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digitalrain

2012-10-07 11:30:54 PM

4 votes:

Whiskey, hot water and sugar - the poor mom's cough syrup. My mom gave it to me
when I was a kid and had a cold and it worked every time. I slept through the night
with nary a cough.

Now, if you even LOOK at a 12-pack of beer or bottle of wine in the presence of a kid,
someone SOMEwhere is going to get all butthurt about it.

My oldest turned 18 today and, to my knowledge, has never had a drink. He's seen
alcoholism wreck my mother's life and saw firsthand the struggle she went through
to beat it. He doesn't want to go down that road plus he doesn't like the idea of
putting anything in his body that will mess with the way he thinks.

We've talked about alcohol and drinking and I've told him this:

a. if you're curious about alcohol, let me know. I'd rather you tried it here at home,
where I know you're safe, than out with friends where one of you might drink and then
get behind the wheel of a car.

b. if you ever are out with friends and have been drinking, or are in a situation where
you aren't drinking and they are, call me. I don't care what time of the day or night it
is. I'll come get you, no questions asked.

So far, no middle of the night phone calls... He's a good kid - awkward and a little on
the immature side - but who isn't at that age.

jimmyego

2012-10-07 08:42:47 PM

3 votes:

Not once in that article did they indicate any actual harm had taken place. The whole piece was building up to an entire argument against this behavior and and then had zero evidence. Truly spectacular journalism.

Don't Troll Me Bro!

2012-10-07 11:49:58 PM

2 votes:

bingethinker: My favorite part of this story: 50% of parents admitted to drinking in the last month. Oh nooooo! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

How times have changed. Maybe it's not like this outside WI, but I remember going to bars for Friday fish fry with my parents when I was a little boy. You get there, and there's a line. They give the host/ess their names and you all walk into the bar to wait. They give each of the kids a buck for video games or pinball, and Mom and Dad mingle and have a drink or two while the kids mingle and play games.

Friday was coveted almost as much for that as the fact that we were about to have two days of riding the bikes and playing with friends with no school.

digitalrain

2012-10-07 11:47:16 PM

2 votes:

Aussie_As: digitalrain: Whiskey, hot water and sugar - the poor mom's cough syrup. My mom gave it to me
when I was a kid and had a cold and it worked every time. I slept through the night
with nary a cough.

Now, if you even LOOK at a 12-pack of beer or bottle of wine in the presence of a kid,
someone SOMEwhere is going to get all butthurt about it.

My oldest turned 18 today and, to my knowledge, has never had a drink. He's seen
alcoholism wreck my mother's life and saw firsthand the struggle she went through
to beat it. He doesn't want to go down that road plus he doesn't like the idea of
putting anything in his body that will mess with the way he thinks.

We've talked about alcohol and drinking and I've told him this:

a. if you're curious about alcohol, let me know. I'd rather you tried it here at home,
where I know you're safe, than out with friends where one of you might drink and then
get behind the wheel of a car.

b. if you ever are out with friends and have been drinking, or are in a situation where
you aren't drinking and they are, call me. I don't care what time of the day or night it
is. I'll come get you, no questions asked.

So far, no middle of the night phone calls... He's a good kid - awkward and a little on
the immature side - but who isn't at that age.

That's some fine parenting Lou.

/not being snarky
//pretty much the same rules with my step-kids. Didn't stop one of them spending the night in lockup though! He's a good kid who just can't handle spirits. He wasn't charged thankfully.

I've had the kid-in-lockup experience too, except in this case it was because he'd gone
batshiat insane. He's bipolar (in the worst sense of the word, not just a convenient
diagnosis by the school shrink to medicate away the fidgets) and before we got his meds
right, he would go into rages and attack. He went after a teacher with a shuffleboard stick,
threw a chair at another teacher, threatened to snap his little brother's neck, stabbed me
in the back of the neck (with a plastic knife, thankfully), put me in the ER with internal
bleeding, etc... -- and this was all before he turned 13.

Thank goodness he has grown out of the violence. Everything else we can deal with but
the violence...I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

The way I see it, its not my job to be my kids' best friend. BUT I also want to be the type
of parent they can feel comfortable talking to about anything. Whether its drugs. sex,
alcohol, or anything else.

The current trend of many parents, which is to give kids whatever they want and hold
them responsible for nothing, makes me ill.

Aussie_As

2012-10-07 11:39:24 PM

2 votes:

digitalrain: Whiskey, hot water and sugar - the poor mom's cough syrup. My mom gave it to me
when I was a kid and had a cold and it worked every time. I slept through the night
with nary a cough.

Now, if you even LOOK at a 12-pack of beer or bottle of wine in the presence of a kid,
someone SOMEwhere is going to get all butthurt about it.

