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(Salon)   We've heard from the Right: "Most liberal president ever, yadda yadda." Let's check in on the left: "Can liberals trust Obama?" Well, if he's pissing off both factions, he MUST be doing something right   ( salon.com) divider line
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2012-11-10 01:21:06 PM  
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2012-11-10 04:34:24 PM  
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theteacher: skullkrusher: theteacher: [www.politicalcompass.org image 480x400]

I wouldn't brag about it

I know YOU wouldn't. But I do. I'm also pro-gun.

It's something to be proud of. It means you're an intelligent person.

And, you know, in general I have met few/no actual leftists who are all that interested in gun control. It's one of those centrist liberal positions, a mealy-mouthed reformist attempt to reduce crime without actually doing anything to address the social or economic problems that lead to crime.
2012-11-10 03:05:12 PM  
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R5D4: Every Democrat that runs for national office anywhere, at any time is "the most librul evah!!!"

It's amazing how they've got nearly half the country using the word "liberal" as an insult. Amazing, or worrying. They've also got half the country believing that conservatism is about being a massive dickface to everyone, trampling the poor, killing gays, worshipping jesus and segregating black folk.

Stuff is slightly warped over there. Party Boy summarised it real nice.

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That really does need repeating.
2012-11-10 01:37:42 PM  
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Shadowknight: Even if he is a center-right figure by any measure or estimation in another sane country, he is a step in the right direction. And we based this off his policies and things he's actually done.

I think what worries me the most, or at least a lot, is how political positions are all confuzzled. Somehow smaller less intrusive government is supposedly the domain of the R's, yet they're busy trying to stick government noses into all sorts of things (mostly dealing with families and family planning I suppose). At the same time, under the guise of protecting rights, they want to get rid of the things that actually benefit society as a whole and that limit personal rights or freedoms in no way.

Then the D's are banning large soft drinks and making it so you can't smoke a cigarette anywhere another human has stepped foot in during the past week. It's not your job, or anyone elses, to protect people from themselves. Where's the party that says do whatever the fark you want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else? And no, your feelings being hurt don't count.

And both sides totally agree on things like the Patriot Act and the TSA. You'll never be perfectly safe, and attempts to become so are the biggest potential threats to freedom and liberty. Yes, we have to protect ourselves from the crazies and those who would seek to harm us, but there should be a line in the sand where we say we'll go this far and no further.

Sometimes bad shiat is going to happen. You can't stop it, it's the way of the world. What you can do is attempt to mitigate and prepare for that risk while keeping in mind that our freedom and liberty are just as important, if not more so, than our safety.

/Please don't focus on the cig thing, it's just an example I don't wish to expound upon and is used in lieu of remembering various social engineering laws and taxes passed by the left 
//Sorry for the long rant, but the sheer magnitude of the herpaderp from the right is allowing a lot of issues to be swept under the rug...issues that should be part of the political discourse but aren't because one side is too busy trying to explain reality to a bunch of children with their fingers in their ears going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
2012-11-10 01:10:45 PM  
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Eat More Possum: Obama a socialist? LOL
A Marxist? LOL
A communist? double LOL

He's not a progressive, not even much of a liberal. At best you can consider him a Blue Dog.

The right is so far right now that they'd consider Nixon a liberal

It's beyond that. I've heard people call Bush and Cheney "liberals."
2012-11-10 12:29:31 PM  
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Liberals don't trust Obama to be a liberal based on things he's actually done.

Conservatives think Obama is the most liberal President ever based on the things they think he's done in their make-believe world.
2012-11-10 11:32:58 AM  
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Obama a socialist? LOL
A Marxist? LOL
A communist? double LOL

He's not a progressive, not even much of a liberal. At best you can consider him a Blue Dog.

The right is so far right now that they'd consider Nixon a liberal
2012-11-10 09:36:37 AM  
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i've always said, if you want to know if obama is a socialist... ask a farking socialist.
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