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(Yahoo)   Dozens of vials of various nuclear isotopes have been showing up in the Georgian black market recently, but don't worry, they have no idea where it is all coming from   ( news.yahoo.com) divider line
    More: Scary, Georgians, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, National Defense University, undercover, deputy assistant, legal burden of proof, International Atomic Energy Agency  
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2012-12-10 02:17:09 PM  
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I just don't ever see a scenario where a non-state group could create their own full fledged
nuclear weapon.. A dirty bomb, sure..But that is it. There is no trick to that. A full blown real
nuclear weapon created using just raw materials would take WAY more infrastructure, expertise,
and money than any group could do. It would take billions in machinery and support equipment
alone to refine a raw material into something weapons grade. Then it would take billions more again
in equipment, expertise and support to construct a device. Even at that, an untested design might
not even create a yield and then you just end up with a dirty bomb..
2012-12-10 01:32:41 PM  
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about a year or so ago I came across a vial a certain isotope I had and decided to dispose of it the proper way so rather than just tossing it in the field behind my house or flushing it (Im not stupid) I used to run a chemistry lab and had the vial from that time. Called the NRC to get the best agency locally to come test and pick it up. It took at least a month or two of back and forth with the guy from the DEP to finally come out and pick it up . It was quite a sight. My mother who was visiting from Florida got enough of a kick out of it to take pictures of the DEP hazardous waste containment truck that came in and setup in my driveway and took readings of the area and material and garage. Proper storage kept any secondary irradiation from being an issue but items used to handle it needed to be disposed of as well.
While a pretty unique experience, My thought was why it took so long for them to finally come and pick it up. I told them what it was and in the wrong hands could have been used to cause problems and in a form that is easily dispersed. I would have thought they would have been out the very next day, or at least within a couple of days. They must have been swamped with Radioactive material recovery calls those months.
Funniest part was when my Weimaraner knocked over one of his meters and broke it. luckily he was cool cause he said that one needed to go in for calibration anyway so he brought out a spare meter.
2012-12-10 12:29:12 PM  
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FTFA: "At first we thought that this was coincidence," said Archil Pavlenishvili, chief investigator of Georgia's anti-smuggling team. "But since all of these cases were connected with Abkhazia, it suggests that the stuff was stolen recently from one particular place. But we have no idea where. "

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2012-12-10 11:51:03 AM  
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pag1107: Can you imagine what a sheer pain the ass a chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear attack in the US would be? All the prep in the world wouldn't do diddly because people are so dumb and panicky.

Honestly, it'd probably look just like Katrina, only replace flood waters with radiation symbols. Everyone will flee, panic, notice there's a bunch of stuff, see if the looters are immediately dying, and rush back in if they aren't. The National Guard and Army would have to sweep it, and report safety numbers, and the second people are told it's at least quasi safe they'll be right back at the very limits. Only they'll be biatching the government needs to truck in perfect topsoil for their lawns and gardens, and in twenty years, they'll blame the attack for every health problem they've ever had, and demand the government pays for all their healthcare while chain smoking menthols.
2012-12-10 11:03:59 AM  
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2012-12-10 10:22:22 AM  
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I just hope that when the inevitable bomb goes off in the US, the wind won't be pushing that fallout shiat north.
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