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(MSNBC)   A former welfare mother tells her story, and it sounds nothing like the GOP's Cliff Notes on 'Welfare Queens 101'   ( today.msnbc.msn.com) divider line
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2012-11-05 09:30:00 AM  
5 votes:

I lived in a tenement apartment with lead-painted walls. It was the cheapest option besides subsidized housing, which had a waiting list of several years. Once heat and rent were paid, as well as payments on the Cadillac, interest on my catamaran and docking fees, stable costs for my dressage horse, and my two iPhone 5s that I time-traveled to 2012 to get and signed up for the most expensive talk and data plan, I had $10 per month left for everything that food stamps didn't cover - laundry soap, tampons, everything. And this was in Massachusetts, which had one of the highest welfare allotments. I don't know how people in other states survived.

Amirite Republicans?
2012-11-05 01:10:12 PM  
2 votes:

AbbeySomeone: For every story like hers there is at least 1 that gets knocked up and feels entitled to gov't assistance.

White people "get pregnant." Black people get "knocked up."
2012-11-05 12:39:36 PM  
2 votes:
I didn't read the story, but I'm assuming her church helped her back on her feet.
2012-11-05 12:22:51 PM  
2 votes:
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what welfare queens might look like
2012-11-05 11:26:39 AM  
2 votes:
Liberals worry that somewhere, someone is experiencing something bad they don't deserve. Conservatives worry that somewhere, someone is experiencing something good they don't deserve.
2012-11-05 09:18:35 AM  
2 votes:

I had no job. I had no savings. I had no health insurance. I had a 1-year-old son, and I was pregnant.

Republicans call this the perfect storm of bootstrappyness. When things look their bleakest, things will somehow work out if everyone just does nothing.
2012-11-05 05:36:43 PM  
1 vote:

ongbok: PsiChick: skullkrusher: PsiChick: That woman was pregnant with a 1-year-old baby

well that's the problem. She's an elephant. Elephants can't find good work these days

ongbok: PsiChick: No Such Agency: Once a friend posted on their Facebook wall about my book, and somebody said, "You and your children should have just died instead of take money from the government."

Just a troll, thankfully. You see, genuine welfare abolitionists are THINKING that, but they generally don't actually SAY it.

How welfare changed me
Those four years on welfare made me a better person. ... Today I budget very precisely, even with my six-figure income. All those years I would walk through a department store and know I couldn't afford to buy anything. I've never quite lost that. I have a mindset of, "I could buy that, but eh, it's not that important to me."

And here we see the difference between over-privileged middle-class idiots who run themselves into horrible consumer debt because they just "deserve" a certain material lifestyle, and someone who has stared privation in the face and survived.

Sadly she is one of the lucky ones: she got a few breaks like her parents agreeing to help her again (and just coming from a family that valued education and career). Without that luck, it's almost impossible for someone to pull themselves out of poverty, because simply surviving takes every moment, dollar and calorie of their life.

Her parents were f**king assholes. That woman was pregnant with a 1-year-old baby, her ex was threatening to take the baby, and what do they say? "WE didn't approve, so TWO CHILDREN CAN SUFFER! HA! TAKE THAT!".

I'd like to think they recanted because a little talking cricket gave them a good hard bite.

I bet that was a tough labor.  I hope she had a c section, because if she didn't her coochie was ruined for all others.

...And this, kids, is why we hit the 'preview' button. Also, why commas are important.

The kid could have come out and walked across the d ...

I think that kid starred in the home video of BO's Kenyan birth
2012-11-05 03:28:21 PM  
1 vote:

AbbeySomeone: goatleggedfellow: So this all started when her husband walked away from his obligations and left her neglected and destitute.

Nice microcosm of conservative culture in this country. The winners can never win enough and the losers can never lose enough.

This. men are never blamed for any of thses stories.

