Somacandra: FTFA: He also said his perspective as an Afghanistan war veteran will help him use the post to become a leader in veterans' affairs.

Huh. Didn't know that. Wonder if he had Secret Service protection during his time in an Asian land war.


On March 21, 2007, the United States Navy Reserve announced the selection of Bush for training as an intelligence officer through the direct commission officer program, a Navy initiative whereby applicants in specialized civilian fields forgo the eight-week boot camp and - instead - attend a 90-hour class on military history and customs.[18] Once commissioned as an Ensign for eight years of reserve service, he was expected to attend a year of intelligence training, initially assigned to duty near his home. Bush told The Politico that attending the October 2006 launch of the aircraft carrier named for his grandfather-the USS George H.W. Bush-inspired him to join the service. He also called the death of Pat Tillman, the NFL player and Army Ranger who was killed in a friendly fire incident in Afghanistan in 2004, "a wake-up call". When asked to comment, Bush's senior assistant, Kyle Hoskinson, stated: "the Pat Tillman case is one of the saddest in U.S. Army history."[19][20] Bush served in the War in Afghanistan for six months under the United States Special Operations Command and returned to the United States in 2011.[21][22] During that deployment, he was given a different name for security purposes. Not even those he was serving alongside knew his real identity.[10]

He was a f*cking pogue who sat at a desk for 6 months.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: NewportBarGuy: ramblinwreck: denigrate another military member's service

I think you're confusing "denigrate" with simply reporting his actual record, which was so obviously done to help build a portfolio with an eye towards a political future.

Give me a f*cking break. I did not call him a coward. I did not denigrate him. I simply pointed out what he did from wiki and made a comment based upon those facts. He understands the issues veterans face? No, not really.

When someone wants to take the easy road into a service with a phone call from a family friend, do a 6 month rotation on desk duty, talk about how the death or his good buddy in 2004 caused him to sign up.... THREE years later? Yeah, OK.

That's what this is. An argument about type of service. No... I just don't like people who use it for a political agenda like that, unless there is some serious distinction to their service. Aside from that? Those who served just served. That's it. It's not a bumper sticker to be bandied about.

When you use a derogatory word like "pogue," you denigrate his service.

Then take it as denigration. He was a f*ucking pogue. I stand by what I've said.

ramblinwreck: denigrate another military member's service

I think you're confusing "denigrate" with simply reporting his actual record, which was so obviously done to help build a portfolio with an eye towards a political future.

Give me a f*cking break. I did not call him a coward. I did not denigrate him. I simply pointed out what he did from wiki and made a comment based upon those facts. He understands the issues veterans face? No, not really.

When someone wants to take the easy road into a service with a phone call from a family friend, do a 6 month rotation on desk duty, talk about how the death or his good buddy in 2004 caused him to sign up.... THREE years later? Yeah, OK.

That's what this is. An argument about type of service. No... I just don't like people who use it for a political agenda like that, unless there is some serious distinction to their service. Aside from that? Those who served just served. That's it. It's not a bumper sticker to be bandied about.