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BumpInTheNight

2013-01-07 04:43:09 PM

Raptop

2013-01-07 05:02:21 PM

I call BS

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad

2013-01-07 05:05:32 PM

Spank your horrible children.

Occam's Disposable Razor

2013-01-07 05:05:50 PM

This is one dude from a Catholic college who is described as "professor of psychology who specializes in moral development in children." I imagine his entire job is basically finding data to keep his panties in a wad.

had98c

2013-01-07 05:07:32 PM

An article trying to tell me how to raise my kid? Get bent article writer.

/USA!

LowbrowDeluxe

2013-01-07 05:08:02 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor: This is one dude from a Catholic college who is described as "professor of psychology who specializes in moral development in children." I imagine his entire job is basically finding data to keep his panties in a wad.

I'm going to go with this explanation.

jayhawk88

2013-01-07 05:11:39 PM

You see? You let Sociology departments on college campuses go unchallenged, and this is the kind of crap you get!

12349876

2013-01-07 05:12:45 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Spank your horrible children.

Someone didn't RTFA.

And for all those who also won't, this article is arguing for MORE nurturing for the infants. More breast feeding, more physical contact, less sleeping alone and 'crying it out'.

gaspode

2013-01-07 05:13:43 PM

I would venture that impaired brain development causes a lot of modern parenting..

Moonfisher

2013-01-07 05:14:07 PM

I nursed mine, let them sleep between us when they wanted to and quickly learned how to keep them content so they scarcely cried. I had a few jackasses warn me about how they would become clingy and spoiled and never develop independence. They are now 6 and 4, share a room, make their own sandwiches, and their teachers report that they are well-behaved, self-motivated and sweet. It's almost like treating your kids like kids and making them feel secure helps them become confident and considerate. Studies have proven time and again that comforting your children and having physical contact with them boosts IQ and emotional stability.

phlegmmo

2013-01-07 05:15:03 PM

"Leaving me to just 'cry it out'? Oh, you'll pay for this... you'll all pay."

iaazathot

2013-01-07 05:15:10 PM

My wife and I let our daughter sleep with us until she was 18 months old. We just weaned her at two and a half, and she gets a lot of physical contact from us and others in the form of hugs, sitting in our laps reading, and snuggling in bed with us after she wakes up.

The one thing everyone says about her is how happy and outgoing she is and easy to deal with. Although we get some acting out behavior associated with her being 2+, she is a dream to be around 95% of the time and seems far ahead of a lot of the other kids in her daycare in language, counting, and social interaction.

We specifically thought about many of the things this article mentions and decided to not follow common child rearing practices. So far so good.

that was my nickname in highschool

2013-01-07 05:16:18 PM

Teh article in a nutshell: Multiple variables influence multiple outcomes in a heterogeneous population experiencing various outside influences over long periods of time.

The My Little Pony Killer

2013-01-07 05:16:41 PM

I have a cousin who has a baby and one on the way. The baby recently stopped breastfeeding (on his own), but she has expressed hope that he would want to pick it back up again when he sees his new sibling doing it. Sometimes, you need to just learn to let go.

Frankenstorm

2013-01-07 05:16:51 PM

Zombie parenting encourages a hunger for knowledge.

Summer Glau's Love Slave

2013-01-07 05:17:25 PM

One of the things that amazed me the most about living at college was how inept many of my fellow students are. I've had housemates who literally had no idea how to operate a stove or a washing machine. I have a roomie who believes with all his heart that you just dump the frozen orange juice into the pitcher and drink the syrup without adding a drop of water. He set himself on fire last fall because he tried to start a fire by pouring a quart of gasoline on the wood before kneeling down to light it.

I've seen (and smelled) other kids who would go an entire semester without cleaning their clothes or bathing their bods. One of guys who lives across from me ruined a brand new car because he poured water into the oil intake when his car started running hot. And just a few days ago, a girl in who lives on my block shattered her windshield when she used a pan of boiling water to de-ice her windshield.

