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2012-12-05 02:38:14 PM  
GOOD CHRIST IS THIS THREAD STILL MEANDERING ON?

DON'T YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK OR SOMETHING?

 
2012-12-05 02:39:02 PM  

that bosnian sniper: lordjupiter: Irony. U has it.

Sorry, I must have missed your point when I was looking out my window at the tax-exempt megachurch that's hosted anti-Obama sermons from the pulpit, which counsels its parishioners in the tax-deductability of church contributions, that enjoys regular visits on the campaign trail and otherwise from Republican political candidates and endorses them in return, busses parishioners to debates and town hall meetings, has a whole PR/advertising/marketing staff, and preaches prosperity theology from the pulpit...all while contributing heavily in money and time to conservative organizations and groups while doing very precious little in way of real charity. I was also thinking about how it's one of three in my town alone, and how there's a couple dozen of them in the major metropolitan area and sprawl.

You were saying something about greed and capitalism, and prosperity theology, co-opting Christianity?


Something about it, yes. That's about as far as you got, apparently.

Again, this very thread is proof of you're wrong. The assimilation is not complete, yet. Otherwise, this thread wouldn't exist.

Deck the halls with lots of derping
derpy derpy derp, da derp derp derp
 
2012-12-05 02:39:04 PM  

Surool: Nabb1: I don't think schools should promote religion, either, but I certainly wouldn't have a problem with anyone taking my kids to see a church or synagogue or mosque if the purpose was non-religious. You haven't answered that question. Intellectual curiosity doesn't necessarily mean religious indoctrination, after all.

What does that have to do with the story in the link?


I was asking you to elaborate on your statement about not letting a school take your child to a church "for any reason," not any particular aspect of the article. Would you let a school take your child to the Old North Church in Boston for a history lesson?
 
2012-12-05 02:39:06 PM  

Via Infinito: sethen320: skullkrusher: justtray: HindiDiscoMonster: skullkrusher: kronicfeld: Coco LaFemme: I think you're missing the point. He/She specifically told me that I would not be okay with this play being put on in a mosque or some other religious structure, and I asked them to point out where I said in this thread that the only reason I didn't think this was a big deal was because it as a Christian church. I'm not asking them to prove how life began, I'm asking them to tell me where I said something they clearly think I said.

Throwing a hissy fit is a sure way to win an argument on an internet message board.

she's already won - now she's just fighting off the desperate attempts to save face made by those she just laid the smackdown on

Which brings this to mind...

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I'm surprised there's people that still don't have skullkrusher on ignore.

considering your performance in every thread, I am not surprised that you're surprised by unsurprising things. You are that simple.

I have skullkrusher in green.

I've got him in cyan. Love me some skullkrusher.


I aim to please
 
2012-12-05 02:40:21 PM  

chuckufarlie: Surool: skullkrusher: but showing the Charlie Brown special in a classroom would be ok?

No.

maybe they should sent the atheist kids to the cafeteria while the rest of the kids watch the program.


What about the Hindu, Buddhist and Muslim kids?

That type of thing where kids of other religions (or lack thereof) get singled out while christian kids get to watch a cartoon is exactly why we keep religions of of public schools.

I know you'd like to send your kids to a christian school, and they exist. So send them there.
 
2012-12-05 02:40:24 PM  
Well then, I'm not inviting anyone over to see the Great Pumpkin on Halloween...on Pagan protest grounds.
 
2012-12-05 02:40:33 PM  

skullkrusher: Surool: skullkrusher: but showing the Charlie Brown special in a classroom would be ok?

No.

thank you for clarifying. Your posts were unclear on that.

It's the content of the production that's the issue. Going to a church for a play isn't a problem. My parish growing up had a theatre group that did all sorts of productions, not all religiously themed. There have been people in here who would be furious if their kids were taken on a field trip to see Death of a Salesman if the production happened in a church.


Bob Jones University in Greenville, SC used to put on some great Shakespeare productions, from what I used to hear. Bob Jones was a religious nut, but he loved Shakespeare and did a pretty good Lear, apparently.
 
2012-12-05 02:40:47 PM  

mcwehrle: GOOD CHRIST IS THIS THREAD STILL MEANDERING ON?

DON'T YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK OR SOMETHING?


