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(Washington Post)   Students at first college for home-schoolers refrain from everything   ( divider line
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2001-11-28 12:08:28 AM  
homeschoolers rock!
2001-11-28 12:09:55 AM  
Once again, a hyper-sheltered kid during childhood turns into a mindless zombie when he advances from the kitchen table to the real world. Wait! This isn't the real world, it's four classrooms with big kitchen tables!
2001-11-28 12:12:04 AM  
It's been proven.. homeschoolers are soo much smarter than products of the public school system.
2001-11-28 12:15:15 AM  
And scarier, soo much scarier than public school graduates.
2001-11-28 12:19:45 AM  
Sounds like we need to go tape those kids to benches
2001-11-28 12:22:59 AM  
Homeschool = Very smart.
Homeschool = Socially farked.

(from what I have seen...)
2001-11-28 12:24:03 AM  
why is this label scary? what is scary about people going to a riliegeous(SP?)college?
2001-11-28 12:25:55 AM  
Its people like this that scare me. They are brought up with one viewpoint and one way of thinking. They are never exposed to opposite viewpoints, ideas, or even people of other backgrounds. They have very little trust in science and tech fields, and think its against "God" if you follow these things. For example, the one woman took her son out of public schools because evolution was being taught as fact. Well...guess what is fact. Why is it that so many christians believe that their way is the only way it should be. They want their kids praying to god in school, but if a law was passed that they also had to have jewish, muslim, hindu, peagan, and all other forms of religious prayer at the start of school, I'm sure every one of the would still protest and pull their kids out because of these so called "heathen" practices. If I was still applying for college, I would try this place just to see if they would accept an agnostic liberal evolutionist.
2001-11-28 12:26:35 AM  

The premise of the college is to extend homeschooling from the home to the college by further isolation.
2001-11-28 12:26:41 AM  
Be afraid of the homeschooled. Very afraid.
2001-11-28 12:28:17 AM  
Evolution = CRAP!


Lemme give you a basic explanation of the Big Bang theory.
First there was nothing. Then it collided!
Yeah, that's real intelligent.
2001-11-28 12:28:33 AM  
Well, I've been public schooled my entire life and I've yet to try any of that stuff either.

Just because I'm a nerd though.
2001-11-28 12:31:48 AM  
Hey NGAF, you may wanna catch up on your big bang theory a little. There was something before the explosion when everything expanded. I'm sure some good new science books have a good explanation in them. Or are you stuck in a bible belt where science books are not bought because it goes against the bible.
2001-11-28 12:32:59 AM  
That string theory guy says that nothing can be very unstable.

Makes a lot more sense to me than some giant guy with sandals who decided to do something for a week, but then gave up.
2001-11-28 12:34:57 AM  
And by the way, if you believe what the bible says about how the world was created. I have a question for you. Which story. Genesis I or Genesis II. Both are in teh bible, and both are supposedly true because they are from "GOD", but they are different. Very different in some cases. So how can both be true? One of them has to be wrong, and therefore something in the bible is wrong. Could that mean that there are other mistakes in a book that has been transcribed thousands of times since it was first written more that 2,000 years ago?
2001-11-28 12:36:02 AM  
I was joking people. Sarcasm dont come across well in written form. Next time I use sarcasm tags.
2001-11-28 12:37:56 AM  
Genisis 2?
Like in star trek?
2001-11-28 12:38:45 AM  
Not all homeschools are religiously-based. Hell, I was homeschooled, I refuse to attend church of any kind.

BTW, this college scares the hell out of me.
2001-11-28 12:39:36 AM  
HA HA a funny guy hollywoodnorth. And I mean really...I do.....

Anything with star trek in it MUST be good.
2001-11-28 12:45:08 AM  
I understand that most of homeschoolers are religous, but I also thought alot of homeschoolers were secular types who just got fed up with the shiat being taught nowadays. Similar to non-catholics enrolling their kids in catholic schools. Id make my kid sit through mass if they'd get a decent education. But college------the whole point is to get away from the norms, experience those mores. The classes and learning stuff is an afterthought. Did you want fries with that?
2001-11-28 12:46:54 AM  
I schooled a few people in college. Mostly in touch football and arcade games.
2001-11-28 12:46:56 AM  
If ignorance is bliss, some of you are in farkin' nirvana now.
2001-11-28 12:54:53 AM  
"...a fledgling college with four classrooms in the soybean fields of Loudoun County."

Ahhhhhhhhhh hahahahahaha.

BTW, if there any homeschoolers looking for any other new colleges, I just started one in my closet. Where, if you're lucky, I'll lend you books from a real school.
2001-11-28 12:55:16 AM  
was there anything else in college besides touch football and arcade games. Besides the drinking, the sex, and going to class every now and then so you could check out the hot T.A. wearing a short skirt....umm..nevermind.
2001-11-28 12:59:13 AM  
"A boyish-looking, charismatic father of 10, "

Looks like this guy didn't abstain from sex.
2001-11-28 01:04:29 AM  
"I'm 50, I still like to have fun," says the president of the college. But "there's a certain adolescent approach to fun that gets you in trouble."