My oldest turned 18 today and, to my knowledge, has never had a drink. He's seen
alcoholism wreck my mother's life and saw firsthand the struggle she went through
to beat it. He doesn't want to go down that road plus he doesn't like the idea of
putting anything in his body that will mess with the way he thinks.

We've talked about alcohol and drinking and I've told him this:

a. if you're curious about alcohol, let me know. I'd rather you tried it here at home,
where I know you're safe, than out with friends where one of you might drink and then
get behind the wheel of a car.

b. if you ever are out with friends and have been drinking, or are in a situation where
you aren't drinking and they are, call me. I don't care what time of the day or night it
is. I'll come get you, no questions asked.

So far, no middle of the night phone calls... He's a good kid - awkward and a little on
the immature side - but who isn't at that age.

That's some fine parenting Lou.

/not being snarky
//pretty much the same rules with my step-kids. Didn't stop one of them spending the night in lockup though! He's a good kid who just can't handle spirits. He wasn't charged thankfully.

bingethinker

2012-10-07 11:31:35 PM

2 votes:

My favorite part of this story: 50% of parents admitted to drinking in the last month. Oh nooooo! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

traylor

2012-10-07 11:08:34 PM

2 votes:

What a parent drinking alcohol may look like.

Also, there's a different between drinking a glass of wine with the lunch and getting wife-beaty drunk in the evening.

Ambivalence

2012-10-07 09:47:40 PM

2 votes:

I imagine light drinking probably does make one a better parent. Where you get to that lightly toasted relaxed phase. 1 or 2 beers or glasses of wine a day you can probably tolerate the screaming and acting out much better.

dahmers love zombie

2012-10-07 09:12:55 PM

2 votes:

Of course you shouldn't give your kids wine to make them fall asleep.

mrspof

2012-10-08 11:46:49 AM

1 vote:

Simple test: kids pissing you off? Have a beer or glass of wine. If you're no longer pissed, the kids were fine. You were just too damned uptight. If you're still pissed, it was the kids. Might want to tell them them to shut the hell up and fix yourself another libation.

capt.hollister

2012-10-08 02:16:37 AM

1 vote:

Slartibartfaster: AverageAmericanGuy: I threw my beer at his feet and stood up and yelled at him to stop abusing his child. In his surprise, he let the baby slip and it fell on the concrete floor and skinned its elbow and shoulder. Meanwhile, all the other kids are crying and freaking out.

Can anyone else count 7 things that are seriously farked up about this paragraph ?

// AverageAmericanGuy is ... not my experience of average, my experience of American, and not my experience of guys - the dude is a douche at best, a psychopath at worst.

...and also a successful troll

taurusowner

2012-10-08 02:07:48 AM

1 vote:

WeenerGord: taurusowner: I prefer Nyquil for sleep.

Don't forget that Nyquil has acetaminophen (tylenol) in it, and that an overdose of tylenol will destroy your liver, so if you drink too much you may need a liver transplant, or you might die.

Google it if you don't believe me

I believe you, it was just the only thing I could get in Afghanistan.

WeenerGord

2012-10-08 01:29:49 AM

1 vote:

taurusowner: I prefer Nyquil for sleep.

Don't forget that Nyquil has acetaminophen (tylenol) in it, and that an overdose of tylenol will destroy your liver, so if you drink too much you may need a liver transplant, or you might die.

Google it if you don't believe me

WxGuy1

2012-10-08 01:28:16 AM

1 vote:

WxGuy1: Aidan:
//We won't let him try the Moscato though... :)

/ Love that stuff!

Fark threw away the image, so I'll try another one:

WxGuy1

2012-10-08 01:25:03 AM

1 vote:

Aidan:
//We won't let him try the Moscato though... :)

/ Love that stuff!

ShannonKW

2012-10-08 01:09:13 AM

1 vote:

cptjeff: ShannonKW: we don't need to help scum like this make money.

Trouble is, they help Drew make money. Or did you think that kickbacks advertizing wasn't a significant part of this site's income?

Seriously, it shows up with enough frequency that I wonder if there is some sort of X-links-per-week-for-$Y going on, as there apparently was once with Strongbad. I don't know why Strongbad suddenly dropped off the radar here, but I suspect their unpopularity had something to do with it. People got tired of semi-funny Flash animations shoved in their faces, it became obvious that someone was getting paid to greenlight the shiat, and toward the end every SB thread was full of heckling, and SB finally decided it was more harm than good and took his business elsewhere to everyone's relief.

Here's hoping the same thing can be accomplished with Daily Mail. They never even gave us a Trogdor.

GladGirl

2012-10-08 12:56:47 AM

1 vote:

Drinking doesn't make my husband and I better parents, but it certainly makes us happier people. We tend to share a bottle of wine before/after the baby is asleep. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

gordian

2012-10-08 12:34:08 AM

1 vote:

Aulus: Orange Triamenic Syrup.

