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(Consumer Reports)   The latest Consumer Reports' Annual Auto Reliability Survey has good news -- Toyota has rebounded nicely -- and some bad news -- apparently, it really does stand for "Fix Or Repair Daily"   ( consumerreports.org) divider line
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2012-10-30 11:47:07 AM  
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How did this get greenlit?
2012-10-30 09:43:21 AM  
3 votes:
Once a Zoomie, always a Zoomie.
2012-10-30 10:01:03 AM  
2 votes:
Why would I pay for this information?
2012-10-30 09:42:46 AM  
2 votes:
I think I'll stick with Mazdas for a while longer.
2012-10-30 02:34:39 PM  
1 vote:

Amusement: Own Ford Ranger, engine from Germany. Ford failed to check head bolt torque specs before installing 4.0 engine in Ranger. No less than 7 trips to the Ford dealer with the answer of "Don't know why it leaks oil or pings". I fixed it after 6 hours playing with it.

3rd light leaks. Ford doesn't sell 3rd light or gasket for it. This year rear sliding window leaks.

Had 93 Nissan pickup, transformer made nosies, day one. At it's end everything leaked (head gasket, transformer, valve cover, etc). Wouldn't buy another Nissan.

Previous Toyota 4x4 pickup had zero issues @ 135K, when I sold it. I miss it. Will buy another pickup (Tacoma / Tundra).

You ever watch the Top Gear episode where they tried to kill a Toyota Hilux (Basically the Tacoma)? It's a classic.
2012-10-30 12:50:05 PM  
1 vote:
Article also says several Ford models are totally new designs and they cannot predict reliability.
2012-10-30 12:47:36 PM  
1 vote:

HKWolf: Still not loving the Sync system but i can get used to it

Would be better if it were programmed to interpret statements resulting from frustration over its failure to understand your initial command. E.G., if I say "call Bob" and it asks me to repeat myself three times, it would be nice for it to comprehend "I SAID CALL BOB YOU STUPID F*CKING C**T". Because yeah, it gets irritating. Still an infinitely better and safer option than dialing/handling the phone itself, which I flat out refuse to do.
2012-10-30 12:33:16 PM  
1 vote:

The more you eat the more you fart: It doesn't sound like much, but mine is an SX with the 2.4L engine with 173HP. It's quick enough to smoke a v-6 mustang in the 1/4 mile

No. Just...no. Not a current gen, at least.

From Google:
Kia Koup SX - approx. 16 sec 1/4 mile
Mustang V-6 - approx. 14 sec 1/4 mile

It's not even close enough for environment/driver differences to overcome.
2012-10-30 12:32:44 PM  
1 vote:
My Ford is one of the best cars ever made. Reliable as all heck, roomy, and packed with features--or, at least, it can be if you so choose. Plus, it was cheap. Of course, they don't sell the british ford moneo in the USA, so most of you don't have a chance.
2012-10-30 12:16:19 PM  
1 vote:

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: mysticcat: Most of Ford's reliability issues have to do with the audio system- Sync/my Ford Touch. It sucks.

It seems a bit disingenuous for CR to treat issues with the infotainment console the same as drive train problems for the purposes of reliability (especially when many competitors have no viable equivalent). I agree though, Touch kinda sucks, but I always found Sync to be pretty cool for the phone features alone. Once you get your cell connected to the thing, it's really hard to go back to life without it (if you're on the road a lot).

I bought a 2012 Honda Accord last month and LOVE it. It was involved in a minor accident last week (biatch hit it while it was parked). Anyway, while it was being repaired, I was given a Limited Edition Ford Taurus to drive...wow...what a horrible, steaming pile of shiat of a car. You could not pay me enough to drive that thing on a daily basis. Yeah, it was fast, handled relatively well, smooth ride and all, but the internal design was horrific. Small windows, huge blind spots, glossy/reflective dash that the sun reflected right into your eyes...
2012-10-30 12:07:33 PM  
1 vote:

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Tr0mBoNe: Why would I pay for this information?

From non-car experts, no less.

Toyotas have sucked for a decade. Reliable? For the most part. Good cars? No.

Guess that depends on what you want in a vehicle then. Reliable = good for me. Being reliable is the main reason I bought my tacoma. It may not have had every bell and whistle some of the other trucks I looked at but it farkin works. The people I know with other brands have all had pricey repairs over the years. The most expensive thing I've had to do is replace my tires.
2012-10-30 11:54:30 AM  
1 vote:

AirForceVet: Once a Zoomie, always a Zoomie.

this. I've owned a ton of cars, then I owned a Miata... loved that car... so much that when I decided to get a luxury car, the only one that could compare was a Mercedes. Had the Mercedes for 5 years and less than 50,000 miles on the odometer... piece of crap.

Back to a Mazda now (CX-9), and will probably never change again.

To the Toyota owners proud to be at the top of the list, yes, you have a good car, but look at the TCO for a similar Mazda and eat your heart out.
2012-10-30 11:39:02 AM  
1 vote:

Krymson Tyde: I thought it was Found On Road Dead.

No comment re: Pontiac.

I thought it was Farker Only Rolls Downhill.
2012-10-30 11:00:32 AM  
1 vote:

Elzar: I would rather give my money to the hardworking Japanese

Bad news for you: Your Toyota was probably built in Alabama or Kentucky
2012-10-30 10:07:36 AM  
1 vote:
Fark has assured me that they are now quality autos, and my sister's experience with her brand new Ford was an outlier.
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