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		You know that part of the rental contract where you agree to have the car back by a certain date? Turns out Avis takes that kind of seriously ( dacula.patch.com)		48
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Pocket Ninja

2013-03-05 09:42:34 AM

Ah, Patch. Employing plucky local reporters and citizen journalists who know that it's completely unimportant in an article like this to explain little details like when the car was rented and how long overdue it was. The state of local news is wonderful, folks. AOL is looking out for us all.

Nurglitch

2013-03-05 09:56:24 AM

Paging Louis C.K. to the white courtesy phone.

devine

2013-03-05 09:58:11 AM

enik

2013-03-05 09:59:39 AM

So was it an hour late or a month late?

danielscissorhands

2013-03-05 10:03:12 AM

Pocket Ninja: Ah, Patch. Employing plucky local reporters and citizen journalists who know that it's completely unimportant in an article like this to explain little details like when the car was rented and how long overdue it was. The state of local news is wonderful, folks. AOL is looking out for us all.

Came here to say exactly this.

This article is completely pointless without that info.

TheHappyCanadian

2013-03-05 10:03:37 AM

enik: So was it an hour late or a month late?

those people are stereotypically always late

/renters, I mean

traylor

2013-03-05 10:05:15 AM

Good thing I rented my car from Mpegs.

Amos Quito

2013-03-05 10:05:20 AM

FTA: "During a post-arrest search of Ms. Green's possessions, an officer located 13 Social Security cards, 13 Medicaid cards and other cards, several of which did not have the name of either Dayvon or Valerie Green.

babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy ...

jayphat

2013-03-05 10:08:55 AM

Amos Quito: FTA: "During a post-arrest search of Ms. Green's possessions, an officer located 13 Social Security cards, 13 Medicaid cards and other cards, several of which did not have the name of either Dayvon or Valerie Green.

babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy ...

I'm more interested in how many DID have their name on them.

Skyd1v

2013-03-05 10:11:08 AM

It also depends on state law. Many moons ago I used to work for a car rental company (same company as in the article it turns out) and up here failing to return a rental car is considered to be a "Breach of Contract" - a civil issue. Cops absolutely will NOT get involved in any way.

We used to call the cab companies and offer a $100.00 cash reward for information leading to us getting our car back. It worked amazingly well.

eas81

2013-03-05 10:11:11 AM

Renters problems

JohnCarter

2013-03-05 10:11:11 AM

Glad I rent from Enterprise, sometimes traffic can be iffy and they don't get all "calling the cops" if you are late

Gough

2013-03-05 10:13:24 AM

Yeah, I always carry my kids' SS cards with me wherever I go....

surrealbowl

2013-03-05 10:14:21 AM

Something tells me they weren't only a day late.

RanDomino

2013-03-05 10:15:53 AM

At the time of the traffic stop, Valerie Green's 11-month-old child was in the vehicle. The child was later released to Green's sister.

Doesn't this imply that the police forcibly separated an infant from its mother?

Seems fair for a dispute of a couple hundred dollars.

Harry Freakstorm

2013-03-05 10:19:15 AM

John Smith?

that's my son

Jane Smith?

That's my daughter

Rory Calhoun?

My son. Momma's Smithy Calhoun

Josephine Green-Rosenbaum?

That's my daughter.

Kia Hyundai?

That's my daughter

Gotcha. That's your auto insurance card.

Uh. No. Look at that Medicare card.

I'll be damned. Kia Hyundai.

That's my daughter.

thorthor

2013-03-05 10:19:46 AM

RanDomino: At the time of the traffic stop, Valerie Green's 11-month-old child was in the vehicle. The child was later released to Green's sister.

Doesn't this imply that the police forcibly separated an infant from its mother?

Seems fair for a dispute of a couple hundred dollars.

Since the entire article was about as informative as it could be (having obviously been written by a four year old), perhaps we should have more info before jumping to conclusions regarding who did what etc..

MindStalker

2013-03-05 10:22:10 AM

Skyd1v: It also depends on state law. Many moons ago I used to work for a car rental company (same company as in the article it turns out) and up here failing to return a rental car is considered to be a "Breach of Contract" - a civil issue. Cops absolutely will NOT get involved in any way.

We used to call the cab companies and offer a $100.00 cash reward for information leading to us getting our car back. It worked amazingly well.

So did this happen if it was a day late or would it have to be several days late before you'd start searching? Would you try to call the person first? I'd imagine there are frequent cases of "Oh yea, sorry, can we extend the contract by a few days?" Or they pretty much all attempted thefts?

Tom_Slick

2013-03-05 10:23:30 AM

I'm not sure of the current laws in Georgia, but back 17 years ago when I spent a summer cleaning and inventorying "recovered vehicles" they had to wait 48 hours after the end of the contract before they could report a car stolen.

