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(Sportige)   Since reforming and re-entering the NFL in 1999, the Cleveland Browns have had 18 different starting quarterbacks. None of them have a winning record with the team   ( sportige.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Browns, starting lineup, NFL, Luke McCown, winning percentage, Trent Dilfer, Bruce Gradkowski, Tim Couch  
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2013-03-07 02:56:02 PM  
2 votes:
The Ravens have six losing seasons, and 2 Superbowl championships.  The Steelers have 32 losing seasons, and 6 Superbowl championships.   The Browns have 22 losing seasons, and 8 championships (all pre-super bowl era).   The Cincinnati Bengals have 22 losing seasons, and zero championships.

The Steelers have the most losing seasons in their division, and the Browns (still) have the most championships overall--although none are Superbowls.

The Steelers fans had to wait 34 years for their first championship, and the Ravens got theirs in 5 years.   The Browns fans remember the glories of long long ago, and the Bengals fans get a lot of yardwork done on Sundays.
2013-03-07 01:59:24 PM  
2 votes:
What are you talking about, subby? The Browns just won the Super Bowl.
2013-03-07 01:16:39 PM  
2 votes:
None of them have has a winning record...

Singular indefinite pronoun
/pet peeve

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2013-03-07 04:46:04 PM  
1 vote:

Nadie_AZ: A sad state of affairs to a once great sports team.

It all comes down to management, management, and management, which is why the Steelers and the Ratbirds perennially fight for the division and the Browns and Bengals rarely do.

I'd like nothing more than to see the Browns annually field a great team. I want to hate them again rather than just pitying them for their ineptitude.
2013-03-07 04:37:18 PM  
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rumpelstiltskin: At least the Bears had Sid Luckman once upon a time. The Chiefs have never in their 50 year history had a decent QB. Used Up Joe Montana is the best we've ever seen, and he was Used Up.

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2013-03-07 03:32:32 PM  
1 vote:
The most successful franchise in the AFC is the Pittsburgh Steelers.  They have had three coaches in the last forty four years.  There is the answer.
2013-03-07 03:17:05 PM  
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jake_lex: It's always been a bit surprising to me that the Browns have been so god-awful since they came back into the league, particularly since the Ravens (i.e. the old Browns) have probably been one of the best franchises in the league over that same period.  I don't recall the Ravens ever having a really putrid season since 1999 -- they've missed the playoffs, sure, but I don't think they've ever had a 2 or 3 win shiatbomb of a season.

The Ravens were smart in building their line as their very first priority... even before getting a QB.... by nabbing Jonathan Ogden to cement the left tackle position.

The Browns on the other hand, grabbed Couch...   He had a horrible offensive line, and was battered.   I think he could have been a winner if he played behind a better line...  I always liked the guy, and feel bad for how it all shook out for him.
2013-03-07 03:16:34 PM  
1 vote:

Mikey1969: Meh, the Ravens have been artound since '44, considering that they were the entire Browns organization with a new name

2013-03-07 02:43:54 PM  
1 vote:

doubled99: Jesus christ! We were sitting quietly, not bothering anyone. It's even the off season, for god's sake.
And for some reason you just had to come up and kick us squarely in the nuts. Hey! How about a 10,000 word retrospective on John Elway and "the drive" while you're at it.

fark everone

Hey, how about that shot Jordan took, huh? That was awesome.
2013-03-07 01:48:49 PM  
1 vote:
That city is a dump.
2013-03-07 01:37:14 PM  
1 vote:

Jubeebee: dletter: Still working on this (going through pro-football-reference for the data)....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnZarJcITa1JdGYwZE5ITjV WT W1Bazd5dGxkVTRuY3c&usp=sharing

Going by the theme of this article, it is all 32 teams... how many QBs that have started since 1999, how many have been over .500, and their best QBs by win % and # of wins.

Will comment about the full list once I have it up there.

Chicago: 17 starting QBs since 1999, 9 of whom have winning records. Testament to the defense and special teams during that era more than anything.

Agreed, I'd say the same thing to an extent about Baltimore.
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