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(Gothamist)   Cop secretly records his supervisor ordering him to assume young black men are criminals in a) rural Georgia b) small town in Mississippi c) the Bronx   ( gothamist.com) divider line
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Snarfangel
2013-03-24 05:15:41 PM  
7 votes:
Too bad his supervisor didn't have a physics degree. He could have started with "Assume a spherical criminal..."
The Angry Hand of God
2013-03-24 08:20:47 PM  
2 votes:
The racist in me wants to say this is awesome.  The cop hater in me, wants the cop to be fired for being racist.  I am so confused.
MeanJean
2013-03-25 09:03:06 PM  
1 vote:
I can't believe that fark automatically wrote weeners in when I put down the words Boobies.
MeanJean
2013-03-25 08:35:37 PM  
1 vote:
Silly Jesus
That's what "controlled for" means.

And the sale of ice cream increases in the summer, and so do drownings. Even when race/income/location is controlled for! That must mean that ice cream causes drownings!
diaphoresis
2013-03-24 10:44:00 PM  
1 vote:

MeanJean: Diaphoresis

If it weren't for the black population, crime would be cut by 67%

I think this guy should be mayor.

Hmm.

I thought you were just trolling in the Swedish bus segregation thread, but it would seem you really are a racist. Blocked.


SUCCESS!  Been a while since I've managed to get favorited!ed by someone pretending to be morally superior.
AbbeySomeone
2013-03-24 09:42:18 PM  
1 vote:

Lsherm: AbbeySomeone: Southerners have better manners and pride themselves on social graces.

That is a pretty accurate assessment of what is going on.  I'm in an extremely rural area, but my neighbors at the farm across the street are incredibly racist, primarily because they're both over 80 years old.  My wife and I are friendly with an African American family that lives on 10 acres down the road, and they refer to our racist neighbors as people "with the old way of thinking."  People don't call each other racist down here even if they ARE racist.

Fun fact about the AA family - the 10 acres were purchased pre-Civil War by their family after their slave ancestors were granted freedom from a plantation in North Carolina by their owner.  They paid for the land by agreeing to work the neighboring farm that surrounds it for 30 years.  The war cut that promise short by 10 years, but they held onto the land afterwards and now they have 4 generations of family living on it in some capacity.  They also have one of the most indecipherable Southern Virginia accents I've ever come across.


cs y'all
Atomic Spunk
2013-03-24 09:13:26 PM  
1 vote:
When I read threads like this, I'm grateful to be Asian. However when I watch sports or porn, I sometimes wish I were Black.
gja
2013-03-24 09:13:02 PM  
1 vote:

Yogimus: gja: Yogimus: gja: FARK rebel soldier: Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?

I don't know how big the effect is, but it happens. Whites commit more out-of-sight crimes, black people more outdoors crimes. Like the 5 or 6 people I walked past last night, smoking pot disguised as normal cigs. All black, only one woman.

Well, if you consider smoking a joint something worth of being a crime i just don't know what to say to you.
The crap that enforcement time/effort is wasted on is unreal in this country.

Waaah I don't like the law so people should be allowed to break it.

No, the laws need to change. The current law regarding pot is asinine and wasteful. It achieves little more than clogging the legal system.

By all means, let's waste a very finite resource on a containing a "problem" that returns little or no benefit to the populous at large.
I am a law-abiding person, non-smoker, drink very infrequently, etc...
But it chaffs my butt that we continue to prosecute pot use the same way we do meth and such, in many localities.
This is stupid. It is a failure.

This I agree with.


Glad to hear reason is possible with you.
This is the point I am making in my post. Continuation of a failed/wasteful policy "because that's the way we have always done it" is perhaps the absolute definition and embodiment of 'huh-derp'.
Every person incarcerated for casual/personal pot use is a drain on the system that is completely wasteful and generally without a ROI for the taxpaying populous.
I am an engineer. So things need to:
1. Make sense
2. Follow a reasoned order of logic
3. Provide a payback for the effort involved and the resources used to prvide the desired/designed outcome

Absent of these criteria and my geek-a-larm goes off and I get stuck in div/0 mindset.
VendorXeno
2013-03-24 09:05:27 PM  
1 vote:

Yogimus: Anyone suggest that maybe the black kids should stop committing crimes yet?


"Hey! Everyone! Look at me! Look at me! Hey! Over here! Hey, yeah! OVER HERE! I'm a TROOOOOLLL! Hey! Hey! Hey! I'm a TROOOLLLLL! Look at MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Pay attention to MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Elegy
2013-03-24 08:44:31 PM  
1 vote:

redmid17: Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.

