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(MSNBC)   Scientists confirm what fat people have known for years: joggers are dumb   ( msnbc.msn.com) divider line
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2012-12-10 06:06:21 PM  
6 votes:
Urban jogging may be making you dumber

Urbane jogging, on the other hand, enriches your life as you jog down the street with a leather-bound copy of A Tale of Two Cities in one hand and a brandy snifter in the other hand.
2012-12-10 07:26:32 PM  
3 votes:
I don't get jogging. Biking i get. Swimming i get. If I'm running it's because something is chasing me. The idea of running for pleasure is just whack.
2012-12-10 08:12:05 PM  
2 votes:
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2012-12-10 07:58:15 PM  
2 votes:
If you actually want to get in shape, lift heavy things once a week for 30 minutes and you'll be fine.

Also, sleep more and eat right.
2012-12-10 05:35:24 PM  
2 votes:
Well at least they're not as dumb as bicyclists are.
2012-12-10 11:38:25 PM  
1 vote:
WTF is all this nonsense about running being bad for the knees? If you have a poor gait, or a skeletal misalignment, and don't get yourself checked out, then there will be problems. If you feel an injury-type hurt, then maybe you need to figure out what's wrong, heal up, and get back to it. Running properly has been shown to strengthen joints and increase their function.

Swimming is good, but if your form is wrong, you can tear up your shoulders doing crawl.

HIIT is good stuff, and right now I'm doing Insanity to increase my speed and power, because I was lacking that with just doing runs. A good running plan has intervals and speed training, and not just plodding.

Crossfit is interesting, but I know of a lot of trainers who think it is injuries waiting to happen. Not having proper form... oh wait = injuries just like everything else.

/has been hit by cars twice while running... I bounced off them when they made right turns without looking :P
2012-12-10 09:48:50 PM  
1 vote:

Acharne: It just seems so odd that suddenly, a reasonably healthy person should drop dead from something other than a bullet.

Also, the problem is that even though they outwardly look healthy, they are not. People who have heart attacks can be in the prime of their life, able to run 15 miles a day, and eat like a grazing animal. That's the fallacy of saying heart disease is strictly the realm of the obese and sedentary. While these are INDEED major risk factors for it, they are not the only ones.

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Early recognition that something is going on is the way people save lives. Often times, people who are having a heart attack write it off as indigestion or a sudden illness, and ignore the symptoms until it's too late.
2012-12-10 09:44:12 PM  
1 vote:

bacongood: cjoshuav: Elzar: Joggers are dumb - runners on the other hand are farking awesome.

/ Slower then 10min/mi pace - you are a farking jogger

2:05:13 on my last Half. I'm a runner?

Don't listen to anyone with stupid pace cutoffs for runners.

Seriously. By the apparent definition of some of these people, I'm probably moving backwards. But my knees feel great.
2012-12-10 09:42:17 PM  
1 vote:

Acharne: BronyMedic: fulminant

Here is a question for you, since I know you probably know, but what tends to be the cause of what I suppose is a 'Fulminant' heart attack. But that I means, why suddenly would the muscle fall out of rythym? Bad electrical firing? A slow and accumulating lack of oxygen? This whole 'It was working and then it suddenly stopped working' is naturally terrifying, but it seems so random. Heart disease is one thing for sure, but that's not a sudden, sharp change. I think I'm fouling up how I'm asking, I hope you'll see what I'm asking. It just seems so odd that suddenly, a reasonably healthy person should drop dead from something other than a bullet.

The word Fulminant itself just means sudden and severe. For example. someone who overdoses on massive amounts of Tylenol might experience Fulminant liver failure in the next three days. The opposite of it is insidious, which means it was slow and stealthy. You really don't use it to describe heart attacks anymore because of a change in the culture of how they are treated - i.e. Time is Muscle. The more time you waste just treating symptoms, the more heart muscle becomes irrevocably dead. They need an ER to deliver TPA, a cath lab, or they need an OR to re-perfuse that heart muscle.

What happens in a "heart attack", or a myocardial infarction is a part of the coronary arterial branch becomes blocked, either through vasospasm - like you would see in a Cocaine-induced heart attack, through a thrombus or an emboli (Like you see in most heart attacks), or through an interruption in the coronary pathway - like an aortic aneurysm or direct trauma to the chest. The most deadly kind of heart attacks are known as a ST-Segment Elevation Myocardial Infarction, which are named because of the 12-lead EKG changes that will be seen associated with the branch of the coronary artery that is completely blocked. You can also have Q-Wave MI, which means the heart attack has been going on for a long period of time, and NSTEMI, which means the heart is ischemic, but not completely blocked. That cardiac muscle depends on two things, and two things alone to survive - oxygen and glucose. When it doesn't get the oxygen it needs to continue to function, it cannot depolarize like normal. The heart muscle becomes irritable, and begins firing erratically. This erratic firing can cause the heart to go into a fatal, non-perfusing rhythm, either Ventricular Tachycardia without a Pulse, or Ventricular Fibrillation. This is what is known as a Sudden Cardiac Arrest. At that point, the only thing that will save their lives is immediate, effective CPR, coupled with either an AED, or the rapid response of an Advanced Life Support-capable ambulance, and rapid transport to a definitive cardiac care facility.