Correction: WHITE men are never blamed for these stories. Black men are blamed all of the time for ALL of societies problems. If we'd only marry our baby-mama's everyone would have a unicorn. For some reason the white guy who marries, divorces, and neglects the mother of his children is superior to the black guy who never married his kids mom.
2012-11-05 02:12:17 PM  
1 vote:
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Imma get you barefoot and pregnant but don't worry, I'll be barefoot too in sympathy

2012-11-05 02:03:20 PM  
1 vote:

AbbeySomeone: Tell you what middle class white guy - when your life falls apart and you have to lower yourself to walk into a welfare office you can get back to me on what it is like OK. While you are in that office take time to experience the people around you.

I do find it hilarious that you beg for fark-welfare in your profile:

Update - we're tired of working on a hundred year old goddamn house and I have occasional insomnia. Please sponsor me for TF again so I can vote against some of the crap that gets greenlit.
2012-11-05 01:24:41 PM  
1 vote:

udhq: I don't necessarily approve of the anti-welfare thing, but I get it. I lost my home and business to a fire a couple of years ago, and ended up living on the street for a while. I'm still pretty liberal, but that experience definitely pushed me to the right.

It was basically all about the realization that the philosophical underpinnings of conservatism were true: the world is a zero-sum jungle, and eventually, as a matter literally of survival, people have to decide whether they want to be predators or prey. In most of the industrialized world, we are lucky to have corporations take on that moral burden on our behalf, but it's still there. In this country, thanks to cheap consumer goods, we live fairly well because of the fact that a lot of people in China live like slaves.

And that realization has definitely changed a lot of my consumption choices, but I'm afraid I'm in the vast minority.

I read this about 13 times and either you make no sense at all or I have a brain tumor.
2012-11-05 01:15:54 PM  
1 vote:

iaazathot: 85%

Right so like he said, 50%
2012-11-05 01:10:21 PM  
1 vote:

sweetmelissa31: I didn't read the story, but I'm assuming her church helped her back on her feet.

On the 12th day, Relublican Jesus appeared and delivered her bootstraps.
2012-11-05 12:30:40 PM  
1 vote:

jst3p: I lived most of my 20's below the poverty line. I now have a six figure (barely) income. The guy in the cube next to me has a similar story.

I don't understand how having lived through it he toes the party (GoP) line when it comes to the mythical welfare queen. I look at my life as a success story, but I have some natural advantages (I am fairly intelligent, white and male. That's a pretty good start.) I also see that social mobility like mine is becoming less and less possible as the wealth gap increases and the middle class shrinks. This is a direct result of "supply side", "trickle down", or "tax cuts for job creator" policies but the guy in the next cube is the embodiment of "I got mine, fark you!". Having lived so broke I don't understand how he can be so cold to people who genuinly need help and want nothng more than to be off public assistance.

Cue the Craig T. Nelson quote.
2012-11-05 12:20:28 PM  
1 vote:

Zapruder: [www.panelsonpages.com image 500x305]
Just trying to get their dreams in order.

"Hi! I'm a recovering crack addict and this is my retarded sister, we'd like some welfare please!"
2012-11-05 12:12:24 PM  
1 vote:
Duh, she's white.

Real welfare recipients are black.

And everyone knows that Obama is just trying to get more free stuff to black people.

/I was actually told this by a conservative family member when every other talking point was exposed as fiction.
2012-11-05 12:08:07 PM  
1 vote:
God: I'll spare Sodom & Gomorrah for the sake of just 10 righteous people.
GOP: If even one person abuses the welfare system, we must abolish it!
2012-11-05 12:06:22 PM  
1 vote:
Duh, she's white.
2012-11-05 12:05:15 PM  
1 vote:
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Just trying to get their dreams in order.
2012-11-05 08:08:25 AM  
1 vote:
"Being a welfare mother entitled everyone to make judgements about me and my choices. Once when I was in the grocery store, the woman in line behind me saw my foodstamps and peered into my cart. "Mushrooms," she sniffed. "Fresh beans when canned are half the price. Artichoke hearts, for heaven's sake!"

The capability of mankind to be utter assholes to each other is truly amazing at times.

"Once heat and rent were paid, I had $10 per month left for everything that food stamps didn't cover - laundry soap, tampons, everything. And this was in Massachusetts, which had one of the highest welfare allotments. I don't know how people in other states survived."

Gosh, I hope she didn't have a fridge and microwave at the same time - she wouldn't be poor anymore, according to Fox.
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