I did but my building was shut down by the NYC Freethinkers cuz the street sign out front made a shadow that looked vaguely like a cross on the sidewalk between 12:15 and 12:17PM each day
 
2012-12-05 02:40:47 PM  

Nabb1: Surool: Nabb1: I don't think schools should promote religion, either, but I certainly wouldn't have a problem with anyone taking my kids to see a church or synagogue or mosque if the purpose was non-religious. You haven't answered that question. Intellectual curiosity doesn't necessarily mean religious indoctrination, after all.

What does that have to do with the story in the link?

I was asking you to elaborate on your statement about not letting a school take your child to a church "for any reason," not any particular aspect of the article. Would you let a school take your child to the Old North Church in Boston for a history lesson?


If you say yes, then schools can teach the Bible and checkmate, athiests.
 
2012-12-05 02:40:55 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Cythraul: Most atheists I know love Charlie Brown Christmas.

Sure. I'm not a fan of preachy at the best of times, and I think CBC was heavy handed, even for a christian piece. But one of the few truly great things that religion has inspired over the millenia is art. CBC is art. Having it voiced by age-realistic children (as technically flawed as it turned out to be) was utter genius. The kids are at least half of the piece's soul.

Religion is inspiring*. Unfortunately, art isn't the only thing it inspires, but, you know... Different thread.

/ *Although not so much anymore it seems. Religion-inspired art seems to be utter garbage lately.
// CBC may be the last of the greats.


I think you might be confusing correlation with causation. Simply because art was historically generated in a religiously permeated culture does not make religion the generator of art. You gave evidence against that by saying that current religion-inspired art is utter garbage, yet we still have an outpouring of art currently. That would be pretty strong evidence against religion being in any way inspiring of art. The only thing it proves is that religion at the time was pervasive and you were effectively required to include religion in your art if you wanted to do art and not be ostracized, or worse.
 
2012-12-05 02:41:58 PM  

Farking Canuck: If you are not one of the idiots that maintains that somehow christianity motivated the murders committed by abortion clinic protesters then I apologize.


apology accepted

however we're still waiting to see who actually supports child murder in the first place, and whether or not they would defend innocent life in those cases...

any takers? for teh lulz....?
 
2012-12-05 02:41:59 PM  

Nabb1: skullkrusher: Surool: skullkrusher: but showing the Charlie Brown special in a classroom would be ok?

No.

thank you for clarifying. Your posts were unclear on that.

It's the content of the production that's the issue. Going to a church for a play isn't a problem. My parish growing up had a theatre group that did all sorts of productions, not all religiously themed. There have been people in here who would be furious if their kids were taken on a field trip to see Death of a Salesman if the production happened in a church.

Bob Jones University in Greenville, SC used to put on some great Shakespeare productions, from what I used to hear. Bob Jones was a religious nut, but he loved Shakespeare and did a pretty good Lear, apparently.


BJU is the greatest example of false advertising ever
 
2012-12-05 02:42:51 PM  

mcwehrle: GOOD CHRIST IS THIS THREAD STILL MEANDERING ON?

DON'T YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK OR SOMETHING?


Shhhhh.. They're doing the work of Jesus and Non-Jesus. They'll take up the collection in a bit and the service will be over.
 
2012-12-05 02:43:24 PM  

chuckufarlie: Surool: skullkrusher: but showing the Charlie Brown special in a classroom would be ok?

No.

maybe they should sent the atheist kids to the cafeteria while the rest of the kids watch the program.


Here's a better solution.

Send your kids to catholic school, and leave out all religion out of public school, voluntary or otherwise.
 
2012-12-05 02:44:11 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: JackieRabbit: I should be in the kitchen: Please knock it off, fellow atheists, it's hard enough being openly atheist in this country without giving religious types more fodder to attack us with.

I agree with your request, but why do you feel you need to be "openly atheist?" I'm agnostic and if someone tries to engage me with something along the lines of "where do you go to church?," I simply say, "I'm sorry, but I don't discuss religion." This works for the mainstreamers. Some born-againers will start to "witness" and I just tell them I am not interested. I don't care if this offends them. Really, it's not worth the wasted effort to do otherwise. Religious belief or the lack thereof should be a very personal matter that is not discussed with strangers.

I don't make a point of telling people I'm an atheist, but I won't lie if asked either. I used to, or change the subject but I dunno... It began to feel like I was hiding that part of who I am for fear of offending people. And I realized I'm not ashamed of who I am, so why hide it? If someone gets offended and tries to "witness" at me, that says a lot about their insecurity.


Fair enough. Sound like you have it covered pretty good.
 
