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(CBS Los Angeles 2)   Woman exceeds speaking time allotment at city council meeting, is promptly arrested (w/video)   ( losangeles.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2012-10-29 05:38:24 AM  
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fiver5: taurusowner: Atomic Spunk: arresting the violater is a reasonable step to take,

Maybe. Depending on what level of crime their actions are consistent with and whether their state law allows arrest for that crime. For instance, in Michigan, there are 3 levels of crimes. Civil Infractions, Misdemeanors, and Felonies. An officer may only arrest for Misdemeanors and Felonies. I would think this is likely true in other states too. If what this lady did was only a Civil Infraction (as possibly indicated by her being ticketed) the arrest may not be lawful.

Yes, the narrow vision of the world you have formed by living in Michigan best explains the laws and procedures in the rest of the country. Especially California.

Douche much? Did you miss the parts in which taurusowner used qualifying words, words that expressed his/her uncertainty as to whether MI law is similar to that in CA? By your logic, we shouldn't share what our experiences are like in our respective locales because it's somehow imposing our narrow vision of the world on others.
2012-10-29 08:23:22 AM  
2 votes:
Alternate source:
LA Times

Karen Wright was blasting a proposed city contract for sludge waste removal at the council meeting Tuesday when the red lights blinked, signaling her time was up.

Over the next 30 seconds, Riverside Mayor Ron Loveridge tried to stop her four times before a city police officer approached her at the lectern and asked her to sit down.

"No, I'm not sitting down," Wright told the officer, an exchange captured on the city's video of council proceedings. "No, I am not stepping out."

It was unclear how she ended up on the floor, but the video shows the officer pulling her arm. Loveridge said police placed handcuffs on her, but quickly took them off after Wright yelled that she was disabled.

Riverside Police Lt. Guy Toussaint said she was arrested on a misdemeanor charge but released on a citation rather than hauled into jail.

I'm only guessing that when police put their hands on her to remove her from the room, she struggled and was taken down. 

And more for background:

Loveridge said that Wright started showing up at council meetings a few years ago and became an active civic participant with "eclectic" interests who spends a lot of time preparing for her remarks.

"She speaks on every single discussion item at every public meeting every time," Loveridge said. "She speaks more than any council member or any mayor."

In fact, Loveridge said, Wright returned to council chambers after her run-in with police and spoke on two more items -- bringing her total speaking appearances to six on Tuesday. On some days, he said, she will fill out as many as 20 speaker cards.
2012-10-29 04:23:41 AM  
2 votes:
I've attended city council meetings where people giving public testimony refused to stop talking after being told their time was up. They shut the microphone off and the security guard approached the person and asked them to leave. I've never seen someone refuse to leave, but if they did, arresting the violater is a reasonable step to take, assuming its legal to do so.
2012-10-29 04:17:09 AM  
2 votes:
Without more info, can't say if it is reasonable or not. I mean while it might seem silly, some people will carry the fark on and just not yield the floor. I remember way back in high school we had to go to a city council meeting for my government class, I guess so we could learn government sucks because man was it boring. There was one old dude who apparently everyone knew which means he must come talk a lot. He rambled on for his allotted time, and then kept rambling. They had to threaten to have him hauled out before he finally went and sat down.

So if this was a situation of 3 minutes expired, she was still talking, and they arrested her, then ya fark those guys. However if this was a case of her time expired, they told her to stop, she kept going, they told her to stop or get arrested, she kept going, and then she got arrested, well it makes sense. If you don't put limits on shiat some people will just go on forever.

Given the propensity for old people to ramble, and for city government to be retarded, I can see it going either way.
2012-10-29 07:18:02 AM  
1 vote:
As someone who has been to countless city council meetings, I can assure you that there's no reason for ANYONE to speak for more than three minutes.
2012-10-29 04:17:43 AM  
1 vote:
They don't mention how long she exceeded the time limit. You don't get arrested for going 3:01 out of 3:00 and speaking with civility.
2012-10-29 04:16:17 AM  
1 vote:
Curious if Cali allows officers to arrest for a civil infraction such as that. In MI that is strictly not allowed. That's like arresting for simple speeding (no not careless or reckless driving). Huge overkill and specifically why MI officers are prohibited from arresting for civil infractions. And seeing as she was cited, it seems like that's all they have her on. Bad move on the part of the city and those individual officers.
2012-10-29 04:13:49 AM  
1 vote:
"City officials said officers used their discretion when Wright didn't follow the rules," according to the Press-Enterprise. Council members deny ordering her arrest.

That sounds totally legit. They just decided to interrupt a city council meeting and make the mayor look bad at their own discretion.

City Council meetings are typically recorded and the video posted on the city website, but Tuesday's incident was not caught on camera; that's because Loveridge called a recess when police intervened and the video camera is typically turned off during council recesses.

2012-10-29 04:06:51 AM  
1 vote:
fark this species,

I hope we meet aliens and they wipe us out.
2012-10-29 04:00:35 AM  
1 vote:
We need these people at the next presidential debate.
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