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2013-01-10 02:42:50 PM  
Auto-aim? What could possibly go wrong?
2013-01-10 02:53:19 PM  

Magorn: China White Tea: Stratohead: Dimensio: my big toe itches: Really cool technology, I hope it doesn't make its way into the private sector. I can see hunting becoming way too boring to do anymore.

I suspect that few hunters will be willing to spend $17,000 for a hunting tool.

you don't know many gun nuts do you?

Most of the gun nuts I know wouldn't look twice at a bolt-action. Too busy playing AR-Barbie dressup.

Different flavors of gun-nut.  Much like you can call both the kids who starts strapping "Type-R" stuff onto a Honda Civic, and the collector of antique Rolls-Royces "Car enthusiasts",  there are many subtle variantions of the "gun-nut" community:  The one who buy platic crap to make thier mini-14 look more "badass" are light years away from the ones who will drop the price of decent sportscar on a hand-made piece of European Shooting-iron with exotic wood stocks and a barrel machined to inhuman tolerances and perfectly adjusted sights

i am one of the latter.

the 1960s .270 i own (a sears heritage no less. made by FN... those belgians knew their craft) is one of the most accurate rifles i've ever owned, making oddly lopsided holes at 200 yards and cloverleafs at 400. granted i paid a song for it, but it's so dear to me that it's the only centerfire i will hunt with now, and will be passed down to the child/grandchild/great-grand that shows they would be the one to treasure it best and keep it.
but i would happily drop ten large for some of those really fantastic belgian/swiss guns. the swedes and finns make fantastic rifles too.
2013-01-10 04:22:08 PM  

Mazzic518: Gotta buy bullets from the company = nope ... even if I had the money

Yep. It's a 17k rental that is useless if you piss off the mother company and they won't sell you bullets. Or they go out of business in a year as is more probable.

Nifty tech concept I guess.
2013-01-10 04:22:11 PM  

xkillyourfacex: So what happens when you send snipers to combat with these weapons, which since they are auto correcting, did not require much training on part of the sniper... and the scope or computer is somehow damaged? How will the untrained sniper compensate to be an asset?

The military doesn't take technology for granted, typically. You're always trained how to do things the old fashioned way, even if it's extremely unlikely that you ever will. If you do ever have to do it the old fashioned way, chances are your life (or a friend's) will depend on it. Part of this is an acknowledgement that things will always go wrong in one way or another, and part of it is that there have been plenty of strategies in the past specifically designed to combat technology (jammers, ECM, EMP, etc).

Just about everyone and their brother has a GPS these days, but all those people are still trained how to find their way around with a map and compass, because GPS might not be there one day.
2013-01-10 04:37:59 PM  

cgraves67: So after you designate the target, will it keep calculating the shot in real time if the target is moving?

Yeah- that's the whole point. The basic concept has been around in aircraft for bombing since the 1940's according to Wikipedia.

The shooter looks through the sight, and marks the target. The scope puts a visual icon on top of the selected target (this icon knows where the target is, and will follow them around the scope). You pull the trigger, but the gun will not fire until you slew the aim-point back over the target. When the point of aim is close enough to the designated target the computer will automatically fire the gun for you, ensuring that the gun only fires when it's on-target. It's like those newfangled cameras that only take pictures when everyone is smiling, but for killing things.

In the modern aircraft terminology, this is similar to a bombing method called CCRP (continuously-computed release point). The pilot designates a target via GPS or coordinates or some other non-line-of-sight method. The on-board computer tells the pilot where to fly in order to release the bomb. When he's close, the pilot "gives consent" for the aircraft to release the bomb, and at the precise moment the computer automatically does it. This is used to increase bombing accuracy, and it allows you to perform bombing maneuvers that are traditionally unfeasible for a human pilot, such as "lobbing" a bomb over a hill like an artillery gun or mortar would, rather than traditionally dropping it.

The human is still in the loop, and they must consent to the bomb release before anything can happen. In the system in TFA the shooter is the one providing all of the trigger pressure, but the computer will unlock the trigger only when the target is in the crosshairs.
2013-01-10 05:00:45 PM  

Magorn: lewismarktwo: Stone Meadow: lewismarktwo: Stone Meadow: my big toe itches: Really cool technology, I hope it doesn't make its way into the private sector. I can see hunting becoming way too boring to do anymore.

That's what a former colleague says. He got bored hunting deer with a rifle, so bought a muzzle loader kit and built it. Within a season or two that was too easy, so he built a compound bow. Finally, he built a paleo bow from native wood, makes his own arrows, chips his own points, etc. NOW he says getting a deer is a proper challenge.

Pfft, call me when he atlatls.

Actually, I mentioned that to him once. He said he would have been all over it except that atlatls are illegal.

That makes no sense. An arrow can go just as awry as an atlatl dart.

Atlatals are a poorly understood, primative-looking weapon, so many state DNR type are not real eager to let it be used, out of concern for both other hunters and wildlife. Most places that restrict spear-hunting of one form or another do so because of concerns about the ability of the average user to make a clean kill with the weapon. Apparently there are a lot of people who want to hunt wild boar with a spear for instance, but the practice is heavily restrited over concerns that a wounded, but still living, wild boar is an extreme hazard that they'd prefer not to take the chance of creating.

Some people call it 'spear hunting'. I call it 'poking the deer with a broom so they stop eating my bushes'.

/I'm sure boars are evil and hard to kill. I don't know where anyone got the idea that deer are anything but newbie zone.
2013-01-10 05:25:52 PM  
It's GNU/Linux, not GUN/Linux.
2013-01-10 06:43:47 PM  
Hax aimbot.

/now we wait for the wall hack so we can shoot deer trough trees
//Or with bullets that go trough trees, your choice
2013-01-10 07:06:32 PM  
Just because.

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2013-01-10 07:17:32 PM  

Burr: That's nothing...I talk their mother into killing them.

Heh, nice.
2013-01-10 07:26:24 PM  
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2013-01-10 07:56:56 PM  
So it installs Windows 7 for you?

Good for them to finally realize what works.

/yeah we don't need the gun thing either
2013-01-10 10:20:17 PM  
No M56 Smart Gun reference yet?

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