2012-12-05 02:44:26 PM  

doyner: Carving out a few hours from a public school day to take kids to a church to watch a story about how Linus and Charlie Brown are touched by the birth of Christ is clearly over the line.


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/there are rules
 
2012-12-05 02:45:09 PM  

had98c: Lionel Mandrake: I drunk what: Farking Canuck: There is no way for the lack of belief in something to motivate actions.

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what a lack of belief looks like

learn some words, then come back and go full retard on us

until then, i'd love to hear bronymedic's opinion about murdering innocent children...

are you for it or against it?

I'm sorry, did you just complain about people going full retard then ask someone how they felt about murdering innocent children?

Oh, god...the derp...THE DERP!!

Didn't you know? Us atheists are big fans of murdering innocent children. Well if you didn't already know that, now you know.


As a life-long atheist, I have always opposed the murdering of innocent children.

I mean, why would you do that? That's just throwing away the opportunity to enjoy years of defilement, humiliation, torture, and mutilation. The sound of tortured children screaming is music to an atheist's ears! Try it, you'll love it!
 
2012-12-05 02:45:12 PM  

JackieRabbit: mcwehrle: GOOD CHRIST IS THIS THREAD STILL MEANDERING ON?

DON'T YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK OR SOMETHING?

Shhhhh.. They're doing the work of Jesus and Non-Jesus. They'll take up the collection in a bit and the service will be over.


What about supply side Jesus?

I just want to make sure we cover all the Jesuses.
 
2012-12-05 02:45:16 PM  
Can we finaly let go of the nostalgia about anything Charlie Brown? If you're between the ages of 10-65 and love it, I'm sorry, you're extremely lame. Okay, the song is catchy, but that's it.
 
2012-12-05 02:46:00 PM  

DaCaptain19: The atheist f*cks are more annoying than the pastor of Westboro Baptist!

what a bunch of sand-in-the-vagina pussy f*cks.

I'm not Catholic but I don't shiat my pants every time I see the Pope on the news.

Atheists SHOULD have the most civic-minded, volunteering, charity-based values. After all, no higher power - all we got is each other.

Instead, they poop their panties over a cartoon that is over 47 years old. Instead, they're bigger dicks to their own (you know...people?), on a daily basis, than ANY other faith-based belief system (because oh yeah, atheism is faith-based).

Jeebus, are you atheist f*ckers too lazy to use the remote? Because there are a LOT of TV programs that are on at any one point in time. Or try something more mentally stimulating like...reading, or have a hobby other than biatching about the irrelevant and watching TV shows you hate... 

Just a little suggestion for those whose stick up their arse has a stick up its arse.


I live with my mom
 
2012-12-05 02:47:07 PM  
Can't we just have something for once that people don't get all butt-hurt over? If it was good enough for us when we were kids, you would think it's still good enough for us as adults. Bugs Bunny cartoons, drinking from the hose in the yard, monkey bars, no warning labels on music, yada yada yada...
 
2012-12-05 02:47:40 PM  

Epicedion: ...They're run by state employees and receive their operational funding directly from the government.


Which, in turn, puts them on the hook for obeying federal law. As long as the taxpayer is footing the bill in total or in part, the First Amendment must be heeded.
 
2012-12-05 02:48:04 PM  
No discussion of Charlie Brown is complete without A PEANUTS HALLOWEEN II: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
 
2012-12-05 02:48:13 PM  

gregp1369: Can't we just have something for once that people don't get all butt-hurt over? If it was good enough for us when we were kids, you would think it's still good enough for us as adults. Bugs Bunny cartoons, drinking from the hose in the yard, monkey bars, no warning labels on music, yada yada yada...


Lead paint, CFCs, Thalidomide...
 
2012-12-05 02:48:39 PM  

Surool: chuckufarlie: Surool: skullkrusher: but showing the Charlie Brown special in a classroom would be ok?

No.

maybe they should sent the atheist kids to the cafeteria while the rest of the kids watch the program.

What about the Hindu, Buddhist and Muslim kids?

That type of thing where kids of other religions (or lack thereof) get singled out while christian kids get to watch a cartoon is exactly why we keep religions of of public schools.

I know you'd like to send your kids to a christian school, and they exist. So send them there.


I did. And they both ended up with scholastic scholarships for college.

Maybe you should ask all of those kids of various religions if they want to watch the cartoon. I am pretty sure that nobody here speaks for them.

