and Zombie Thatcher and Zombie Reagan will again terrorize the world with brain eating and deficit spending.

Evil never dies, it only sleeps.
 
2013-04-08 08:50:47 AM  
A lot of people don't remember the state the country was in when she came into power. The previous Labour government had been crippled by their own unions. The unions and Arthur Scargill were massively deleterious to the country. They had to be stopped. Also there seems to be some opinion that the Falklands war was either of her own manufacture, or a fortuitous something that saved her. Both are obviously wrong. You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies, yet he is one PM who you could justify taking to court for the shiat he did. The others were better at hiding it.
 
2013-04-08 08:51:08 AM  
People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.
 
2013-04-08 08:51:13 AM  

Jackson Herring: What an indescribable shiat she was.


I don't feel much sympathy for the miners. The NUM was a militant highly  political union which used its power and size to threaten democratically elected governments. They resisted all attempts to reform their industry and make it more profitable and in the end things came to a head.

Industrial relations reform was probably one of the better things the Conservatives did during that time.
 
2013-04-08 08:52:05 AM  
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R.I.P IRON BATCHER

 
2013-04-08 08:52:16 AM  

doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.


You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.
 
2013-04-08 08:52:33 AM  

Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies


Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?
 
2013-04-08 08:53:09 AM  

HoustonNick: None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Shame on you to all who express joy over the death of any human being.


You will be mocked for this.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:18 AM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing

Hatred of Margaret Thatcher is old news.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:28 AM  

muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.


Wow.  Good job alienating someone who was agreeing with you.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:40 AM  
Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

/dumbass


From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:42 AM  

Gulper Eel: Considering the mess Britain was in '78-79, can you blame the voters for tossing Callaghan out on his ass?

Protip for coal miners: don't go on strike during the winter.


You can't completely blame the miners, though; trying to control inflation through wage reduction is going to piss people off.

Though if they knew that their strike was going to result in the implementation of neo-liberal economics, they might have been willing to make a few concessions.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:47 AM  

muck4doo: Stay classy libs.


The Libs are in power with the Tories. Where have YOU been the last few years?
 
2013-04-08 08:53:51 AM  
czetie:Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.

As someone who was forced to drink a carton of milk every morning despite it making me feel sick every single day this is the one thing she did right!

/ Now diagnosed mildly lactose intolerant
// School grades went up when they stopped poisoning my daily!
 
2013-04-08 08:53:57 AM  
She destroyed the mining industry for ideological reasons. We now import coal... From Australia.
 
2013-04-08 08:54:03 AM  
Well, at least she'll be warm where she's headed.
 
2013-04-08 08:55:03 AM  

digistil: At least Reagan now has some company in hell.


I said a similar thing on fark when Reagan died and I was banninated for 24 hours.  Back then you were not allowed to imagine right wing 80s leaders burning in hell on fark.  LOL
 
2013-04-08 08:55:10 AM  
Please let Rupert Murdoch be next.
 
2013-04-08 08:56:46 AM  

EyeballKid: Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies

Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?


Yes, but try to act surprised, you ruined it now.
 
2013-04-08 08:57:36 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.

I have little sympathy for people who's life goal appears to make the world a worse place.


Well, that certainly is objective.  I understand you probably didn't like her policies, but making the blanket assumption that those policies display a specific INTENT to make the world a worse place it the kind of mental gymnastics that make political compromise nearly impossible these days. When people on the right, for example, accuse Obama of intentionally trying to destroy America, we on the left roll our eyes at the absurdity of such a thing. I, for one at least, can acknowledge the same absurdity in the opposite direction.
 
2013-04-08 08:58:25 AM  

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.


That's the same thing the Reagan felaters all say here in the states, and it's BS here too.

Reagan and Thatcher had exactly as much to do with the fall of the Soviets that every other president and PM.  The soviets fell due to their own corruption, mismanagement, and ill treatment of their people.
 
2013-04-08 08:58:42 AM  

Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.


The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?
 
