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2012-11-20 12:02:42 PM  
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2012-11-20 06:29:13 PM  
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poot_rootbeer: Until Microsoft releases an update so that interactive and non-interactive elements are more easily distinguishable at a glance, that will always be a frustrating usability problem.

This. A thousand times this.

While I do think the Start Screen versus the Start Menu is not an improvement, that's more an issue of personal preference that I can deal with. What I CANNOT chalk up to personal preference is the fact that key elements of the OS interface are accessible only via gestures, with NO visual indicators as to where the mouse cursor needs to be placed for things to magically appear. The only way to find these things out is to be told. That is a CRITICAL flaw in trying to make a user-friendly interface, and not something that you can chalk up to "unfamiliarity".

Think about when they introduced the Start Menu: the entire purpose of it was to give people an obvious route to using their computer. Hell, it even said "START" on the damn button. For all its faults, you take anyone literate with an IQ above 60 and sit them down in front of a computer running Windows 95, they'll figure out what button to push to find all their programs. And while I would like to say that we as a society have advanced to the point where computer illiteracy is a rare problem, that is not the case. You still have a lot of people who do not understand computers, who feel unfamiliar with computers, and who frankly are not likely to change in those areas. Making key system maintenance functions not just subtle, but outright counter-intuitive to find, is NOT the way to make a user-friendly interface.

There's also the issue of mandatory gestures, like click and drag to open the login screen. Works great on a fondleslab (snert), completely counterintuitive on a mouse. If I wanted a tablet interface, I'D OWN A TABLET. This on top of the issues that new users are going to have with this kind of stuff.

Regardless of the technical improvements behind Windows 8, the user interface issues make it a big no-no as far as I'm concerned, at least for a desktop environment. Unhide the always-hidden indicators, make gestures an OPTION, and then I'd be a lot less stand-offish.
2012-11-20 05:56:34 PM  
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Failing to heed Jakob Nielsen because his website looks "dated" is like failing to heed Nate Silver because he looks "effeminate". It's the factual observations that have you upset, not some guy's personal opinions.

Many of the usability problems catalogued in this report are not simply attributable to the users' unfamiliarity with a new interface; they won't just disappear over time.

Until Microsoft releases an update so that interactive and non-interactive elements are more easily distinguishable at a glance, that will always be a frustrating usability problem.

Until app developers choose to reel in their live-tile ADD -- or Microsoft forces the issue to via design regulations -- the Start screen will always be a seizure-inducing morass of flashy, meaningless emptiness.
2012-11-20 03:19:25 PM  
1 vote:
One of the biggest features I love in Windows 8.

True multi-monitor support w/ the taskbar and even wallpaper.. I nearly shiat a brick.. I can finally retire Ultramon.
2012-11-20 01:10:52 PM  
1 vote:
Apparantly, sales of Start8 are pretty good.
2012-11-20 01:02:20 PM  
1 vote:
90% of negative Windows 8 reviews can be summed up as: "Whaaaaa, I hate change."

Think different.

Oh, wait.
2012-11-20 12:57:03 PM  
1 vote:
I'm going to do something on the internet that is rarely done.

My name is Bill and I was wrong about Windows 8 and based my constant flaming of Windows 8 on a the vocal minority without even trying it.

Now then.. I decided to buy the $40 upgrade and used it as a full install.. Umm.. Yeah.. It's actually not bad.. Not bad at all. I haven't even installed a Start Menu replacement because I honestly have no idea for it.. The Start Screen is pretty farking handy..
2012-11-20 12:54:09 PM  
1 vote:
No one has any real need to upgrade from Windows 7.
2012-11-20 12:49:10 PM  
1 vote:
oh look, another MS sucks thread.

/never had a problem with windo....
//sh*t, i just remembered Vista...
///ok, aside from Vista, honestly I've never had a problem with Windows
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