/Once had a minivan returned with 12 bullet holes but thankfully no blood.

AgentBang

2013-03-05 10:24:41 AM

Nurglitch: Paging Louis C.K. to the white courtesy phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b00-c-bk4U0 NSFW (language)

Makes me really want to do it. I know I never will.

DROxINxTHExWIND

2013-03-05 10:24:47 AM

When I was a younger and my personal car was a bucket, there was nothing harder than returning a rental car. I'd get used to riding comfortably and without worrying about whether your driving was damaging the car. Once, when I was getting my car repaired after an accident, I drove around in the rental for a month after the car was fixed. I rented a new Dodge Intrepid (it was really nice at the time). Keeping the car for so long was dumb as shiat and it cost me an arm, but damned if I wasn't all up and down the east coast. I had a ball. And no, I didn't keep it and go missing. I just kept renewing the contract when it was time to take it back.

Cold_Sassy

2013-03-05 10:31:20 AM

jayphat: Amos Quito: FTA: "During a post-arrest search of Ms. Green's possessions, an officer located 13 Social Security cards, 13 Medicaid cards and other cards, several of which did not have the name of either Dayvon or Valerie Green.

babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy ...

I'm more interested in how many DID have their name on them.

None

Earl of Chives

2013-03-05 10:33:52 AM

They did see fit to give us a picture of what a police car might look like.

Thanks AOL!

omgbears

2013-03-05 10:35:58 AM

what the cat dragged in

2013-03-05 10:37:18 AM

Amateurs.

Horsebolt McStabledoor

2013-03-05 10:42:02 AM

um

The police report did not indicate when the vehicle had been rented or when it was supposed to have been returned.

but yah, guess she could have called

Enterprise, we'll pick you up, then rat you out to the fuzz

poot_rootbeer

2013-03-05 10:47:50 AM

RanDomino: Doesn't this imply that the police forcibly separated an infant from its mother?

You would rather the 11-month-old sits in jail with Mama?

what the cat dragged in

2013-03-05 10:50:31 AM

Ah, dog ate my URL (speaking of amateurs...)

MythDragon

2013-03-05 10:51:57 AM

"Oh dey all named Leroy"
'Well then how do you call a specific one?'
"Oh dat's easy. Den I jus' use dey last name."

Skyd1v

2013-03-05 10:52:36 AM

MindStalker: Skyd1v: It also depends on state law. Many moons ago I used to work for a car rental company (same company as in the article it turns out) and up here failing to return a rental car is considered to be a "Breach of Contract" - a civil issue. Cops absolutely will NOT get involved in any way.

We used to call the cab companies and offer a $100.00 cash reward for information leading to us getting our car back. It worked amazingly well.

So did this happen if it was a day late or would it have to be several days late before you'd start searching? Would you try to call the person first? I'd imagine there are frequent cases of "Oh yea, sorry, can we extend the contract by a few days?" Or they pretty much all attempted thefts?

I worked in the body shop, not front desk, so my only involvement was getting the 2am wake up call, go to the shop to get the $100 out of petty cash, and take the wrecker out to hook up the car.

But my understanding from talking to the desk folks was they would give it a week (or more, if the credit card still had available funds on it) and would exhaust any points of contact they had on file first.

Things may be different now. I left there in mid '93 and have only been on the "renter" side of the counter since.

MythDragon

2013-03-05 10:53:52 AM

You think that's bad, you should see what they do if you bring it back with a tank that's not *completely* full.

RedT

2013-03-05 10:58:00 AM

I rent often, and one time I was talking to the gal behind the counter who was trying to get a car back. It was 3 weeks overdue.

/I often return my cars late (usually when miss their closing time when I am driving back to town). I have never had a problem, they just add the extra time to my bill.

bdub77

2013-03-05 11:01:17 AM

Should have gone with Hertz. You could murder someone and get away with it.

bdub77

2013-03-05 11:01:52 AM

jayphat

2013-03-05 11:02:13 AM

Cold_Sassy: jayphat: Amos Quito: FTA: "During a post-arrest search of Ms. Green's possessions, an officer located 13 Social Security cards, 13 Medicaid cards and other cards, several of which did not have the name of either Dayvon or Valerie Green.

babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy babbydaddy ...

I'm more interested in how many DID have their name on them.

None

If more than one had their name on it, THEN I would be highly interested.

bdub77

2013-03-05 11:04:32 AM

Rufus Lee King: bdub77: Should have gone with Hertz. You could murder someone and get away with it.

You ain't lyin'!

[touchfm.org image 560x774]

Total fail on my part. :(

ShavedApe

2013-03-05 11:07:16 AM

I used to work for Hertz Rent-A-Car a little over a year ago. The number of times that we had to demand cars back from customers was ridiculous. The worst was when their cars were in the shop and they were arguing with the shop or the insurance company. They'd get mad when he hit their credit cards for authorization of rental charges after keeping it a week past when the insurance company said they'd stop paying.