2013-04-08 08:58:56 AM  

Quinsisdos: Thanks for stealing my milk.



/thread
 
2013-04-08 08:58:56 AM  

EyeballKid: Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies

Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?


Fantastic retort.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:04 AM  
This thread is a great way to see who's British. I never knew there were this many.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:12 AM  

Tomahawk513: randomjsa: theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.

Pretty much this.

I'm not even bothered by the 'dance on your grave' behavior as much as the 'we did it but how dare you do it' behavior.

I'm all for dancing on her grave, go nuts!  Just don't get mad when someone dances on yours.


Well, that's certainly another way to go. At least it's consistent.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:24 AM  

Norfolking Chance: People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.


No! You don't understand! Clearly the current global economic mess is purely the result of Thatchers policies!

If only Britain had ceded all legislative authority to Brussels and let the unions run the country, we'd be in a paradise!
 
2013-04-08 08:59:29 AM  
Even if you applauded her policies, even if you think that the miners' strike had to be broken by any means, even if you think privatisation is the only appropriate response to the use of state assets, there's still this:

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Margaret Thatcher with Augusto Pinochet, in 1999. Google 'DINA' if you don't know anything about Pinochet's time in government and/or you want to spend the day feeling nauseated.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:08 AM  

muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?


Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:08 AM  

doyner: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Wow.  Good job alienating someone who was agreeing with you.


Sorry is I misunderstood.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:14 AM  

swahnhennessy: Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.


exactly...not Waters interpretation....citations please.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2013-04-08 09:01:00 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: Norfolking Chance: People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.

No! You don't understand! Clearly the current global economic mess is purely the result of Thatchers policies!

If only Britain had ceded all legislative authority to Brussels and let the unions run the country, we'd be in a paradise!


Who said this?  Hint: no one.

We did say she played a part... but her philosophical butt-buddy Ronald Reagan sure helped...
 
2013-04-08 09:01:07 AM  

swahnhennessy: whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher,


You farked up old hag, ha ha, charade you are
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass
You're nearly a good laugh
Almost worth a quick grin
You like the feel of steel
You're hot stuff with a hat pin
And good fun with a hand gun
You're nearly a laugh
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Sounds like Thatcher to me.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:09 AM  

doyner: muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.


Yeah, I mus-understood. My apologies.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:09 AM  

doyner: muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.


watch the "personal attacks" now....name calling...
 
2013-04-08 09:01:19 AM  
Anyone who has not lived in Britain, especially under her rule, has no absolutely moral or intellectual right to say how wonderful she was.  That "woman" took a golden opportunity to heal a nation, and spent 11 years finding new and exciting ways to divide it as deeply and as often as she could.  The only reasons she stayed in power was by regularly promoting fear within her party in Parliament through Cabinet sackings and reshuffles, very weak and fluctuating opposition parties and leaders, and conveniently manufacturing a war through informed inertia when her poll numbers were at the lowest point, and later surfing off the back of that "victory" by calling an election a year early.

The general glee in the British public today is not liberals versus conservatives - it's painful memories finally being buried with their selfish, blinkered, misguided bully of an author and executor.  I do not believe in a deity, Heaven or Hell, but I, for one, am truly glad this chapter is over.  Bury her quickly, bury her somewhere anonymous to all except family, and bury her deep and face down in case she tries to dig her way back out.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:25 AM  
I'll always think of Bono's tribute to her at the Conspiracy of Hope - Amnesty International concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNASMkj0Dyc


"It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor..."
 
2013-04-08 09:02:23 AM  
Kudos to submitter on the headline.  Well played.

*golf clap*
 
2013-04-08 09:02:31 AM  
R.I.P.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2013-04-08 09:03:20 AM  

Haliburton Cummings: swahnhennessy: Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.

exactly...not Waters interpretation....citations please.


Well. despite how you interpret "Dogs," almost all of The Final Cut is directed at her and "Maggie" is invoked through many of the songs.

