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		When Darth Vader tells you to step back, he means it. Woman gets $260 fine for getting a mouthful of pepper spray during Occupy protest. With throat-on-fire inducing picture ( katu.com)		251
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cretinbob

2012-12-22 07:47:50 AM

I got something that'll soothe that throat

Shadowknight

2012-12-22 08:38:04 AM

Holy hell that looked brutal.

Shadowknight

2012-12-22 08:40:56 AM

Also, look at the jackass behind her. It looks like he is holding her arm. Almost like he pulled her in front of him. Nothing like a human shield with a mild resemblance to Hermione Granger.

BunkyBrewman

2012-12-22 08:46:22 AM

Shadowknight: [media.katu.com image 660x454]

Also, look at the jackass behind her. It looks like he is holding her arm. Almost like he pulled her in front of him. Nothing like a human shield with a mild resemblance to Hermione Granger.

...or he's trying to pull her back.

Shadowknight

2012-12-22 09:05:56 AM

BunkyBrewman: ...or he's trying to pull her back.

You believe your reality, I'll believe mine.

In truth, I know he wasn't holding her there as a shield. A camera catches a moment in time, and he could have been pulling her back, holding her, giving her a back rub, or any number of things at the time. It's just funny to think of some guy going "oh shiat!" and ducking behind the nearest tiny woman.

AbbeySomeone

2012-12-22 09:14:37 AM

Shadowknight: BunkyBrewman: ...or he's trying to pull her back.

You believe your reality, I'll believe mine.

In truth, I know he wasn't holding her there as a shield. A camera catches a moment in time, and he could have been pulling her back, holding her, giving her a back rub, or any number of things at the time. It's just funny to think of some guy going "oh shiat!" and ducking behind the nearest tiny woman.

As someone familiar with protester and police behavior in that city I'm not getting a kick out of this.

/he was trying to pull her away
//PDX women are mouthy b*tches
///native

Nabb1

2012-12-22 09:17:49 AM

Shadowknight

2012-12-22 09:19:33 AM

Was she ok? I know from personal experience how painful that stuff is, and I never swallowed a lungful of it. I'd rather be tased a couple more times because once that is done, the pain STOPS. Not so much with the CS.

And as a medic, I know people can have severe reactions to it and difficulty breathing under even optimal usages. Can't imagine catching it in the throat like that.

poonesfarm

2012-12-22 09:38:12 AM

That's a hot facial.

Amos Quito

2012-12-22 09:42:31 AM

And they call the ones on the left "occupiers".

BunkyBrewman

2012-12-22 09:42:53 AM

I'm rethinking my answer. Since he's a hipster, I'll go with your first impression.

It is quite the picture. Yes, I LOL'd. I know, it's not really funny but the whole scenario must have played out by "MOVE BACK" "NO! WE'RE NOT MOVING ANYWHERE" "MOVE BACK" "NO!" "OK THEN" "WARRGGGBLBLLL... ACK!"

Pepper spray. It freshens the breath, reduces plaque AND is fun at protests.

Amos Quito

2012-12-22 09:47:24 AM

The First Amendment.

Now with Peppery Goodness.

AverageAmericanGuy

2012-12-22 09:49:04 AM

This pictures needs a couple changes.

1. Woman holding up victory (or peace, whatever) sign should be holding up an 'L' for loser sign
2. At least one helmet ought to be marked with 'CSB'

Bonus kudos if the faux-houndstooth blouse can be turned into a video game t-shirt.

Amos Quito

2012-12-22 09:51:15 AM

ZAZ

2012-12-22 10:01:37 AM

An Occupy Portland protester who was blasted in the face with pepper spray was found guilty this week of ignoring police orders and will now have to pay a fine.

The judge had to find her guilty to protect police from her lawsuit.

SilentStrider

2012-12-22 10:03:59 AM

Great. And she can send the cop her hospital bill.

jehovahs witness protection

2012-12-22 10:22:27 AM

This is what opening a can of STFU might look like.

tenpoundsofcheese

2012-12-22 10:23:03 AM

Shadowknight: In truth, I know he wasn't holding her there as a shield.

how do you "know" this?

look at his expression and where he is looking

Shadowknight

2012-12-22 10:36:55 AM

SilentStrider: Great. And she can send the cop her hospital bill.