Um... yeah, dude. You're cool. Thanks.

But they're very upfront with their agenda, that's for sure:

"Go take over. That's the answer."

Ever read The Handmaid's Tale?

Yeah, that's them. Right there.

We're all going to hell. Except me. I'm going to bed.


2001-11-28 01:04:31 AM  
Holy shiat this sounds like the begining of some Stepford Children the College years movie.
2001-11-28 01:12:09 AM  

Christians are stupid.
2001-11-28 01:14:26 AM  
"Touch" football eh? Heh heh heh... I hear ya. Loud and clear. ;)

...We're talking about sex, right?
2001-11-28 01:14:35 AM  
When it was time for college, Gibson entertained a notion of applying to Columbia University. But an alumnus warned: "You're putting yourself in a position where you're going to be asked to question a lot of things."

Remember, your beliefs are always best if you never question them, that way you know you're always right.

I wonder, they didn't mention in this school if they oil and change the batteries on the robots.
2001-11-28 01:15:26 AM  
"When it was time for college, Gibson entertained a notion of applying to Columbia University. But an alumnus warned: 'You're putting yourself in a position where you're going to be asked to question a lot of things.' At Patrick Henry, Gibson says, the professors don't try to 'tear down what you've built, what your parents have spent 18 years building.'"

Sounds like a horrible position to be in. What will these parents do when their kids come back from college asking about Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. It seems to me the foundation of learning is questioning things. Otherwise you are a robot programmed by your parents.

And maybe its just me, but my professors at Columbia don't promote promiscuous sex or teach me how to get high or drunk.
2001-11-28 01:16:03 AM  
damn you AoF
2001-11-28 01:16:43 AM  
Looking over my shoulder
2001-11-28 01:19:39 AM  
Not even a minute apart, thems the breaks.
2001-11-28 01:23:35 AM  
A lot of parents use homeschooling instead of public schools not because of the material the schools teach, but how friggin poorly they teach it.
2001-11-28 01:25:05 AM  
Come on, you guys, look at the incredible reasoning put forth by "Nobody Gives a Fark." Using his highly intelligent Christian logic, I've come up with several brilliant statements (again, in the same format as his):

Nobody Gives a Fark = CRAP!
Nobody Gives a Fark's Education = CRAP!
Nobody Gives a Fark's Mother = CRAP!
Nobody Gives a Fark's IQ = CRAP!

Try to come on this board and spout bullshiat and you're going to get yourself farked in ass. Make moronic statements that even YOU know are incredibly stupid and you prove yourself to be a complete social fark-up.

The statements made by you, Nobody Gives a Fark, makes myself and everyone on this board superior to you, you mindless, pathetic sack of shiat.

I know, I know, not the most intelligent way to bash him, but people like that really piss me off.
2001-11-28 01:30:35 AM  
Buckshot There are more mature ways of dealing with him, I for example slept with his girlfriend.
2001-11-28 01:37:03 AM  
All this evolution stuff is crap, big bang from nothing is crap, and god in heaven playing chess with us is crap too. were here, i dont know why, nor do i give half a shiat to find out.
2001-11-28 01:37:55 AM  
Hmmm... I will need to make a note on this college's name and make sure that it appears on HR's list of "Schools not to hire from."

I mean shiat these people are going to be going into the world with completely unrealistic view on how the world works. They are just continuing the set up for these kids to fail.

It is sad what these parents are doing to their children.
2001-11-28 01:44:53 AM  
My parents put me in private school (not a religious one though) and it wasn't so bad. Just like public with really dopey uniforms and better teaches and more money. My parents spent so much on music gear for me yet they refused to let me buy an album with explicit language. So now I'm 23 and I'm golly gosh gonna buy any buggering poo-mouthed album I like!!! Take that you bottom-burps!
2001-11-28 01:45:17 AM  
The Big Bang is just a theory.
Its a good theory. Its certainly better than any "intelligent creation" theory I've heard so far. Its the theory I rely upon when any decision concerning the beginning of the universe arises (which is admittedly not often.)
But its still a theory.
2001-11-28 01:46:16 AM  
A group of mindless sheep waiting to be led, and I was just wondering what i was going to do with my life.

He he, children of the soy.
2001-11-28 01:52:39 AM  
From the article: "I just want them to think about moral absolutes and have reasons why they believe them," Stacey says later. He insists his students study their faith with the same intellectual rigor they reserve for Plato. "When they leave here," he says, "they're going to have to go into the public sector. And they will embarrass themselves and embarrass us if they take naive, unfounded arguments out there with them."

Sounds like these people realise, to some extent, that graduates will have to be in the world but not of it.

It amazes me how some Farkers who are oh-so-tolerant of many things (drugs, casual sex, etc.) find themselves intolerant of those who wish to practise their faith in their daily lives.

For the record, I've not been to a church for over a year, so you can spare me the "Pickrell is a church nut" bullshiat.