Last verse of "Not Now, John..."

fark all that we've got to get on with these
got to compete with the wily japanese
no need to worry about the vietnamese
got to bring the russian bear to his knees
well, maybe not the russian bear
maybe the swedes
we showed argentina
now let's go and show these
make us feel tough
and won't maggie be pleased
nah nah nah nah nah nah!
 
2013-04-08 09:03:52 AM  
Yes, the "dancing on their grave" attitude is an easy trap to fall into.

Yes, you are a better person for avoiding it.

No, wanting to ensure there's an accurate historical assessment of someone's record even in the immediate post-death period where the public "mourns" is not excessive; it's entirely appropriate, because that's when a person's legacy starts really getting heavily filtered.

Without giving the obvious examples, there are very rare occasions where someone so vile and whose existence diminished us as a species dies, and it's tough not to savor the end of their existence.  For many Vietnam veterans, that was McNamara or Westmoreland.  For Romanians, it was Ceaușescu.  For Doctor Who fans, it will be Michael Ian Grade.

I was too young and an American, so I don't have the first-hand perspective of the British who lived during her Ministry.  But from historical analysis, I can understand and sympathize with the people who today feel their country is better off without her.  I'm sure the same will happen the day Americans find out Dick Cheney has died.
 
2013-04-08 09:04:40 AM  
Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.

The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?


Because I'm sure not a single conservative expressed joy at Chavez's cancer and death. I was just fine doing a jig when bin Laden got killed and I'm just fine doing another now.
 
2013-04-08 09:04:43 AM  
Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?
 
2013-04-08 09:04:45 AM  
muck4doo:
Yeah, I mus-understood. My apologies.

We're cool.

While I don't necessarily agree with your charactarization of "libs" I certainly agree that dancing on Thatcher's grave is entirely tasteless.

Haliburton Cummings:
watch the "personal attacks" now....name calling...

No need to call the hall monitor.
 
2013-04-08 09:05:15 AM  

Lord Summerisle: Yeah, thanks for destroying the social fabric of this country, selling off the vast state assets owned by the taxpayer to your big-business donors, destroying manufacturing industry and cosseting the banking mafia, sending London pigs to club striking miners in my town, encouraging greed and selfishness. Saved by a convenient war.


THIS.
 
2013-04-08 09:05:36 AM  
Evil people do seem to live longer, don't they? .. Driven by bitterness I'd guess
 
2013-04-08 09:05:47 AM  

Haliburton Cummings: jamspoon: Ding ♫ dong ♫ the witch is dead!! ♪

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/ now with added YES!

Also contains a link to a Spotify playlist for those who are celebrating

THANKS! I POSTED THAT ALREADY!


Ah! Only checked thread for "witch is dead". I'm sure you'll forgive me on this glorious Spring day!
 
2013-04-08 09:05:47 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


Don't worry. Your vote has been posthumously converted by the Chuch of Latter Day Saints to a vote for Romney.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:04 AM  

Jackpot777: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

The Libs are in power with the Tories. Where have YOU been the last few years?


Welllll, it's a "We're not Labour" coalition.  Your statement generates an impression that the Lib Dems have something akin to "power", and I don't think that's an apt description for Clegg.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:11 AM  
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RIP WILLIAM THATCHER
 
2013-04-08 09:06:15 AM  
Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:28 AM  

Lord Summerisle: She destroyed the mining industry for ideological reasons. We now import coal... From Australia.


Scargill made it about ideology and he tried to bring down the government. In a domacracy he should of failed.

ElPresidente: Anyone who has not lived in Britain, especially under her rule, has no absolutely moral or intellectual right to say how wonderful she was.  That "woman" took a golden opportunity to heal a nation, and spent 11 years finding new and exciting ways to divide it as deeply and as often as she could.  The only reasons she stayed in power was by regularly promoting fear within her party in Parliament through Cabinet sackings and reshuffles, very weak and fluctuating opposition parties and leaders, and conveniently manufacturing a war through informed inertia when her poll numbers were at the lowest point, and later surfing off the back of that "victory" by calling an election a year early.