You're missing a big point though. Judge found her guilty of not obeying a lawful order from police. Thus, police are not liable for what happened.

It sucks, but you ARE trained to aim for the face. As it blinds you, and makes it rather uncomfortable to breathe, it tends to take the fight out of a person rather quickly. But wide open like that... damn, that had to suck.

gilgigamesh

2012-12-22 10:40:36 AM

ZAZ: An Occupy Portland protester who was blasted in the face with pepper spray was found guilty this week of ignoring police orders and will now have to pay a fine.

The judge had to find her guilty to protect police from her lawsuit.

Probably. Even if that wasn't the intent, it is the effect. Since the state has a higher burden of proof in a criminal matter than a civil, a finding that the police acted reasonably in some fashion would mean her suit is now dead in the water.

buntz

2012-12-22 10:41:37 AM

Fart_Machine

2012-12-22 10:41:55 AM

Nem Wan

2012-12-22 10:42:15 AM

A court of law has a predetermined bias in favor of the law and therefore someone who disagrees with the fundamental premise that the law should be followed is not going to get a fair hearing.

jack_sawyer75

2012-12-22 10:42:17 AM

Bahahahaha . Inhale. Bahahahaha !

Hiro-ACiD

2012-12-22 10:44:10 AM

/it pays to recycle

Esn

2012-12-22 10:44:11 AM

For some reason, things like this never happened at the Tea Party rallies. I wonder why.

The Tea Partiers acted all hurt and oppressed, but they were never actually hurt or oppressed.

fragMasterFlash

2012-12-22 10:44:50 AM

Wow, she must have absolutely no gag reflex whatsoever.

Jon H

2012-12-22 10:45:35 AM

Not very smart. Remember the name Liz Nichols. Coming soon to a theater near you.

Raharu

2012-12-22 10:47:30 AM

I bet that officer felt very Threatened by her.

MDGeist

2012-12-22 10:47:32 AM

Of course the judge backed the cop, got to protect the land of the free police state.

chewielouie

2012-12-22 10:47:38 AM

way south

2012-12-22 10:48:32 AM

You wanted more government.
You got a mouthful of it.

/only police can be trusted to properly use weapons so we can assume that pepper spray was being properly used.

give me doughnuts

2012-12-22 10:49:32 AM

Shadowknight: SilentStrider: Great. And she can send the cop her hospital bill.

You're missing a big point though. Judge found her guilty of not obeying a lawful order from police. Thus, police are not liable for what happened.

It sucks, but you ARE trained to aim for the face. As it blinds you, and makes it rather uncomfortable to breathe, it tends to take the fight out of a person rather quickly. But wide open like that... damn, that had to suck.

Ruless 2 and 3 of the "Quick Silver" method: If a man cannot see, he cannot fight. If a man cannot breathe, he cannot fight.

sloshed_again

2012-12-22 10:49:37 AM

Not the best way to get that taste out of your mouth.

TheOther

2012-12-22 10:49:40 AM

If that woman had been armed, this would never have happened.

Remington 870: for all your 1st Amendment needs.

kwame

2012-12-22 10:50:41 AM

Nem Wan: A court of law has a predetermined bias in favor of the law and therefore someone who disagrees with the fundamental premise that the law should be followed is not going to get a fair hearing.

Or: you don't get a mouthful of pepper spray when you follow the directives of law enforcement.

TexasPeace

2012-12-22 10:51:50 AM

Guilty of not following police orders?
What if he ordered her to ... ... ...?

Animatronik

2012-12-22 10:53:03 AM

Esn: For some reason, things like this never happened at the Tea Party rallies. I wonder why.

The Tea Partiers acted all hurt and oppressed, but they were never actually hurt or oppressed.

That's because they didn't fight with the police, get a mouthful of pepper spray, and a fine.

/I have no sympathy with angry rioters because you can hold peaceful demonstrations in the U.S. and we have free elections. If ppl really were oppressed here, it would be different.

kwame

2012-12-22 10:53:05 AM

Raharu: I bet that officer felt very Threatened by her.

Good point. He should have just stood there and argued with her.

chewielouie

2012-12-22 10:53:40 AM

gilgigamesh: ZAZ: An Occupy Portland protester who was blasted in the face with pepper spray was found guilty this week of ignoring police orders and will now have to pay a fine.