This is why people are taught if they are afraid they are having a heart attack to call 911, and not drive themselves to the hospital. The number one killer of people who have heart attacks are lethal arrhythmias in the first 24-48 hours after.

You'll forgive me for linking to wikipedia on this, because MI is the kind of thing you can literally write textbooks on trying to explain it.

What happened in Jim Fixx's case was that he ignored the symptoms of myocardial ischemia (heart muscle starved for oxygen but still able to survive), caused by a narrowing of his coronary artery which limited the blood-flow to the myocardium, for weeks before he collapsed dead in sudden cardiac arrest. When the coronary artery became occluded, his heart muscle was so irritable and stressed that he immediately went into a lethal heart arrhythmia and died. Fixx was a classic case of sudden cardiac death.
2012-12-10 09:26:25 PM  
1 vote:

cjoshuav: Elzar: Joggers are dumb - runners on the other hand are farking awesome.

/ Slower then 10min/mi pace - you are a farking jogger

2:05:13 on my last Half. I'm a runner?

Don't listen to anyone with stupid pace cutoffs for runners.
2012-12-10 08:23:11 PM  
1 vote:

t3knomanser: It can't be done in my living room.

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/just saying
//all your other cardio suggestions are great also
///but nothing targets the heart quite like running
////and swimming and biking
2012-12-10 08:14:29 PM  
1 vote:
"I don't jog. It makes the ice slosh out of my glass."
--Martin Mull
2012-12-10 08:11:37 PM  
1 vote:
I live in the city, but only jog in the wee hours of the morning. Sudden death should probably be more of an immediate concern than pollution.
2012-12-10 08:10:48 PM  
1 vote:

Ishkur: there is no better way to work out the heart than to go running.

Aside from sex.

And anything but running, which is the most miserable experience a human being can endure. You want me to do weighted jump lunges? Fine. Burpees? No problem. Burpees with pullups inbetween? Awesome. I wreck that shiat.

Running? Go fark yourself.

Ishkur: but running is best because it can be done anywhere.

It can't be done in my living room. I can get a fantastic workout, with plenty of cardio, in my living room. But I can't run in my living room.
2012-12-10 08:09:22 PM  
1 vote:

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It's just a fad.

1] put on jacket
2] unzip jacket
3] ???

I imagine by the time they get anywhere, they're naked.
2012-12-10 08:05:26 PM  
1 vote:
fta: Study participants were split into two groups: Fifteen in an urban location, and nine in a rural environment.

A sample set of 24? ....study is complete horseshiat and based on insufficient data with way too many variables involved to make this sort of claim.

Call me back when you at least have a couple thousand.
2012-12-10 08:02:55 PM  
1 vote:
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It's just a fad.
2012-12-10 08:00:59 PM  
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2012-12-10 07:59:48 PM  
1 vote:
There's so many problems with this article it isn't even funny. This article is what will make you dumber.
2012-12-10 07:57:21 PM  
1 vote:
Joggers find all the bodies.
2012-12-10 07:57:19 PM  
1 vote:
I don't get running on the street. Trail running is fun, largely because it lets you put in a lot more distance than you could do hiking, but running in a city just sounds like hell.
2012-12-10 07:56:27 PM  
1 vote:

Ambivalence: I don't get jogging. Biking i get. Swimming i get. If I'm running it's because something is chasing me. The idea of running for pleasure is just whack.

I run because I'm not a runner; it's something I suck at and I hate sucking at things. Plus it makes you healthier and is free.
2012-12-10 07:52:52 PM  
1 vote:
This explains the idiocy of all urban bicyclists!

/farking hates all bicyclists that aren't in the woods
2012-12-10 07:00:11 PM  
1 vote:
I never feel better than after a good run - it really helps you feel alive. There's nothing like running on a crisp morning, the light breeze in your face, your numb left arm, the smell of burnt toast in the air, the distant sound of the ambulance as everything goes dark.

It's magical.
2012-12-10 05:19:22 PM  
1 vote:
So the runner's high is really just carbon monoxide?
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