The general glee in the British public today is not liberals versus conservatives - it's painful memories finally being buried with their selfish, blinkered, misguided bully of an author and executor.  I do not believe in a deity, Heaven or Hell, but I, for one, am truly glad this chapter is over.  Bury her quickly, bury her somewhere anonymous to all except family, and bury her deep and face down in case she tries to dig her way back out.


We went from a society being held to ransom by the unions to a country being held to ransom by the bankers. One master being replaced by another.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:31 AM  
There's no hate like liberal hate!
 
2013-04-08 09:06:38 AM  

I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.


Any celebrations post 1990, seem a little unnecessary.
 
2013-04-08 09:07:18 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


Why, has Obama started posting on Fark?
 
d23 [BareFark]
2013-04-08 09:07:21 AM  

Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.


Who represents gangrene in this argument??  I'm pretty sure it's a WHO and not a WHAT.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2013-04-08 09:08:03 AM  

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.
 
2013-04-08 09:08:44 AM  
Finally. About 25 years too late.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:07 AM  

Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.


And smart doctors offer you a new prosthetic leg and get you back to work and a full life, not kick your injured arse out the hospital bed and tell you to get over it.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:40 AM  
Had no idea she was still alive.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:53 AM  

d23: Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.


Unfortunately, it's threads like these that give that kind of cliche traction.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:01 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


The idea that you voted for Obama is the funniest comment in this thread.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:07 AM  
RIP, Baroness.

I may not agree with... well, almost any of your policies, but you lived an interesting life.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:18 AM  
Does that mean we can drink milk again?
 
2013-04-08 09:10:20 AM  
My favorite song about Margaret Thatcher: Sinéad O'Connor - "Black Boys On Mopeds"
 
2013-04-08 09:10:20 AM  

yoursafewordisharder: Time to tramp the dirt down.


+1

/ was waiting for an Elvis Costello ref.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:30 AM  
You want to see what would have happened to the American car industry if the Republicans got their way during the Recession? Thatcher's Britain. Under her management of the country, all the car companies either went out of business or were sold to foreign interests.

BMW of Germany owns Rolls-Royce and Mini. Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation owns MG. Tata Motors of India owns Jaguar and Land Rover. Volkswagen of Germany owns Bentley. Rights to many currently dormant brands, including Austin, Riley, Rover and Triumph, are also owned by foreign companies.

Anything not screwed down, she made sure was sold off. She ran on a platform of the Labour Party "not working" because unemployment was at half a million, and then her policies sent it to over two million. Reaganomics was ran at a faster pace than in the USA, and the ruination happened quicker.

The icing on the cake was Black Wednesday. The Conservatives (and their press, spearheaded by Rupert Murdoch and The Sun newspaper) bet that their policies would help the currency. One currency speculator bet against their policies. That speculator made a billion dollars in one day betting against Thatcher / Reaganomics. His name? George Soros. And now you know why Murdoch hates him with a seething passion... Soros was able, in an eight-hour stretch, to take every right-wing talking point (and they're still in use today) and call the bluff. And win. Conservatives are sore losers and bad with money.
 
2013-04-08 09:11:00 AM  

d23: Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.

Who represents gangrene in this argument??  I'm pretty sure it's a WHO and not a WHAT.


It was more like cut off the entire leg when its only the foot that had gangrene but the knee had ligament damage that could be fixed.
 
2013-04-08 09:11:19 AM  
Hitchens reflected he'd supported Margaret Thatcher in the matter of the Falklands War and had written that he found her "surprisingly sexy." At one meeting, the woman who would become Britain's Prime Minister ordered the writer to bend over so she could spank him with a rolled up newspaper, afterwards mouthing the words "naughty boy!"
 
2013-04-08 09:11:54 AM  

Marine1: Free Radical: Marine1:

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Ahhh the testosterone-filled fantasies of a conservative.

You do realize that the same exact thing could be said about the USSR right? Because of their leaders, Reagan and Thatcher were too afraid to launch their nukes.

Except they're the ones who collapsed. Other than that... you're dead-on right.

