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(Some Guy)   Apparently Linus Torvalds can channel Steve Jobs when he wants to. (warning: serious nerdspeak mixed with Not safe for work language)   ( article.gmane.org) divider line
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2012-12-30 06:56:05 PM  

WayToBlue: Trollin4Colon: The Olympic shot-putter?

You're thinking of Torvald Utne.

Do you not even skim the briefings in your inbox?

I have an inbox?
2012-12-31 12:42:28 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: Phil Payne: Torvalds is correct in every point in this. If a program works before a kernel commit and doesn't afterwards it is obviously the kernel fix that broke things. What the maintainer is doing is like saying a car was running just fine until you put water in the gas tank and start blaming the radio because the car wont run.

Just out of curiosity...

if a program has worked for a very long time by doing something that it should never had been able to do, say by exploiting a known bug in the OS. And then along comes a patch that fixes the bug in the OS and the program stops working, that is considered something to be avoided because it "breaks a userspace application" and therefore is bad?

That is correct.

The way they handle this in other situations, is by maintaining the bad behavior, but printing big scary warnings to console, for several years, before committing a fix that changes it.
2012-12-31 08:38:34 AM  
Advice to guy that Torvalds beat down: RTFM.
2012-12-31 03:19:19 PM  
I don't know boo about Linux code, but it seems from the simple tone of the email that Mauro had done this sort of blamestorming before, and Linus may just have gotten tired of it. If you manage, you manage, and when your subordinates regularly refuse to heed warnings and recommendations (often given for their own benefit AND that of their manager's, since "no such thing as bad student, only bad teacha") you have to kick it up a notch.

Then again Torvalds may just be an asshole, which is his right. He invented it, and despite the fact he may believe that Linux is open-source and driven/improved by the users, people still have a myopia about criticism or alteration of the things they create (see children, microbrews, cars and weaponry).
2013-01-01 01:29:47 AM  
Any of you HOMOS break user space, I'll kill you
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