Dansker: dennerman: I always hated the idea of Biofuels. I mean, whoever thought, "Let's burn food for fuel!" was a good idea should be removed from their position and made to feed the hungry for at least a year.Biofuels do not have to be made from food stuff. You can use grasses, garbage, or, as TFA suggests, eucalyptus.
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: /All energy is ultimately solar energy
Fizpez: That was an expensive fill up! Might I as why you burned all that n-butanol up? My assumption was it was going to be "disposed of" anyway at some insane cost to your company by a waste disposal company and you took one for the team - but damn that's an expensive 1/2 tank of gass.
OgreMagi: This reduced the food crops which increased prices and that hurt the lower classes in Mexico the most.
ThrobblefootSpectre: Mexico has lower unemployment, a stronger economy, and a lower debt to GDP ratio than the U.S.
give me doughnuts: Dansker: dennerman: I always hated the idea of Biofuels. I mean, whoever thought, "Let's burn food for fuel!" was a good idea should be removed from their position and made to feed the hungry for at least a year.Biofuels do not have to be made from food stuff. You can use grasses, garbage, or, as TFA suggests, eucalyptus.SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE KOALAS!
DuudeStanky: You know whats odd? Over the past few months with all of this Israel vs. Palestine business going on, the sheer number of "Israel did something amazing!" and "Look at Israel!" articles are kind of irritating me.I mean, the guys in Israel's PR department are working overtime and really getting their country out there in the news. I don't see nearly the same amount of articles from elsewhere. But just the fact that I'm being virtually inundated by the pro-Israel stuff is a bit off-putting.Its hard to describe.
kakarot251: Also, Thorium.Very provocative viewing.
ThrobblefootSpectre: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: /All energy is ultimately solar energyWell, except for nuclear and geothermal.
poot_rootbeer: Israel had a president 99 years ago? During Palestine's Second Aliyah?/the first died in a place crash
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: All those radioactive elements were produced in supernovae. Hence, nuclear is solar.
ThrobblefootSpectre: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: All those radioactive elements were produced in supernovae. Hence, nuclear is solar.The term you are grasping at is stellar. The remnants of a supernova are stellar material, not solar.
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Semantics. You going to insist we start calling photovoltaic cells "stellar panels" now?
Fizpez: Just once I'd love to read one of these that ends with: "The team has already secured $2B in funding and construction of several industrial scale plants will begin in different states within three months."Five to ten years.... it's always friggin five to ten years.... except fusion... they've settled on 50 years as their mantra.
Soulcatcher: Maybe someone will figure out a way to make biofuel out of the plastic water bottles that will be covering every square inch of the planet 15 years from now.
fickenchucker: OgreMagi: lawboy87: BTW, this whole "FOOD CROPS" for ethanol is over-hyped as well. The vast majority of corn grown in the US (for at least the last 70 yrs or so) was never intended for human consumption. It is known commercially as "dent corn" (from the small "dent" in the kernel's top of most species) and is grown almost exclusively for animal feed and/or ethanol production.I think the problem was farmers switching from food corn to dent corn because there were higher profits from government subsidies and the growing biofuel market. This reduced the food crops which increased prices and that hurt the lower classes in Mexico the most.Came here to say this.To say "it was dent corn" is disingenuous. Eatin' corn was switched to dent corn, and dent corn became expensive for animals.
lawboy87: Here's some info from Iowa State University's Agronomy Extension program concerning corn production in the US.2007 - 93,600,000 Acres of "Dent Corn" planted nationwide2007 - 380,000 Acres of "Table/Sweet" Corn planted nationwide.BTW, according to an archived version New Jersey Agriculture Dept Publication from 1971, it showed at that time -1971 - 60,000,000 Acres of Dent Corn planted nationwide1971 - 640,000 Acres of Table/Sweet Corn planted nationwide.
lawboy87: In other words, for a long, long time in the US it has been a farming practice to put about 100 times or more acreage under seed for Dent/Field corn than for Table/Sweet corn. The primary reason is that animal feed demands a huge amount of corn and the typical cow is going to eat a significant amount more corn per year than the typical human.
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