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(ABC News)   Walmart spokesman: The e-mails released that show CEO was told about the bribes before they happened "leaves the wrong impression that our public statements {that we didn't know about the bribes} are contradicted" Baghdad Bob? Is that you?   ( abcnews.go.com) divider line
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2013-01-11 03:54:21 PM  
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The Stealth Hippopotamus: basemetal: Meh, I figure that many businesses have to grease the wheels both here and abroad to get things moving.

Would it be better if we called it fees? It's Mexico if you dont show up with a pocket full of 20s to hand out you won't even get of the airport grounds!

What Wal-mart did in this case was go WAY beyond garden-variety "grease the wheels to get a building permit faster" bribery.   They wanted build a Wal-Mart grocery store on a particular spot that was currently an Alfalfa farm.  There was a huge public outcry,  for a a lot of reasons and after the local planning commision looked at all the factors like traffic, cultural importance , etc,  they said "fark no" and drew a map that zoned that land exclusively for agricultural use.

In Mexico zoning maps are not offical until they are published in the offical government newspaper.(like our federal register)  Somehow between the time the map was drawn, and voted on, and the time it was published it got re-drawn in Wal-mart's favor, zoning the land they wanted as commercial-something Wal-mart knew was going to happen because they had already gone ahead and bought the farm.   Then they pretty much bought the local mayor and were allowed to build the store with no site plan, no building spections, no swere permits etc

The e-mails between Wal-Mex officials and the Betonville home office detail exactly how they pulled this off
2013-01-11 02:42:29 PM  
2 votes:

basemetal: Meh, I figure that many businesses have to grease the wheels both here and abroad to get things moving.

As a kid I learned, you don't get punished for the things you do, you get punished for getting caught. It's not about being right or wrong, it's about being smart or stupid.
2013-01-11 03:51:02 PM  
1 vote:

OptionC: I would say that in some countries, yes, because that is how business is done. I wouldn't suggest we import the system, since it is a pretty awful way to run a country, but there is no reason to put US companies at a severe disadvantage to their Asian and European competitors who have no such qualms when bidding on contracts in countries where casual corruption is a way of life.


In some countries, wholesale murder and pillaging are acceptable. If you don't set yourself up as a demigod and extract ivory from the natives, then you put yourself at a severe disadvantage.

/ exterminate all the brutes
2013-01-11 03:28:00 PM  
1 vote:
Ah, hello. Well first of all I'd like to apologize for the behaviour of certain of my colleagues you may have seen earlier, but they are from broken homes, circus families and so on and they are in no way representative of the new modern improved British Navy. They are a small vociferous minority; and may I take this opportunity of emphasizing that there is no cannibalism in the British Navy. Absolutely none, and when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount, more than we are prepared to admit, but all new ratings are warned that if they wake up in the morning and find any toothmarks at all anywhere on their bodies, they're to tell me immediately so that I can immediately take every measure to hush the whole thing up. And, finally, necrophilia is right out.
2013-01-11 02:34:27 PM  
1 vote:

basemetal: Meh, I figure that many businesses have to grease the wheels both here and abroad to get things moving.

Well, having taken all those awful training modules I can say there are ways to do it without breaking the laws.  The laws are pretty clear and straightforward.
2013-01-11 02:19:28 PM  
1 vote:
Impression?  Like the 'impression' a hammer leaves when beaten against one's forehead.

I will say I'm getting sick having to take a mess of training modules at work every time some other company farks up.
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