Look at the thread again. I provided not one but two different sources upthread. Both of those sources provide their own sources. Sorry your personal experience differs, something something anectdotal not statistics etcetera.

You also didn't normalize any of the statistics presented so not really.

Normalize how? The report I cited relie on ratios of convictions per 100,000 population.

If you're talking about more esoteric statistical manipulation, that doesn't help either, at least for the Midwest.

And lastly, if you have better data than the multiple well-sourced reports, maps, and articles that I am linking to, whip it out and show me, big boy.

I was just bringing up a point someone else brought up to you that you neglected to address. The per 100K also doesn't adjust for the percentage of population, but I'm sure you know that.

If you look at footnote 9 in the original prison policy report, it cites official us government statistics Prison and Jail Inmates at mid year 2005.

Specifically, it cites the table on page 11, which states that the statistics presented in that tar are:
Based on intercensal estimates of each State's resident population (by race and Hispanic origin) for July 1, 2004, and then adjusted to the State resident totals for July 1, 2005.

Uh oh, what now?

I like mashed potatoes with gravy. How about you?


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Podmore
2013-03-24 08:41:30 PM  
1 vote:
 For more on all this, the Daily News has a giant photo of the type of audio recorder Serrano used.

I lol'd
BSABSVR
2013-03-24 07:59:14 PM  
1 vote:

Gdalescrboz: JohnnyC

Gdalescrboz: in fact I would argue it's worse in the NE/West Coast.

This might help get you started with your argument... Well, not really help with your initial argument, but it could help you start from a more informed position on the subject.


I dont know what to make of it. I mean, the highest numbers of hate groups are in California and Florida, both blue states. But i wouldnt start to build an arguemtn around something as meaningless as a "hate map." Mostly because I dont know what qualifies as a "hate group" these days. The CDC says I'm a rapist because I've had sex with a girld who has had a drink. Since she had a drink, she cant give consent, thus makign me a rapist.


The important thing is that you are the real victim here.
freewill
2013-03-24 07:46:27 PM  
1 vote:

fusillade762: freewill: rkiller1: 1stgenwhtrash: Whole lot of Stormfront up in this thread. Can someone send me the re:re:re:fwd:re:re:fwd subject line that summoned you here?

We're trying to mix black and white and come up with gray but having difficulties.  Until the world melds into a single "Race of Tan" such ramblings will continue.

I would like to volunteer my services in merging my intense Scots-Irish whiteness into all the colors of the rainbow.

2045, baby. That's when it's predicted white people will be a minority in the US.


This is awesome. In a world where minorities are the new majority, the men of the new minority will seem exotic and dangerous.

/ Once you go white... something that rhymes with white happens.
// Then again, I'll be 60. I should probably just buy a motorcycle.
hardinparamedic
2013-03-24 07:31:12 PM  
1 vote:

Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.


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Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.
redmid17
2013-03-24 07:30:41 PM  
1 vote:

Hokkaido_Crying: "The recording, made secretly last month by Officer Pedro Serrano in the 40th Precinct station house in the South Bronx ..."

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Hokkaido_Crying
2013-03-24 07:26:25 PM  
1 vote:
"The recording, made secretly last month by Officer Pedro Serrano in the 40th Precinct station house in the South Bronx ..."

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Popcorn Johnny
2013-03-24 07:06:38 PM  
1 vote:

m00: Interesting to see what's stronger on fark... cop hate, or black-people hate.


Farkers love black cops.

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Yogimus
2013-03-24 07:05:46 PM  
1 vote:
young black men are criminals in a) rural Georgia b) small town in Mississippi c) the Bronx

Trick question. They are criminals everywhere.
m00
2013-03-24 07:02:01 PM  
1 vote:
Interesting to see what's stronger on fark... cop hate, or black-people hate.
rkiller1
2013-03-24 06:52:56 PM  
1 vote:

Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.


Citation please. And could you also define "institutional racism"?
As part two of this assignment, should you accept it, please document the empirically-proven benefits of diversity.No fair citing CNN or MSNBC, neither.
lack of warmth
2013-03-24 06:44:30 PM  
1 vote:

Arthur Jumbles: He should have just said stop and frisk any male teenager and the policy would have been just about as effective. Teenage males are assholes and its society's job to keep them in line. We used to have rituals that did the job..... war games, tests of strength and endurance, vision questions, and the like that helped to keep the worst in check.


I could go along with this.  Might as well frisk any girls with them that open their mouths.

/We have to stop these yutes in their tracks
 
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