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(RotoExperts)   For now on when an NFL coach blows a game we will say "He Schwartzed the game"   ( rotoexperts.com) divider line
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2012-11-27 11:10:14 AM  
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2012-11-27 10:16:53 AM  
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Orgasmatron138: I agree that something needs to be tweaked, but Schwartz only needed to know one rule: all scoring plays are reviewed. That's it.

And he did know that. Last year the exact same thing happened in the 49ers-Lions game and Schwartz screamed to Harbaugh on the other side of the field "Learn the f*cking rules!"

2012-11-27 04:59:23 PM  
1 vote:

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: roc6783: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: roc6783: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: ***snip***
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Joe Buck

Immediate disqualification on any "Best List" ever. Unless the list is for something like, "Which broadcaster would it feel best to hit with a piano?".
2012-11-27 04:11:06 PM  
1 vote:

IAmRight: thesloppy: Note that the previous 2 Lions possessions ended in a reception that was fumbled by Pettigrew and an interception that was overturned, and Stafford had (uncharacteristically) already twice taken sacks that knocked them out of field goal range.

Yes, I already know all that, as I pointed it out as factors that lessen the stupidity of it. Still dumb, though.

Well, you and lots of other folks are suggesting that these are outlandish things that could happen "less than 1% of the time", incredulously saying "How often do you A) lose yardage, B) turn the ball over, or C) get sacked when in similar FG position?" ignoring that in the context of this game the answers were A: 4 out of the last 6 plays, B: the last time the Lions were there, and C: often enough that it had already happened twice in this game.
2012-11-27 03:44:58 PM  
1 vote:

Doogled: ***snip***

/Done with watching the NFL for the season

You were watching the Lions, that's hardly NFL.
2012-11-27 02:44:25 PM  
1 vote:
While I think Schwartz is a hotheaded dumbass, let's remember that this is a league with Norv Turner and let's never forget that Jason Garrett iced his own kicker. So Schwartz doesn't get tagged with this.
2012-11-27 12:58:40 PM  
1 vote:

stewbert: IamKaiserSoze!!!: ***snip***

Who (besides Ford) would promote Millen's #2 man after that fiasco? Mayhew may be doing ok, but that is the straw that caused me to turn against the Lions and replace it with college ball.

I'm sick of hearing how nice a guy Ford is. Nice hasn't done jack.

I think the funniest part of Matt Millen's career is that someone is paying him, like real money dollars, to be an on-air analyst. The guy was universally thought of as one of the worst GMs in the NFL, but now a network thinks people want to hear what he has to say about the current game? WTF?
2012-11-27 11:55:40 AM  
1 vote:
I see that Detroit's Shwartz is as big as mine.
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2012-11-27 11:19:37 AM  
1 vote:

macadamnut: Is that like the time the Steelers "Steratore'd the game" away from my team?

Give it up already.

No one cares. Get over it.
2012-11-27 11:19:36 AM  
1 vote:
Schwartz is an idiot. And a weapons-grade douche-nozzel.
2012-11-27 10:15:58 AM  
1 vote:
How about he Munson'd the game instead.
2012-11-27 10:13:46 AM  
1 vote:

Mr Guy: IamKaiserSoze!!!: I can't disagree with one word in this article. I was thinking the same thoughts as I watched the game last Thursday. As a life long Lions fan, they deserve better. They are the most undisciplined team in sports led by the least disciplined coach.

Nonsense, and the rule interpretation is incoherent. The refs just aren't used to dealing with the new automatic review process, and applied the rule incoherently. All rules in the NFL are applied individually, and sequentially, in a way that most benefits the team not being penalized without breaking any other rules. It should have been applied in a way that made sense:

1) Coach throws challenge flag incorrectly. Coach can not challenge, penalty applied after result of play.
2) Automatic review process takes place, review calls the touchdown back.
3) Ball spotted at the down, 15 yard penalty applied or declined, based on where the ball was spotted, either first down or automatic first down.

The coach can't benefit from throwing his flag at the time he threw it, engendering a future penalty. Once the play continued, as a seperate isolated event, the referees automatic should have started a second review, as all scoring plays are now reviewed. The refs thought of the play as "one review chance", but it wasn't. It was two seperate events, a review event started by the coach, and a later review event initiated by the referees. The rule change to an automatic review made this equivalent to a chop foul on the defense followed later by a blocking foul down the field on the offensive. Two different events.

I agree that something needs to be tweaked, but Schwartz only needed to know one rule: all scoring plays are reviewed. That's it.

Had he kept his head, his team may have won. But no, Yelly McScreamey had to show that he's a big man, and it cost his team.
2012-11-27 10:10:38 AM  
1 vote:
"And do you know where he got the idea to throw the flag?"

"No; he got it from your son!"
2012-11-27 10:06:38 AM  
1 vote:
Why do we have to stop saying "Norved?"
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