It is a CARTOON ans that is what kids see. They do not see that one brief moment of religion that is tossed in.


Maybe we should insist that stores stop having Christmas sales, Christmas displays and the sappy music.

Or you could mind your own farking business and let people live the way that they want. You and your ilk are always screaming about separation of church and state. Schools are not government institutions. They are not under that rule.
 
2012-12-05 02:48:46 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I'm sorry, did you just complain about people going full retard then ask someone how they felt about murdering innocent children?


well unlike Farking Canuck who just talks in endless circles telling people what they believe

i prefer to ask for clarification about a particular person's point of view before i criticize it, otherwise i'd be no better than the idiots that rage against me

/that would be useless
 
2012-12-05 02:49:15 PM  

Pitabred: MooseUpNorth: Cythraul: Most atheists I know love Charlie Brown Christmas.

Sure. I'm not a fan of preachy at the best of times, and I think CBC was heavy handed, even for a christian piece. But one of the few truly great things that religion has inspired over the millenia is art. CBC is art. Having it voiced by age-realistic children (as technically flawed as it turned out to be) was utter genius. The kids are at least half of the piece's soul.

Religion is inspiring*. Unfortunately, art isn't the only thing it inspires, but, you know... Different thread.

/ *Although not so much anymore it seems. Religion-inspired art seems to be utter garbage lately.
// CBC may be the last of the greats.

I think you might be confusing correlation with causation. Simply because art was historically generated in a religiously permeated culture does not make religion the generator of art. You gave evidence against that by saying that current religion-inspired art is utter garbage, yet we still have an outpouring of art currently. That would be pretty strong evidence against religion being in any way inspiring of art. The only thing it proves is that religion at the time was pervasive and you were effectively required to include religion in your art if you wanted to do art and not be ostracized, or worse.


Actually, art had religious content because it was being sponsored by the church. If you where an artist at that time and actually wanted to get paid, the church was your only option unless you worked for a royal family.
 
2012-12-05 02:49:34 PM  

chuckufarlie: Schools are not government institutions. They are not under that rule.


Yes, they are.
 
2012-12-05 02:49:38 PM  

srtpointman: Jesus fark! The god damned Atheists are getting as bad as the Christians!


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I know how much people love to be morally indignant, but let's have a little perspective here.
 
2012-12-05 02:49:44 PM  

browntimmy: Can we finaly let go of the nostalgia about anything Charlie Brown? If you're between the ages of 10-65 and love it, I'm sorry, you're extremely lame. Okay, the song is catchy, but that's it.


Ten year old kids who like cartoons are lame? What is your mental age?
 
2012-12-05 02:49:57 PM  
I read TFA, though not all 600+ posts in this thread. One thing really stood out:

Do the schools have so little to teach, and the kids have so much time on their hands, that this school has to resort to filling up time by busing students to somewhere, anywhere, for the purposes of entertainment? And more specifically, a play duplicating something that every last one of them will watch on TV anyway? And probably already have the DVD of?

Seriously, with all the talk about schools needing to keep kids there year-round for more instruction, ending classes in non-core subjects so more time can be spent on the same, and whatnot, why are they taking the kids out of school to go to a play? Especially that play? Or, for that matter, if there was one based on Frosty the Snowman, or Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer, or How the Grinch Stole Christmas, or It's a Wonderful LIfe ... you're going to see those in December. They're practically inescapable, kind of like that recording of dogs barking Jingle Bells. Why pull the kids out of school, and waste at least half a day's instructional time, for that?

If the church really wanted kids to see their play, instead of just taking a fall to whip up fake outrage, they could have put it on any time. Saturday afternoon would be nice. They could have done a kids-only performance. They could have done a whole lot of things. Instead, they managed to hit on every way of doing it wrong -- taking time away from school, duplicating something that's ubiquitous, and of course holding it in a church -- and then cried to the media when some anonymous person supposedly objected. Not the school, I should point out. Not anybody identifiable.

And btw, Subby, there's no sign of atheist outrage over people watching "Merry Christmas Charlie Brown." None. Period. Not in the article, not anywhere. Watch anything you like; nobody's stopping you. Preferably watch it when you would otherwise be submitting trollish headlines to Fark.
 
2012-12-05 02:50:07 PM  

skullkrusher: Surool: skullkrusher: but showing the Charlie Brown special in a classroom would be ok?

No.

thank you for clarifying. Your posts were unclear on that.