DarkVader

2013-03-05 11:19:24 AM

That is exactly how it SHOULD be. The car is NOT stolen, the rental company knows who has it and gave them permission to drive it. Keeping it longer is a breach of that contract, but is not theft. Take it to civil court, get an order to reacquire possession of the car, then you can use the cops to get the car back - but NOT charge anyone with a crime.

Nanuk-the White Bear

2013-03-05 11:28:34 AM

I often keep a car an extra day or two if my trip is prolonged. The big rental agencies' philosophy is "if it's 24-36 hours of extension, don't even bother calling us. But if it's longer, call the toll-free number and extend your contract"

Smaller agencies, like Rent-a-Wreck, will call your cell if you are over a day late. I guess they don't have the inventory or flexibility to deal with late returns.

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!

2013-03-05 12:06:11 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: When I was a younger and my personal car was a bucket, there was nothing harder than returning a rental car. I'd get used to riding comfortably and without worrying about whether your driving was damaging the car. Once, when I was getting my car repaired after an accident, I drove around in the rental for a month after the car was fixed. I rented a new Dodge Intrepid (it was really nice at the time). Keeping the car for so long was dumb as shiat and it cost me an arm, but damned if I wasn't all up and down the east coast. I had a ball. And no, I didn't keep it and go missing. I just kept renewing the contract when it was time to take it back.

When that ball you were talking about drops, get a ford

cirby

2013-03-05 12:47:08 PM

DarkVader:
That is exactly how it SHOULD be. The car is NOT stolen, the rental company knows who has it and gave them permission to drive it. Keeping it longer is a breach of that contract, but is not theft.

Actually, it is.

When you rent a car, you rent it for a given time period, not indefinitely. If you want to keep it longer, you can extend that contract, but you need to talk to the company you rented it from. You also need to keep paying the rental charges on a fairly regular basis. I'm betting the people in the article used a credit card that ran out of money.

If you just rent the car and disappear, the company can't charge you for it, and don't answer phone calls, you stole it.

Watubi

2013-03-05 01:04:09 PM

So, every time I try to rent a car and they tell me the one I'm slotted for hasn't been returned yet, I'm going to ask them if they've called the police

lack of warmth

2013-03-05 01:54:16 PM

Skyd1v: MindStalker: Skyd1v: It also depends on state law. Many moons ago I used to work for a car rental company (same company as in the article it turns out) and up here failing to return a rental car is considered to be a "Breach of Contract" - a civil issue. Cops absolutely will NOT get involved in any way.

We used to call the cab companies and offer a $100.00 cash reward for information leading to us getting our car back. It worked amazingly well.

So did this happen if it was a day late or would it have to be several days late before you'd start searching? Would you try to call the person first? I'd imagine there are frequent cases of "Oh yea, sorry, can we extend the contract by a few days?" Or they pretty much all attempted thefts?

I worked in the body shop, not front desk, so my only involvement was getting the 2am wake up call, go to the shop to get the $100 out of petty cash, and take the wrecker out to hook up the car.

But my understanding from talking to the desk folks was they would give it a week (or more, if the credit card still had available funds on it) and would exhaust any points of contact they had on file first.

Things may be different now. I left there in mid '93 and have only been on the "renter" side of the counter since.

So, if you are rich (and white probably wouldn't hurt) then you can just keep it till you feel otherwise.

ISO15693

2013-03-05 02:33:42 PM

I've kept rentals out 2-3 days past the return date, then called up and said "Sorry I am late, I need to extend for a week" and they've always been perfectly happy, never complaining about my lateness.

My guess is she was more than 7 days late in returning, with no contact.

cynicalbastard

2013-03-05 04:13:32 PM

All due respect, a lot of these companies only take YOUR end of the contract seriously. I had one try and tack on a week's worth of late fees. I had to practically get a letter from my CO saying that I was not only over a thousand miles away from the city in question when the car was supposedly returned by me, but had been at work by then for several days.

SpaceBison

2013-03-05 04:25:15 PM

BarkingUnicorn

2013-03-05 04:32:12 PM

danielscissorhands: Pocket Ninja: Ah, Patch. Employing plucky local reporters and citizen journalists who know that it's completely unimportant in an article like this to explain little details like when the car was rented and how long overdue it was. The state of local news is wonderful, folks. AOL is looking out for us all.

Came here to say exactly this.

This article is completely pointless without that info.

Not sure if serious.

PastaFazoole

2013-03-05 11:21:55 PM

TheHappyCanadian: enik: So was it an hour late or a month late?

those people are stereotypically always late

/renters, I mean

GIS for car renter.

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