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(ESPN)   Eli Manning humiliates DeAngelo Hall. This is not a repeat from Sunday   ( divider line
    More: Amusing, DeAngelo Hall, Eli Manning, DeAngelo Willingham, Observer-Reporter, Justin Tuck, WFAN, Redskins, Giants  
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3873 clicks; posted to Sports » on 25 Oct 2012 at 11:21 AM (5 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2012-10-25 11:36:26 AM  
2 votes:

Wyckyd Sceptre: Eli Manning is Best Manning

Eli and Peytons daddy was probably better than they are but he was stuck with a very very bad saints team
2012-10-25 03:19:54 PM  
1 vote:
There's no objective way to determine who is the "best" team. That's a subjective determination based on what you think makes a team the "best". The way the NFL has defined

Regular season record? Some combination of computer stats based on offensive and defensive efficiency? Maybe just an eyeball test, "hey this team looks the best to me so it must be". Hell that's what they do in college football.

No, there is no objective way to determine "best". The only thing we can do is say play 16 regular season games, including 6 division games to determine your playoff seedings, win the playoff games and the Super Bowl and you're the "best" team that year. At least that is objective, everyone has the same opportunity to play well during the regular season and make their playoff run.

16-0 during the regular season and blow the Super Bowl game? Guess you weren't good enough that day, you aren't the best. Because the only objective measure of who's best is to have them play. The trophy isn't awarded to who scores the most points per game or who gets the most yards, or who has the most stingy defense. You build your team to win regular season games, then playoff games, and hopefully the Super Bowl.

Maybe it would be more determinate if they played 5 games instead of just 1. Or maybe 7 instead of 5. Or 1001 instead of 7. But they don't. Everyone knows the stakes of the playoffs and Super Bowl, you don't get an excuse "we didn't play our best that day" think all the teams you beat in the regular season played their best on the days you beat them? No, if you lose in the Super Bowl you deserved to lose and we at least know the team that beat you was better than you when everything was on the line.

Now if they did play 1001 games, results might be different. I doubt the Giants win 1001 game series against the Patriots that year. Last year it would probably be close. Funny thing is, if you think about it, pretty much every Super Bowl would be close over a huge sample like that. So what could we determine about who is best by playing more games? It's much simpler, and efficiently effective for the teams to know they have one game for everything and let them play it our. The winner is the best, as far as we are able to objectively determine.
2012-10-25 02:42:59 PM  
1 vote:

ddam: So they were tough on Eli when he was throwing INTs which resulted in losses but now that he's won two rings and he throws two picks in a game his team wins he isn't getting attacked for it... and you see a problem with this. Why?

Because he can't stand Eli Manning, and he can't stand that Giants fans love their QB despite his opinion of him.
2012-10-25 12:41:40 PM  
1 vote:
I'm confused...
-First Eli states that the play they ran succeeded because they predicted the scheme
-Hall responds by (truthfully) pointing out that the scheme was entirely appropriate to defend the play, but the DBs responsible for Cruz (neither of whom was Hall) completely blew their coverage (which they did), thereby "giving the game away"
-Eli responds with "LOL Hall gave it to me!"

I like Eli, but...he comes off looking like a dumbass here. And I don't like Hall much, but he was speaking a fact, not trash talking.
2012-10-25 11:57:30 AM  
1 vote:
STFU DHall you, should have played prevent D and held them to a FG and have RG3 win in OT.
Redskins would be 7-0 if they had any divsion 1 secondary
2012-10-25 11:48:04 AM  
1 vote:

Super Chronic: especially when the game in question is an all-around beatdown like the one the Giants laid on the Packers in last year's playoffs.

While I agree with you on the whole, I thought the comment was accurate and not in line with what Hall said. The Packers beat the Giants in New York then a few weeks later they can't seem to hold onto the ball or catch it. There were huge mental mistakes that game which made it into a beat down. It would have taken good effort to beat the then hot Giants, and I remember watching 3 Packer turnovers that were caused by sloppy play that I hadn't seen all year.
2012-10-25 11:45:01 AM  
1 vote:
It takes balls to call it a gift when Eli has, what, 20+ 4th quarter comebacks in his career now? Including 2 Super Bowls?

2012-10-25 11:38:58 AM  
1 vote:
If I had to pick what would win a race, a missile or Victor Cruz, I would always pick Cruz.
2012-10-25 09:55:40 AM  
1 vote:
Eli can be sneaky-funny sometimes, in a very dry way. And he was surprisingly good hosting SNL. Apparently he's big on pranks too.
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