/And when you ask, Mommy and Daddy did everything for them at home.
//Never a dull moment.
///Feeling a little smug now.
////I get money to sew on buttons and repair clothes, because I'm bootstrappy.

KatjaMouse

2013-01-07 05:18:07 PM

My mom was considered something of a revolutionary when she told her friends that she intended to breast feed. However, apparently, I was having none of it and opted for starvation for the better part of my first week of life until my grandmother came over with a pallet of formula.

I also hated it when my parents showed me spontaneous affection. It's a miracle I didn't grow up and become a serial killer.

GF named my left testicle thundercles

2013-01-07 05:18:18 PM

i read somewhere that not comforting your baby with touching and caring triggers its brain to prepare for harcore survival mode. its brain thinks that the parents are stressed out and the environment is a shiathole so the brain makes the kid turn into a badass farker to prepare for life in said hellhole.

lohphat

2013-01-07 05:19:12 PM

12349876: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Spank your horrible children.

Someone didn't RTFA.

And for all those who also won't, this article is arguing for MORE nurturing for the infants. More breast feeding, more physical contact, less sleeping alone and 'crying it out'.

Spanking IS "more physical contact". Duh.

phlegmmo

2013-01-07 05:20:14 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: I have a roomie who believes with all his heart that you just dump the frozen orange juice into the pitcher and drink the syrup without adding a drop of water. He set himself on fire last fall because he tried to start a fire by pouring a quart of gasoline on the wood before kneeling down to light it.

Get out now before he kills you both.

lohphat

2013-01-07 05:22:16 PM

What are you supposed to do with a infant or toddler that sleeps only 3 hours at a time as is prone to tantrums? Go without sleep and then go over the edge and kill it?

Natural selection at work, I guess. Problematic infants were a burden to the tribe and were abandoned.

Now we "nurture" them and their psychopathic behavior allowing them to procreate when they get older, perpetuating the bad genes.

That's why we have so many CEO-types infecting or society.

/amidoingitriteguise?

Thraeryn

2013-01-07 05:23:12 PM

So: act like you love your kid and it'll develop well.

Nice work there, Lou.

Pinner

2013-01-07 05:23:20 PM

I've been a hands off parent.
My kids fall asleep when they are ready to go down. Sometimes on the floor at the movies, or at school, where they get As and Bs. They cry uncontrollably for some reason when they hear sirens, enjoy sticking firecrackers in frogs' mouths in the summer and laugh when fat people fall down on You Tube. The only time they shake hands is if they are making a bet, and rarely make eye contact. They always seem to have money.

LarryDan43

2013-01-07 05:24:17 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: One of the things that amazed me the most about living at college was how inept many of my fellow students are. I've had housemates who literally had no idea how to operate a stove or a washing machine. I have a roomie who believes with all his heart that you just dump the frozen orange juice into the pitcher and drink the syrup without adding a drop of water. He set himself on fire last fall because he tried to start a fire by pouring a quart of gasoline on the wood before kneeling down to light it.

I've seen (and smelled) other kids who would go an entire semester without cleaning their clothes or bathing their bods. One of guys who lives across from me ruined a brand new car because he poured water into the oil intake when his car started running hot. And just a few days ago, a girl in who lives on my block shattered her windshield when she used a pan of boiling water to de-ice her windshield.

/And when you ask, Mommy and Daddy did everything for them at home.
//Never a dull moment.
///Feeling a little smug now.
////I get money to sew on buttons and repair clothes, because I'm bootstrappy.

We are Penn State.

ringersol

2013-01-07 05:26:47 PM

TFA: "Also, early deficits can be made up later, she says."

... doesn't this basically throw out the entire argument?
"If you're not doing X, the child's gonna turn out wrong. Unless, of course, you do X later. Then they'll be fine."

That seems to suggest the car seats and formula have jack and shiat to do with it and the key is just to not let your kid go through their *entire life* devoid of support, care and self-expression.

