Gosling: Di Atribe: And the argument about putting hockey in cities that only see snow "once every 20 years" is asinine. Unless the other teams are playing their games outside, geography is irrelevant. We can freeze shiat now. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGYThe shiat that needs to freeze is the lake. If the lake isn't freezing, there's no underlying winter-sports culture and you can't force one.
Gosling: I think we've proved definitively with the Thrashers and Coyotes that when it comes to hockey, you can take your market sizes and throw them out the goddamned window. It doesn't matter how many people you have in a city. If they only see snow once every 20 years, they're generally a bad place for a hockey team. That is why they moved a team from Atlanta to a place an hour north of North Dakota. On paper, that's a terrible decision. In hockey, it was an obvious decision.
desertgeek: Central: Minnesota, St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Nashville, Toronto, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Florida
Watubi: As a Pacific Div team fan can I just say that I'm sick of hearing Detroit fans and players complain about travel? Cry me a river, try playing on the West Coast. And, the NHL COULD make a schedule that evens out team travel amongst all teams but it would never happen. If one Eastern team had to make, heaven forbid, TWO trips out west, there'd be hell to pay
mjohnson71: Add a team in either Seattle or Portland then another team in Hamilton to make the league 32. Then have four 8-team divisions.
Donnchadha: flak attack: As a Pens fan, I say no. I'm tired of being sold this idea that the Caps are our rivals. Quite frankly, I couldn't give a shiat about that team and I don't want to hear more talk about them. Throw them to the other Eastern group, send Detroit back west and we'll take the Preds.Are you new to hockey or something? You think the Pens/Caps rivalry is just about Sid vs. Ovie?The Penguins have never won the Stanley Cup if they did not beat Washington in the playoffs that year.April 24, 1996 was more of a rivalry defining game than the entire 7 game series in 2009.
flak attack: As a Pens fan, I say no. I'm tired of being sold this idea that the Caps are our rivals. Quite frankly, I couldn't give a shiat about that team and I don't want to hear more talk about them. Throw them to the other Eastern group, send Detroit back west and we'll take the Preds.
notsosilentbob: All of the realignment proposals that the NHL has been working on start with the premise of moving Detroit to the Eastern conference. The problem is that it doesn't address the problem they have now that was caused by the Thrashers move to Winnipeg and forces absurd compromises (Florida and Canadian franchises in the same division?) in order to make the situation work. The easiest solution, simply move Nashville to the southeast and call it a day. Yes, there are other teams more East or more South that could be moved, but this keeps all of the Detroit, Chicago, St Louis historical rivalries in place. Leaving Chicago alone in the west as the only original six team is a very bad idea.This looks like essentially the same plan the players association rejected last time, maybe they cleaned up the language regarding the playoffs and hope it will pass this time. It's still a turd, unless you're a Wings fan.
desertgeek: Conference 1: Boston, Buffalo, Detroit, Florida, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay, Toronto (Call this an Eastern Conference?)
Popcorn Johnny: As a Wings fan, I like it.
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