It's the content of the production that's the issue. Going to a church for a play isn't a problem. My parish growing up had a theatre group that did all sorts of productions, not all religiously themed. There have been people in here who would be furious if their kids were taken on a field trip to see Death of a Salesman if the production happened in a church.


Thank you for not suggesting a bunch of off-topic scenarios to try to play the "gotcha" game.

Public Schools should not be promoting Islam, Judaism, Christianity or anything else. There are religious schools out there for that... Send your kids there.
 
2012-12-05 02:50:21 PM  

Epicedion: chuckufarlie: Schools are not government institutions. They are not under that rule.

Yes, they are.


nope. They are not governed by any government agencies. Get over it.
 
2012-12-05 02:50:47 PM  
I didn't read the whole thread, it's pretty long.

Add mine to the voices which say why does a public school have to go to a church to see a live performance of CBC? If you want your kids to see it, take them yourself on the weekend or after school. Or you can all watch it together on TV as a family.

Going as a school trip is just wrong. It seems so obvious to me; I don't get why not everybody feels that way. It's not an issue whether you (or I) are personally offended or not. It's the exact same issue as a nativity scene on the courthouse grounds. Nobody is attacking Christmas or Christians by saying that you can put it on your church grounds or even your front yard just as easily.

Why this mania to put your religion in everyone's face? And why demonize people who feel that way?

Public school kids have no business going to such an overtly religous function while on the public school clock.
 
2012-12-05 02:50:51 PM  

justtray: chuckufarlie: Surool: skullkrusher: but showing the Charlie Brown special in a classroom would be ok?

No.

maybe they should sent the atheist kids to the cafeteria while the rest of the kids watch the program.

Here's a better solution.

Send your kids to catholic school, and leave out all religion out of public school, voluntary or otherwise.



Kids SHOULD learn about religion in public schools. They SHOULD experience cultural practices and beliefs to expand their understanding of the world and their neighbors. This SHOULD NOT be voluntary. This should be part of the curriculum. However, they SHOULD NOT be taught religion as a matter of faith.

Once again you're wrong. Incessantly, vociferously and arrogantly wrong.
 
2012-12-05 02:51:46 PM  

Worldwalker: I read TFA, though not all 600+ posts in this thread. One thing really stood out:

Do the schools have so little to teach, and the kids have so much time on their hands, that this school has to resort to filling up time by busing students to somewhere, anywhere, for the purposes of entertainment? And more specifically, a play duplicating something that every last one of them will watch on TV anyway? And probably already have the DVD of?

Seriously, with all the talk about schools needing to keep kids there year-round for more instruction, ending classes in non-core subjects so more time can be spent on the same, and whatnot, why are they taking the kids out of school to go to a play? Especially that play? Or, for that matter, if there was one based on Frosty the Snowman, or Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer, or How the Grinch Stole Christmas, or It's a Wonderful LIfe ... you're going to see those in December. They're practically inescapable, kind of like that recording of dogs barking Jingle Bells. Why pull the kids out of school, and waste at least half a day's instructional time, for that?

If the church really wanted kids to see their play, instead of just taking a fall to whip up fake outrage, they could have put it on any time. Saturday afternoon would be nice. They could have done a kids-only performance. They could have done a whole lot of things. Instead, they managed to hit on every way of doing it wrong -- taking time away from school, duplicating something that's ubiquitous, and of course holding it in a church -- and then cried to the media when some anonymous person supposedly objected. Not the school, I should point out. Not anybody identifiable.

And btw, Subby, there's no sign of atheist outrage over people watching "Merry Christmas Charlie Brown." None. Period. Not in the article, not anywhere. Watch anything you like; nobody's stopping you. Preferably watch it when you would otherwise be submitting trollish headlines to Fark.


At this time of year, schools like to provide things for entertainment. Get over it.
 
2012-12-05 02:52:52 PM  

chuckufarlie: nope. They are not governed by any government agencies. Get over it.


Here's the one for New York.
 
2012-12-05 02:52:55 PM  
ONE parent had a problem with it and the tattled to that group who probably don't have any kids in that school. 99.99% of the parents didn't have a problem with it. The parent didn't want to be identified because "they are concerned about their kids being singled out and bullied." Yeah, "because your/mom dad is such a douche, we don't get to see Charlie Brown."

From a KATV report:

"They have to choose to either go against their own personal beliefs and go with the in-crowd," said Thomas, "or step aside and take a stand for their own beliefs, which they'll be ostracized and singled out."