Gelatinous

2013-01-07 05:28:13 PM

phlegmmo: Summer Glau's Love Slave: I have a roomie who believes with all his heart that you just dump the frozen orange juice into the pitcher and drink the syrup without adding a drop of water. He set himself on fire last fall because he tried to start a fire by pouring a quart of gasoline on the wood before kneeling down to light it.
Get out now before he kills you both.

Really. That's some Idiocracy shiat right there.

stirfrybry

2013-01-07 05:29:03 PM

Adam Lanza was breastfed

FarkinHostile

2013-01-07 05:29:18 PM

My dog did the cutest thing the other day...

kombat_unit

2013-01-07 05:29:51 PM

KatjaMouse: My mom was considered something of a revolutionary when she told her friends that she intended to breast feed. However, apparently, I was having none of it and opted for starvation for the better part of my first week of life until my grandmother came over with a pallet of formula.

I also hated it when my parents showed me spontaneous affection. It's a miracle I didn't grow up and become a serial killer.

Give it time. Mutilate a few neighborhood pets, to whet your appetite.

SubjectVerb

2013-01-07 05:29:57 PM

I am going to follow everything my mother did (which is wrong according to this idiot author) since I scored off the charts on all standardized tests and graduated college with a 4.0.

/not bragging, offering evidence that this article is BS

Orange-Pippin

2013-01-07 05:31:52 PM

Raptop: I call BS

I think they may have a point. For example, cartoons. I don't have a television, but recently I was visiting my brothers family and they had the TV on--all day--with cartoons. The cartoons were all way too loud and each character spent the entire time screaming at each other--not talking--yelling. Dora-the-explorer is an example of this. Afterwards,my husband and I noticed how loud my brothers children are and how loud all their childrens friends were. After sitting in front of the TV for 3 hours a day, then watching this same nonsense at daycare for a few hours and then being surrounded by peers who also watch the same cartoons/advertisements -- it really does have a profound influence on developement. The TV is very much part of modern parenting and I don't think its helping the situation.

Surpheon

2013-01-07 05:32:45 PM

SubjectVerb: I am going to follow everything my mother did (which is wrong according to this idiot author) since I scored off the charts on all standardized tests and graduated college with a 4.0.

/not bragging, offering evidence that this article is BS

With hardcore anecdote-as-proof reasoning there, well... I'm sure you can weave some great baskets in any depth of water with your degree.

Smeggy Smurf

2013-01-07 05:33:25 PM

Rules of good parenting:

1. Reward good behavior
2. Beat the bad behavior out of them
3. Nevermind fear of God, Fear of Dad (TM) comes first
4. Encourage them to not be little shiats
5. Beat them when they're little shiats
6. Teach them life is hard, then you die

Clemkadidlefark

2013-01-07 05:34:33 PM

No shiat

GF named my left testicle thundercles

2013-01-07 05:35:32 PM

youre very smart so you should know that you are just a single data point.

btw what major?

profplump

2013-01-07 05:36:32 PM

lohphat: What are you supposed to do with a infant or toddler that sleeps only 3 hours at a time as is prone to tantrums? Go without sleep and then go over the edge and kill it?

You don't relegate it to the care of a single person (or two people) -- you let a whole slew of people take turns caring for it.

The isolation caused by "families" is one of the worst things civilization has ever produced. We now live physically closer together than ever before and somehow we have less caregivers available per child.

preybyemail

2013-01-07 05:38:47 PM

It takes a village man.

Evil Twin Skippy

2013-01-07 05:39:43 PM

Raptop: I call BS

I call double BS. It starts off with how formula is the devil and breast feeding is best, and proceeds to lose credibility from there.

Strangelove MD

2013-01-07 05:39:45 PM

Do they mean for the brains of the kids or parents?