It was a "Cold War", and yes, the Soviet Union lost. Why? Because Western leaders (including, yes, Margaret Thatcher) enacted policies to put the Soviet Union at a disadvantage.


You're right.. they outspent the Soviets in the arms race.. that's some noble politicking there, Lou.
...And old Gorbachev had nothing to do with it .. I mean it's not like the Soviet Union could have struggled on and got into more of an economic mess thereby cultivating further extremist politics making the world a more dangerous place *koff* North Korea *koff*
 
2013-04-08 09:11:58 AM  

d23: Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.


Don't be hatin' on me. I'm always right.
 
2013-04-08 09:12:25 AM  
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RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:13:06 AM  
shiat, make that 35. What year is it?
 
2013-04-08 09:13:06 AM  

czetie: A reminder to those naive enough to defend her:

She deliberately provoked a war under false pretenses that cost thousands of lives. (Little known fact: Britain has now lost as many Falklands veterans to suicide as it lost in the fighting itself).

She deliberately drove Britain into recession to destroy the unions and to "prove" her absurd Reaganist economic policies.

She sold off national assets and used the money not for the benefit of the country but to line the pockets of political supporters.

She practiced the politics of authoritarianism, populism, xenophobia, nationalism, and class division.

And as the most powerful woman in politics, she kicked away the ladder for those below her, having fewer women in her cabinets than any prime minister in modern history.

Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.


You left out the part where she exacerbated the war in Ireland and allowed political prisoners & prisoners of war to die in hunger strikes rather than follow the Geneva Convention.
 
2013-04-08 09:14:50 AM  
So, uh, where is the message from the Moderator reminding asshole Leftists to keep their comments respectful?


There's a reason why FARK.com is dying, you're just too stupid to figure it out.


Off to reddit! EABOD!
 
2013-04-08 09:15:19 AM  

Mrs.Sharpier: Hitchens reflected he'd supported Margaret Thatcher in the matter of the Falklands War and had written that he found her "surprisingly sexy." At one meeting, the woman who would become Britain's Prime Minister ordered the writer to bend over so she could spank him with a rolled up newspaper, afterwards mouthing the words "naughty boy!"


Hitchens was quite the warmonger at times, so I'm not surprised.
 
2013-04-08 09:15:26 AM  
There goes the manliest leader Great Britain has had since William Wallace.
 
2013-04-08 09:15:35 AM  
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2013-04-08 09:15:35 AM  

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


The Liberals are in a coalition government with the Conservatives.

Seriously: do they not give ANY facts in [f]right[ened] wing sources?
 
2013-04-08 09:15:55 AM  
What have we done?
Maggie, what have we done to England?
Should we shout?
Should we scream?
What happened to all of our post-war dreams?
Oh, Maggie, Maggie what did you do?
 
2013-04-08 09:15:59 AM  
Wow....too many bitter assholes in this thread.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:14 AM  
As an American who suffered through Reagan's death a few years back, I feel for you Brits. The next week will be filled with sanctimonious rubes praising her "toughness" and how she saved the world from the commies.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:22 AM  
To hell with respect for the dead. I reckon she's worth about 10 minutes of heartfelt grieving before the celebrations start. There will be fireworks tonight - I know people who have been saving them up for just this occasion. Heinous biatch. I hope they bury her head down so she can't crawl out of her hole and terrorise us any more. Good riddance you hag.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:27 AM  

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified by a person's actions and not the gender of the person they're in love with or the color of their skin.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:47 AM  

Crude: Off to reddit! EABOD!


So you can be downvoted into oblivion by 19 year old college liberals?
 
2013-04-08 09:17:13 AM  
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RIP Old Ironsides
 
2013-04-08 09:17:23 AM  
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2013-04-08 09:17:28 AM  

GeneralJim: R.I.P.  Mrs. Thatcher.  You may not have saved your country, but you put off it's decline by a decade or more.