Yeah they will be, not because of their personal beliefs but because they are trying to impose those personal beliefs on others. All they had to do was opt out. Problem solved. None of the other parents seemed to have a problem with and if they did, opted their kid out without making a huge fuss.

I believe in separation of church and state, but this kind of stuff is absurd.
 
2012-12-05 02:52:57 PM  

chuckufarlie: Maybe you should ask all of those kids of various religions if they want to watch the cartoon. I am pretty sure that nobody here speaks for them.


No, because we have laws about this, and the kids' opinions don't change the laws.
 
2012-12-05 02:52:57 PM  

Surool: Public Schools should not be promoting Islam, Judaism, Christianity or anything else. There are religious schools out there for that... Send your kids there.


agreed. Promotion of any faith (or faith in general) has no place in a public school.
 
2012-12-05 02:53:17 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: That's just throwing away the opportunity to enjoy years of defilement, humiliation, torture, and mutilation. The sound of tortured children screaming is music to an atheist's ears!


thanks for the feedback

so BronyMedic do you also share this viewpoint? or do you feel that abortion is somehow a humane way to prevent them from suffering?

i'm assuming you are pro-choice? correct me if i'm wrong
 
2012-12-05 02:53:24 PM  
At first I thought the Church canceled it because someone complained, and didn't read that it would be a school function.

Still, one of the high schools around here did Godspell one year. Other schools have chorus concerts that incorporate religious music.

Considering that I took AP Exams in the Church at my School, the mere fact they are going to a Church isn't a legitimate complaint.

The School gave the parents the option to not have their Child go. This is a non-issue.

/ I do agree though- the derp on fox news would be huge if they were going to a mosque and not a Church

// (Do people take AP Exams in Mosques? I've never heard of such a thing, but I think it would only make sense if it were the closest building that could accept people)
 
2012-12-05 02:53:33 PM  
Why is it that atheists around here are a bunch of pussies? A bunch of crying little girls. It is embarrassing.
 
2012-12-05 02:54:56 PM  

Surool: chuckufarlie: Maybe you should ask all of those kids of various religions if they want to watch the cartoon. I am pretty sure that nobody here speaks for them.

No, because we have laws about this, and the kids' opinions don't change the laws.


what laws? This does not fall under separation of church and state.
 
2012-12-05 02:56:07 PM  

chuckufarlie: what laws? This does not fall under separation of church and state.


Yes, it does.
 
2012-12-05 02:56:38 PM  

Epicedion: chuckufarlie: nope. They are not governed by any government agencies. Get over it.

Here's the one for New York.


that is a government body that oversees the education process. They are not actually running the schools. They do not decide things like sending kids to see a cartoon.
 
2012-12-05 02:56:57 PM  

skullkrusher: justtray: chuckufarlie: Surool: skullkrusher: but showing the Charlie Brown special in a classroom would be ok?

No.

maybe they should sent the atheist kids to the cafeteria while the rest of the kids watch the program.

Here's a better solution.

Send your kids to catholic school, and leave out all religion out of public school, voluntary or otherwise.


Kids SHOULD learn about religion in public schools. They SHOULD experience cultural practices and beliefs to expand their understanding of the world and their neighbors. This SHOULD NOT be voluntary. This should be part of the curriculum. However, they SHOULD NOT be taught religion as a matter of faith.

Once again you're wrong. Incessantly, vociferously and arrogantly wrong.


Knowing about the existence of religion ≠ promoting it. However, sending the non-Christians to the cafeteria while the Christians get a cartoon isn't the solution... it is against the law and should be.
 
2012-12-05 02:58:08 PM  
It's from FoxNews, you morons.
You've been trolled.
//I'm not outraged.
 
2012-12-05 02:58:13 PM  

t3knomanser: Coco LaFemme: We're never going to be a secular society, completely devoid of religious worship.

This exists to protect believers, too. Does this school have no Jews? Muslims? Hindus? Is it right for the school to discriminate against them? Sure, it's an atheist organization that's doing the complaining, but by what right does the school marginalize religious believers that aren't Christian?


probably the same they they marginalize vegetarians by not also providing them with 900 calories of veggies for lunch.
 
2012-12-05 02:58:48 PM  

had98c: Didn't you know? Us atheists are big fans of murdering innocent children. Well if you didn't already know that, now you know.


If it is done for food is it really murder??
 
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