/Who am I kidding, it is probably both.

gadian

2013-01-07 05:40:35 PM

My toddler's most common utterances are "Hug!", "Tisses! (kisses), and "Tick-tick" (tickles), so I think I've done well and continue to do well in the physical nurturing part seeing as though he's an affectionate and happy, mostly tantrum-free little dude. I would like to be more physical with him though and better about not letting him see me sitting on my ass all day. We've recently begun dancing to Wiggles dvds together and those really do give you a sort of work out if you do it right. We've also recently started going for long walks in the afternoons if it's anywhere near 0f or above. "Tree!", "Buwd!", "SNOW!!!" *leap head first into snow bank*

Damn Wiggles, doing jumping jacks and jogging in place is not dancing *grumble*.

DrCalx

2013-01-07 05:42:23 PM

How's your social life? Feeling balanced?

Holocaust Agnostic

2013-01-07 05:42:33 PM

profplump: lohphat: What are you supposed to do with a infant or toddler that sleeps only 3 hours at a time as is prone to tantrums? Go without sleep and then go over the edge and kill it?

You don't relegate it to the care of a single person (or two people) -- you let a whole slew of people take turns caring for it.

The isolation caused by "families" is one of the worst things civilization has ever produced. We now live physically closer together than ever before and somehow we have less caregivers available per child.

But if we don't do the nuclear family thing how will we know who can visit you at hospitals!?!

BeerGraduate

2013-01-07 05:43:25 PM

I think modern paintings' abstract qualities are great for brains.

Smelly Pirate Hooker

2013-01-07 05:48:35 PM

Sure, it's about time somebody came up with a fresh group of reasons why some parents should feel incompetent while making another group of parents feel smug.

The whole point of having children is to prove you can do it better than everyone else. Right?

Alonjar

2013-01-07 05:48:54 PM

This is why I don't parent my children... I'm going with the free range strategy. Just scatter some feed from time to time and let nature do the rest.

dopekitty74

2013-01-07 05:53:08 PM

Color me unsurprised. The lack of outdoor unrestricted playtime is one of the worst losses kids (and parents) have to deal with these days.

Smelly Pirate Hooker

2013-01-07 05:53:38 PM

Sure. Families are the problem.

When my mom needed some time off from us kids, she just dropped us off at a neighbor's house. OK, so they pimped us out for drug money a couple times, but I call that a learning experience. Now we know to always get the money up front.

letrole

2013-01-07 05:56:34 PM

The obvious conclusion is that parents can be fairly honest about the methods they use, but completely full of shiat about the results.

Self-reporting is useless.

Just go to Walmart, see how the good and bad kids act in relation to the parents. As a side observation, check out the purchases the parents make.

It doesn't matter if you beat kids senseless or if you let them breastfeed until they're five. Parenting isn't a tactic.

ennuie

2013-01-07 05:57:46 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Rules of good parenting:

1. Reward good behavior
2. Beat the bad behavior out of them
3. Nevermind fear of God, Fear of Dad (TM) comes first
4. Encourage them to not be little shiats
5. Beat them when they're little shiats
6. Teach them life is hard, then you die

#6 made me the miserable bastard I am today. Double points if you use it to justify your own bad parental behavior.

//You forgot #7 "There's always someone better." If you don't tell your kids that, they might grow up thinking they could be good at things through hard work and perseverance.

El Dudereno

2013-01-07 05:58:58 PM

iaazathot: My wife and I let our daughter sleep with us until she was 18 months old. We just weaned her at two and a half, and she gets a lot of physical contact from us and others in the form of hugs, sitting in our laps reading, and snuggling in bed with us after she wakes up.

The one thing everyone says about her is how happy and outgoing she is and easy to deal with. Although we get some acting out behavior associated with her being 2+, she is a dream to be around 95% of the time and seems far ahead of a lot of the other kids in her daycare in language, counting, and social interaction.

We specifically thought about many of the things this article mentions and decided to not follow common child rearing practices. So far so good.

Seconded. All of that.

Ours is 3.375 years old now. Not sure on causation, but my experience has been similar.

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