That stuff was AWESOME! Forgot it existed. Hated the cherry version, but would look forward to a cold just to have a spoonful. Best dessert ever.

The One True TheDavid

2012-10-08 12:07:04 AM

1 vote:

ShannonKW:

God, I'd love to see links to Daily Mail banned from Fark.... Please, for the love decency and good taste, just stop it. If it's a genuine news item, some other news site will carry it that is not staffed by sleazy cockneys who would best serve society by being rendered for kibble and shipped to hog farms.

This. Indeed.

The One True TheDavid

2012-10-08 12:04:50 AM

1 vote:

Personally I think more people should become winos instead of having kids.

Better a good drunk than a bad parent.

ShannonKW

2012-10-08 12:02:03 AM

1 vote:

some_beer_drinker: jimmyego: Not once in that article did they indicate any actual harm had taken place. The whole piece was building up to an entire argument against this behavior and and then had zero evidence. Truly spectacular journalism.

ya, the daily mail is really the cutting edge of journalism.

God, I'd love to see links to Daily Mail banned from Fark. Right, Left, or centrist, I'm sure we'd all agree that we don't need to help scum like this make money. Yes, the average farker is probably intelligent enough not to take seriously anything published by a site with celebrity tits in the sidebar, but when you visit them you are giving them page hits and contributing to the problem just as much an ignorant, fat, Englishwoman who really cares about the scandalous dress KateLo wore to the celebrity bash last weekend. And of course by luring innocent fellow farkers to... that site... you are multiplying the offense.

Please, for the love decency and good taste, just stop it. If it's a genuine news item, some other news site will carry it that is not staffed by sleazy cockneys who would best serve society by being rendered for kibble and shipped to hog farms.

Smeggy Smurf

2012-10-07 11:30:32 PM

1 vote:

My stepdaughter has a boyfriend. You bet your ass I need a drink

G.I.R.B.

2012-10-07 11:09:55 PM

1 vote:

My folks would rub whiskey on us kids' gums when we where teething.

I turned out fine

/hic

aerojockey

2012-10-07 10:59:32 PM

1 vote:

Feral_and_Preposterous

2012-10-07 10:59:18 PM

1 vote:

(On advice of our family doctor.)

Feral_and_Preposterous

2012-10-07 10:56:55 PM

1 vote:

What about Kahlua? That's what my parents mixed in my bottle to get me to sleep.

Aidan

2012-10-07 10:50:14 PM

1 vote:

Can't get myself worked up over this "study". Yeah, there are bad drunks and bad parents, and they probably often coincide. This study isn't even talking about them. This is farking handkerchief-clutching outrage-generation. And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't drink (although sometimes I certainly wish I did).

/My kid thinks alcohol tastes bad
//We won't let him try the Moscato though... :)

cptjeff

2012-10-07 10:46:39 PM

1 vote:

Actually, real live pediatricians will tell you that putting a little bit (but you know, a little) of whiskey in a kid's milk is a safe and effective way to make a kid go to sleep.

fjnorton

2012-10-07 10:44:34 PM

1 vote:

Sore throat, I got I shot of whiskey. I only complained twice before I didn't care about the sore throat when I was young. Now I come up from the basement and dad gives me the bottle.

Aussie_As

2012-10-07 10:43:42 PM

1 vote:

AverageAmericanGuy: I went camping with my son, wife, and a couple other families this weekend and one of the fathers from another family was sharing some wine with his 6 month-old son. I couldn't believe my eyes. I thought that kind of shiat only happens in Fark stories.

I threw my beer at his feet and stood up and yelled at him to stop abusing his child. In his surprise, he let the baby slip and it fell on the concrete floor and skinned its elbow and shoulder. Meanwhile, all the other kids are crying and freaking out.

Some people are terrible parents.

I was horrified until I looked up and saw who the poster was. Good work sir.

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats

2012-10-07 10:27:21 PM

1 vote:

gonzoduke: This does not mean giving your kids wine so they fall asleep

Too late

Given that this was fairly common until the teetotalers rose up, it's really not that big of a deal.

/has been told that doctors have started to come around on the total prohibition on drinking during pregnancy as well

Mr. Coffee Nerves

2012-10-07 09:44:31 PM

1 vote:

Almost a fifth? Almost a FIFTH, Daily Mail? Come on, now. You're not even *trying*

some_beer_drinker

2012-10-07 09:26:20 PM

1 vote:

jimmyego: Not once in that article did they indicate any actual harm had taken place. The whole piece was building up to an entire argument against this behavior and and then had zero evidence. Truly spectacular journalism.

ya, the daily mail is really the cutting edge of journalism.

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