GnomePaladin: Brubold: MilesTeg: I see the white house spin machine and their Fark shills are in full cover mode./expectedThis.Woodward is obviously a racist. Anyone that questions Obama is one don't ya know.Which I guess explains why liberals give him a pass on all those Bush era programs he's continued and expanded. They don't want to be racists./hope they have fun not being racists in our burgeoning police stateSorry guys, this won't work anymore. They released the full text of the letters. You both look pretty stupid.
FlashHarry: so to sum up this thread:• bob woodward, the sudden darling of the right wing, is caught in a lie.• farkers pounce on this, making endless fun of him• butthurt wingnuts leap to his defense by trying to imply that the non-wingnut community thinks he's racist for opposing obama, despite zero evidence to support that claimis that about it?
whcrow: Man Democrats must be imploding..Woodward and now Lanny Davis. I even heard Obama backing off his "the sky is falling" statements about sequestration .
cameroncrazy1984: Phinn: When China stops buying US debt to fund Obama's spending of our money, Sperling can just say, "My bad!"Like he does.China owns less than 9% of US debt. I'm sorry, you were saying some other things, but I couldn't hear you over the sound of how stupid that deflection is.
FlashHarry: so bob woodward is a proven liar and now has ZERO credibility. that's good to know.
max_pooper: The derp has gotten so bad that the GOP mouth breathers have forgone their usual "run away when proven to be wrong" modus operandi to continue to run with the lie long after it as been exposed.
dr_blasto: Kangaroo_Ralph: Except now another one of their own is talking about the intimidation coming from the White House.Dick Morris was a Clinton adviser.
jjorsett: The good thing about this flap about whether Woodward was threatened or not is that it lets the Democrats avoid having to discuss his main point, which is that the White House is lying about being the architects of the sequester and reneging on its deal with the Republicans.
mongbiohazard: dr_blasto: Kangaroo_Ralph: Except now another one of their own is talking about the intimidation coming from the White House.Dick Morris was a Clinton adviser.And shortly after he was fired by Clinton for sucking a prostitute's toes he started shilling for the right. He was a Fox News employee until they let him go after the last election. He had been shilling for Romney so badly he actually embarrassed Fox News - ain't that a trip?Dick Morris has been a favorite on the right for many years, if not actually several decades now.
Rwa2play: This; that lot has gone full Black Knight. What the hell are they going to argue now?
mksmith: What the hell has gotten into him lately anyway? I think perhaps he's just been a Famous Investigative Journalist for waaaaay too long.
Fart_Machine: jjorsett: The good thing about this flap about whether Woodward was threatened or not is that it lets the Democrats avoid having to discuss his main point, which is that the White House is lying about being the architects of the sequester and reneging on its deal with the Republicans.What point? That it confirms that Woodward is a liar?
danvon: The sad thing is that the story about the threat is out there. The R base has that bit of information squirreled away. So, in about a year, they'll bring it up that Woodward was threatened by the administration as evidence that the President is a dictator, bully, etc. and the fact that there was no "threat" will conveniently slip down the memory hole.
eraser8: unexplained bacon: did you catch the RW reaction to Woodward's claim before and after the text of the email was released?Read the comments from TFA.The grassroots teabaggers are doubling down.The right wingnut bubble has not been burst and will never be burst so long these people refuse to acknowledge any fact that undermines their preconceptions. They have faith that they're right. And, faith -- to them -- is worth more than all the facts in the world.
I should be in the kitchen: I already know the conservative talking points du jour.)
yeegrek: I often joke that Republicans are not always the most self-aware bunch, but you might think that after "Friends of Hamas", they might think to look just the tiniest bit beneath the surface on this one, especially since it involved a guy who they hated for decades. Nope, instead they just dove head-first into the kiddie pool. Again.
Corvus: So you have to listen to them repeat all the point you already know they are going to make.
mrexcess: The guy yelled at him, then wrote him a fairly passive-aggressive e-mail. On the 1-10 scale of threatening speech, it isn't a 1 or a 10. Woodward seems to have exaggerated a bit, but given the context (being shouted at, then having this e-mail be the follow up), he didn't spin his concern out of whole cloth, either.
mrexcess: The guy yelled at him,
mrexcess: then wrote him a fairly passive-aggressive e-mail.
mrexcess: On the 1-10 scale of threatening speech, it isn't a 1 or a 10
mrexcess: . Woodward seems to have exaggerated a bit,
mrexcess: but given the context
mrexcess: , he didn't spin his concern out of whole cloth, either.
mrexcess: It's sort of sad that anyone who stakes positions that aren't 100% in line with that of their perceived allied party face immediate and severe retribution
mrexcess: Political positions being a reflection of loyalties rather than good sense are a reflection of the growing partisan ossification of our political system
mrexcess: Mostly though, I'm still lamenting how uncivil we've all become towards each other.
*squees, happily drinks stout*
mrexcess: If you mean he didn't come out and say, "gee that sure was a passive aggressive e-mail you sent", sure.
mrexcess: That doesn't pass the sniff test. Who the fark would buy a book because of this? Apart from that, you're trotting out pretty much the first politician PR flack response to anyone who publishes books and then takes issue with people in office.
Ring of Fire: Taylor Mental: Ring of Fire: Lol just looking at google news and the headline from Forbes is "Bob Woodward brings down another president". I clicked the link to see what type of bs Forbes was pushing and low and behold got "oops! We can't seem to find the page you requested"It not what you're thinking. I read the piece before it got taken down, it was quite sartorial and mocking towards Woodward's claims.Here's the now inoperative link: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmcquaid/2013/02/28/bob-woodward-brings -down-another-president/He (John McQuaid) also has a blog, perhaps he'll post the the article there.Thanks my bad. Obviously was not able to read the article and assumed it must have been some weapons grade derp that got yanked.Also this whole thing make Woodward look real bad. The email was clearly saying sorry I got a little hot earlier I still think you are wrong but I'll let you figure that out when you look like an ass hole later. But no hard feelings we can agree to disagree. It was by no means a threat anybody with a brain can see that. The fact that Woodward went on national TV and claims he was threatend in that email make me question his mental state. His own response he basically accepts the apology.
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