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(Detroit Free Press)   11AM: Michigan Republicans introduce right-to-work legislation. 9PM: After locking Capitol doors, bill forced through lame-duck sessions of both state houses. Bonus: "right to work" classified as appropriations, so voters can't overturn it   ( freep.com) divider line
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2012-12-07 04:09:29 PM  
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joness0154: ryarger: dwrash: As a consumer of laber (which a company is), I should have the RIGHT to shop around for the best possible workers (union or not).

You have that right today in all 50 states.

This law *removes* your right to choose to make your business a closed, Union-only shop. If a Union approaches you with a deal that was *the* best for your business and that deal involved an exclusive agreement, it is now *illegal* for you to make that deal. That was was legal before this law, it is illegal now (assuming Snyder signs it).

Not a single freedom or right is being created/strengthened by this law, and freedom and rights are being restricted. Where is the libertarian brigade to condemn this?

LOL. Show me a company that would love to be a closed shop.

Because corporations are people, my friend, amirite?
2012-12-07 04:03:24 PM  
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dwrash: I also tend to think people get the treatment they deserve.

The domestic violence victims had it comin thread is elsewhere on the page.
2012-12-07 02:58:58 PM  
1 vote:
If only there were some massive pool of people willing to work in horrid conditions for below poverty-level wages, who neither had nor asked for any basic human rights on or off the worksite, and who could be made to disappear with a simple phone call if they made trouble.....

Republicans would be ecstatic about bringing in THOSE people, right?

2012-12-07 02:04:10 PM  
1 vote:
" Right to work" laws eventually turn every worker into a Temp worker.
2012-12-07 01:38:00 PM  
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joness0154: Philip Francis Queeg: HotWingConspiracy: joness0154: Philip Francis Queeg: joness0154: Oh you raised your voice at me? Grievance

My God, they demand to be treated with respect? You need to put those people in their place.

Respect is earned.

Your employees know that too. Notice how they don't respect you?

He really is doing a great job of illustrating the sorts of management failures that unions exist to protect the employee from.

This person wasn't working for me.

It's not a management failure, some people are just poor workers and use the union as a shield. This person was one of them. His manager was willing to cut him some slack at times, but he stepped over the line on many occasions. That employee is no longer with the company, but it only took 3 or 4 months to get rid of him.

And how was the manager who was incapable of enforcing work rules without shouting at employees disciplined? How was the manager who failed to correctly estimate the work requirements of his project and expected the employees to work additional (uncompensated?) time disciplined? I'm sure management would never shield poor performers like that. In management justice is swift, brutal and uncompromising, right?
2012-12-07 12:51:48 PM  
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lohphat: I think unions would be much more attractive if

lohphat: Unions should

lohphat: I've never been a union member but

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2012-12-07 12:46:26 PM  
1 vote:
Undermining the ability of private orgs like unions to address income inequality forces Americans to allow the govt to do it. Surprise!

- David Waldman (@KagroX) November 30, 2012
2012-12-07 11:58:00 AM  
1 vote:

pacified: yes, it was those evil unions that created derivatives trading and mortgage backed securities, and gave out trillions in loans without verifying anything. Damn unions! And poor people!

And paid out multiple millions in salary and bonuses to the executives of Hostess while blaming the failure of the company on the bakers union that they were demanding take a paycut. Oh those greedy laborers!
2012-12-07 11:50:04 AM  
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minoridiot: I always thought that competition nurtures a healthier economic environment.

indeed, with 7 billion people on the planet it is so healthy you can pay someone a dollar a day for hard labor, race to the bottom FTL!
2012-12-07 09:56:17 AM  
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Dancin_In_Anson: minoridiot: What the Right to Work laws do is give the employee freedom of choice whether to join a union or not.

Freedom of choice? What country do you think this is?

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2012-12-07 09:36:53 AM  
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minoridiot: What the Right to Work laws do is give the employee freedom of choice whether to join a union or not.

Freedom of choice? What country do you think this is?
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