The judge had to find her guilty to protect police from her lawsuit.

Probably. Even if that wasn't the intent, it is the effect. Since the state has a higher burden of proof in a criminal matter than a civil, a finding that the police acted reasonably in some fashion would mean her suit is now dead in the water.

No and no.

sloshed_again

2012-12-22 10:53:41 AM

TexasPeace: Guilty of not following police orders?
What if he ordered her to ... ... ...?

Comply or you will be assimilated.

airsupport

2012-12-22 10:55:26 AM

I guess that peace sign isn't doing much good now, is it, hippie?

Why didn't she just hold up her Macbook Pro to deflect the pepper spray?

BarkingUnicorn

2012-12-22 10:58:42 AM

The civil grievance of "excessive force" is not disproved by her conviction for failing to obey a lawful order. However, I don't think the force used will be found excessive.

AntonChigger

2012-12-22 10:59:13 AM

buntz:

You sir, are a winner.

Saberus Terras

2012-12-22 10:59:38 AM

She sued for excessive force? I think for an officer in riot gear, pepper spray is the least lethal weapon he had, because words have clearly failed.

Not trying to support the police or any corruption therein, just an opinion. She's lucky she got cheeto'd over beat with a baton or shot. Now if he'd knocked her down and sprayed her from a few inches away, I'd agree that's too far, as the stream from those canisters can pierce the skin or eye at that close.

strangeguitar

2012-12-22 10:59:46 AM

buntz: [i.imgur.com image 660x454]

I guffawed quite loudly.

Nice jerb.

Mrbogey

2012-12-22 11:00:35 AM

Esn: For some reason, things like this never happened at the Tea Party rallies. I wonder why.

The Tea Partiers acted all hurt and oppressed, but they were never actually hurt or oppressed.

The Tea Party knows not to antagonize the cops? That's the one class of citizens(cops are citizens) that if you antagonize you will be assaulted and it will most of the times be legal.

Esn

2012-12-22 11:04:31 AM

Animatronik: Esn: For some reason, things like this never happened at the Tea Party rallies. I wonder why.

The Tea Partiers acted all hurt and oppressed, but they were never actually hurt or oppressed.

That's because they didn't fight with the police, get a mouthful of pepper spray, and a fine.

/I have no sympathy with angry rioters because you can hold peaceful demonstrations in the U.S. and we have free elections. If ppl really were oppressed here, it would be different.

What do you call this, then:
"when Americans with different income levels differ in their policy preferences, actual policy outcomes strongly reflect the preferences of the most affluent but bear virtually no relationship to the preferences of poor or middle-income Americans."
-Inequality and Democratic Responsiveness (2005 study by Martin Gilens from Oxford University)

If I remember correctly, the Occupy people made a point of being peaceful. It didn't help. They were harassed, infiltrated, and ultimately discredited.

The Tea Partiers were left alone because their interests coincided with those of the elite. They had the largest domestic news network promoting and helping them. OWS had... well, they had RT, I guess. Which counts for a little, but not that much.

AverageAmericanGuy

2012-12-22 11:07:13 AM

Don't you guys get it, man?

The Occupy Movement makes the Powers-That-Be scared and when they get scared they send in their jackbooted thugs. Attack a bank? That's a beating. Exercise your right to protest? That's a beating. March peacefully in solidarity? That's a beating.

You know why the TEA PARTY didn't get the cops sicced on them because they <b>are</b> the Establishment. They are a front for the Koch Brothers, and are used to consolidate power for the right wing Capitalists.

Occupy is about Freedom. The Tea Party is about racism and crushing the working man.

That's why the unarmed woman in this picture is getting brutalized by the police in riot gear.

lordjupiter

2012-12-22 11:07:24 AM

Ok, so let me get it straight...there's NOTHING wrong with the system or the government and these smelly hippies need to shut up (to hell with their rights under the 1st Amendment) and just DO WHAT THE GOVERNMENT/COPS SAY ... but the government is also oppressive and can't be trusted because they'll send the police and military after us any day now, so Tea Partiers need unlimited guns (2nd Amendment) to protect themselves from that same government....that they also protested against....but that they support when macing hippies....but don't trust.....but that doesn't mean the hippies are right....or something.

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