It`s things like this that have made me decide that jim is just the online presence for a stand up comic
 
2013-04-08 09:17:55 AM  

Barnstormer: I'll always think of Bono's tribute to her at the Conspiracy of Hope - Amnesty International concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNASMkj0Dyc


"It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor..."


You probably know that that song was recorded by Bob Dylan fifteen years before she became Prime Minister, but just in case...

/honestly not trying to be snarky
//this time
 
2013-04-08 09:18:21 AM  
RIP Tenacious Maggie Patcher

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2013-04-08 09:18:47 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libderp ludicrous speed!


Those silly libs - favoring sanctions against South Africa for apartheid...wanting Augusto Pinochet tried for crimes against humanity...
 
2013-04-08 09:18:50 AM  

VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...


All she did was destroy the whole of British industry in the space of a decade and cripple the economy, military, and British power around the world, so she did a much better job at hurting the UK than the USSR ever did.
 
2013-04-08 09:19:04 AM  

poot42: RIP Mrs Thatcher

There are too few of your ilk, and I fear for our children's future because of that void.


Yes, they may have to drink free milk at school...
 
2013-04-08 09:20:03 AM  

HoustonNick: None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Shame on you to all who express joy over the death of any human being.



I was instrumental to the success of George W. Bush's Operation Iraqi Freedom. Just because you personally haven't done shiat for freedom doesn't mean nobody has. Speak for yourself, brougham. Not dancin' on her grave. But come on, man. There's maudlin and then there's you.
 
2013-04-08 09:20:26 AM  
RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:21:24 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libderp ludicrous speed!

Those silly libs - favoring sanctions against South Africa for apartheid...wanting Augusto Pinochet tried for crimes against humanity...


The same libs who admire Fidel Castro.
 
2013-04-08 09:21:39 AM  

DeArmondVI: Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.

The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Because I'm sure not a single conservative expressed joy at Chavez's cancer and death. I was just fine doing a jig when bin Laden got killed and I'm just fine doing another now.


I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Does demonizing an opponent really make your world more just and helpful? Do people really believe that their way is the only way, and everyone who disagrees with them are just trying to hurt the world? It sure seems like it on Fark. I understand where the left is coming from. I understand where the right is coming from. There are no perfect solutions, just knowing when to balance things at the right time. People who demonize Thatcher and Reagan make me sick. People who demonize Ted Kennedy and Obama make me sick. No one gets into office with the goal of making the world a worse place. Why don't some of you try having some class sometime? We all have seen what happens when nations all agree on one ideology and think it their fate to spread it on everyone else.
 
2013-04-08 09:22:15 AM  
RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:22:18 AM  
Rest in Peace.  Classy Lady
 
2013-04-08 09:22:36 AM  
I'm sure her and Bobby Sands are enjoying a nice, big meal together now.
 
2013-04-08 09:23:00 AM  
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RIP Hobbit Dancers
 
2013-04-08 09:23:47 AM  
...And the sun rose on a better world.
 
2013-04-08 09:23:50 AM  

doyner: We're cool.


you're cool with a guy who's entire point was "libs bad"?
 
2013-04-08 09:23:52 AM  

Slaxl: A lot of people don't remember the state the country was in when she came into power. The previous Labour government had been crippled by their own unions. The unions and Arthur Scargill were massively deleterious to the country. They had to be stopped.


By closing an entire industry, with knock-on effects to countless others, on the basis of spurious claims regarding its profitability? Yes, there were catastrophic labour disputes in the late 1970s, this was true across much of Europe. Other countries didn't demolish their energy independence to resolve the problem.

Also there seems to be some opinion that the Falklands war was either of her own manufacture, or a fortuitous something that saved her. Both are obviously wrong.

The latter claim is certainly not 'obviously wrong', Thatcher enjoyed a clear electoral uplift from Britain's success in the Falklands. Whether there was a conscious effort to provoke the war is debatable, but the withdrawl of Endurance despite Barker's warnings was a puzzling moment in post-war brinkmanship.

You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies

Yes you will and it will be richly deserved.
 
2013-04-08 09:24:13 AM