2001-11-28 02:00:15 AM  
Stpickrell: Keep missing church,
you're on a roll! All you need is FARK.
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2001-11-28 02:03:55 AM  
If I ever have kids(fear,fear that day),I'll do my damnedest to keep them out of public school,where they can learn the newest feel good PC bullshiat,and then have a turn about with hypocritical bigotry,ignorance,low compassion,and dealing with other parents' farkups(children,for the dense),instead of reading and multiplication,which the welfare thread seems to prove.Public school sucks.
2001-11-28 02:10:43 AM  
No STPickrell, I do not believe you are a church nut. But the idea that them teaching moral absolutes is asinine. I minored in philosophy and I can argue till we are both blue in the face about morality. But the one thing that is always found to be a truth is that in the real world there are no actual moral absolutes. There are to many gray areas. Many times the practice of keeping to one moral will break another and there is where the idea of moral absolutes breaks down. It is during high school and college that America's youth comes to learn this and starts to form a means to interact with people who are much different than they are, and the understanding of why there are no absolutes in the world.

There are going to be people out there who are going to seek them out and take advantage of them. Because they have been taught to see the world in a black and white right and wrong way. The ideals that they are trying to teach are noble but they are out moded for todays world, and these young adults are being set up to fail.

I do not care that they don't wish to drink, do drugs, or have casual sex. But continuing to place them in an enviroment where there is no challenge to their beliefs and their morals they will be unprepared when they are faced with those challenges in the real world. Many young teenagers when they get into college go wild for a short period of time, but a lot of them calm down and straighten out. But after they have grown through that test to their character they end up being stronger and more capable people afterwards. These people are going to be unchallenged in their beliefs, and unchallenged in their character. And when they get to the real world and things break down around them and their faith does not carry them through like they have been told it would... what happens then? What do they do then? These people who have not been challenged and have not been tested socially? They crack and they crumble and they fail. I have seen it happen more often than I like... and it pains me to see people willfully set up their children for it ot happen to them.

But that is it for me for now... I need to go.
good night
2001-11-28 02:12:04 AM  
no one teaches evolution as fact, since it is still considered theory. but it is taught since it is the leading theory, as johnny magic already pointed out.

PETA needs a similar institution so they can teach the two food groups (fruit/veg and iron supplements) sans outside interference.
2001-11-28 02:17:47 AM  
Wow. Finally an article that really shows off the full gamut of farker thought (or lack thereof, as in the case of NGaF).

but anyway for what its worth -- most of the Home Schoolers I know actually do it for a mix of religious and educational reasons. My parents are hugely religious (as is most of my family -- exceptions being me (family atheist, having received enough additional education) and my brother (agnostic, and well on his way...)) But of 6 kids total my parents have & homeschool (all of us, all the way through high school), 3 for 3 so far have graduated as national merit finalists or semifinalists, and received full ride scholarships to schools of our choice. Are we socially challenged? Not really (unless that's just a given for anyone posting to fark... hehe) but I'm married, neither I nor the others have any trouble making friends, etc.

This college scares the living shiat out of me, perhaps because I know better than most what these people are really up to and just how hostile they are to science, reason and modernity in general.

OK, so that kindof rambled (it's late) but the point is this: homeschoolers are, in general, a smart lot. They've got plenty of individual attention from their teachers, they read prodigiously, and frequently take life much, much more seriously than their public school counterparts (same goes for private school counterparts, though to a lesser degree). According to the Homeschool Legal Defense Association ( the homeschool lobby is now one of the 3 most powerful in DC. you ignore them (us?) at your peril, BUT all that education comes in very handy when you're trying to convince them to be reasonable. I dropped religion like a hot potato once I realized how damaging it was - this was before I actually *wanted* to do so; it was just that the evidence had become compelling. Keep reasoning with them, keep explaining about evolution, etc.... you'll reach more than you might think, and they're worth having as allies.

Incidentally, ModernHamlet is right about the Handmaid's Tale and, if not Farris and co, at least a bunch of these types. It's scary as hell.

But cooler minds will eventually prevail, human reason will triumph, life continues, etc...

Voltaire was mostly right. Sorry for the long and rambling post.
2001-11-28 03:01:15 AM  
I really feel sorry for these kids, they say they're not brainwashed, but that's exactly it. Sheltered from real life all those years, with their parents forcing a single view onto them and not allowing them any other. Now they're at the age where they should be able to question their beliefs and learn about the world, but they can't and won't because of what they've been taught. They're just blindly following the path their parents laid out, and are completely unwilling to learn anything else or really experience life.. and these people are probably going to be joining the American government soon. No wonder this country has so many problems. In a country that is suppose to stand for freedom and individual's rights, people unwilling to compromise on any ideas just hold us back.. It's scary.
2001-11-28 03:07:09 AM  
Religeous schools that just block out everything else in the world kind of get my goat. I dont belive that the Big Bang happened, but i probally know more about it, both for it or against it, to win a debate from either side with anyone on Fark. Just because im a christian, im not gonna go say "This never happened, your stupid!" because id hate for someone to do that to me with my personal beliefs. If students are educated on all viewpoints, they tend to be more tolerant with other students, students they may have excluded and bullyed if they were still the "unknown"
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