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(BBC)   English judge reprimanded for saying burglary takes a "huge amount of courage"   ( bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2012-12-05 12:19:09 PM  
DNRTFA, but if this is in England, then no, it doesn't take much courage because you don't have the right to defend yourself over there, and the police don't carry guns and are required to call in a Firearms Unit or Armed Response Vehicle if anything more than a baton or CS spray is necessary. In short, you call 911 and then the police that show up have to call their own special 911. It's fairly pointless if you ask me.

While robbery/burglary certainly takes more stupidity than courage, it takes even less courage in the UK.

Now, burglary in MY house? That takes some balls right there. Cops on both sides with marked take-home cruisers in the driveway, and plenty of firepower in my own home.
2012-12-05 12:36:12 PM  
It's not courage - it is more like full disrespect or disdain for the property owner.
2012-12-05 12:37:14 PM  

tallen702: this is in England, then no, it doesn't take much courage because you don't have the right to defend yourself over there


The right does exist, just if you do do it then then police will investigate, and as part of the investigation may take you into custody, or if they don't believe you then arrest you. It's not as simple or stupid as "if you punch someone trying to kill you he can sue you".
2012-12-05 12:39:31 PM  

JuggleGeek: What courage? The idiot you are making into a hero breaks into a house when nobody is home. He does it in England, where the homeowner isn't allowed to own a gun, and wouldn't be allowed to do a damn thing even if he did catch the burglar. And when he does happen to get caught and arrested, the farking judge won't even lock him up.

That sounds like "Commit all the crimes you want, there is no risk". I can't see why any courage is needed.

notmtwain: Admit it. If there were no possible consequence, you would do it. Therefore, you are afraid of consequences and must be a coward.

I'm sure this will shock you, because you sound like a dishonest scumbag at heart, but some of us are honest.

Somehow, your willingness to insult total strangers makes me doubt your self-appraisal.

And even if you are "honest", we have to ask why?

Fear of burning in hell? Or real love for your fellow man?
2012-12-05 01:08:26 PM  

oldfarthenry: maxalt: In my house your "huge amount of courage" would be splattered all over the walls and I would sue your estate for the clean-up costs and anything else I could dream up.

Be honest - you were doing curls with a 15 lb. free-weight while typing that - weren't you?

I would do the same thing. Not because I am a tough guy, but because I was scared. I don't know why you are in my house. Maybe you want my TV, maybe you want my sweet sweet anal virginity. I am 5'7" and 170 lbs. I am not gonna take that chance. So yeah, I am gonna send a load of .40 cal Winchester Ranger rounds your way.

So you can be brave and break in to my house, I am gonna be a coward and shoot you in the face before I find out how much of a threat you are. but I'll be a live coward who still has his black cherry....and his TV.
2012-12-05 01:29:18 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Atheists believe that you're exactly the same after death as you were before you were born.

Why don't they believe in the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?
2012-12-05 02:13:04 PM  

notmtwain: What's wrong with saying that it takes courage?

Don't praise people who do retarded and destructive things.

Further, it's not courage; it's oblivion.

Know the difference!
2012-12-05 02:55:55 PM  

MythDragon: So you can be brave and break in to my house, I am gonna be a coward and shoot you in the face


"God created men, Sam Colt made them equal".
2012-12-05 04:27:59 PM  

had98c: courage - mental or moral strength to venture, persevere, and withstand danger, fear, or difficulty (according to m-w.com).

I'd say a burglar fits that definition (the mental strength, obviously not the moral, but it says OR).

The problem is that people seem to only want to assign courage to people doing good things. In the same manner that people assign cowardice to bad actions that aren't in fact cowardice. It just makes them feel smugly superior to assign that designation to actions they don't like.

More or less. Brave or cowardly actions don't occur in a vacuum. Normally, we say suicide is a "cowardly" act, unless it's done to save others, then suddenly it becomes brave, unless it's done by someone in support of an ideology we find repugnant, when it becomes cowardly again. So someone who kills himself because of too much debt is a coward, but a soldier who falls on a grenade is brave; but a jihadi who straps on a suicide vest and kills a room full of soldiers is a coward. Although someone who set himself on fire to protest his government's repressive tactics might be brave (if he was a Buddhist monk) or a coward (if it was that same jihadi) depending.

Bravery is not courage. Anyone can have courage, which is being scared but going ahead anyway. Any soldier, for instance, who isn't scared in combat is a psychopath. A burglar is probably scared but continues either through desperation or cravenness, or courage; but that's not bravery. Being brave is more; it's accepting fate and doing what's right. Retreating could be braver than going forward into certain death. Surrender could be braver than glorious defeat. So burglars are probably not brave, although they may have the courage of desperation.
2012-12-05 04:38:47 PM  
Courage is a word we often associate with positive attributes, hero firefighters and police, military personnel, superman. When we use the word courage to describe someone who is simply taking great risks for personal gain we feel the word is being misused. Perhaps reckless would have been more appropriate.
2012-12-05 06:20:57 PM  
Courage! What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage! What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the "ape" in apricot? What have they got that I ain't got?
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2012-12-05 08:39:29 PM  
Burglary doesn't take courage. Burglars are typically keen on avoiding confrontation. That's why they rob houses that are unoccupied or the occupants are sleeping.
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