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CheetahOlivetti

2012-10-01 05:00:03 AM

7 votes:

Nathan Sproul=guaranteed fraud. The GOP knows this. That's why they keep hiring him.

amd1433

2012-10-01 08:37:44 AM

6 votes:

Jorn the Younger

2012-10-01 08:19:16 AM

5 votes:

serial_crusher: James F. Campbell: Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican. Is that about right, you evil shiat-sucking bottom-feeding coelacanth-molesting scumbags?

The Republicans fired SAC. The Democrats made excuses for ACORN.

Republicans HIRED SAC after they were caught doing the same shiat four years ago, but asked them to change their name.

HMS_Blinkin

2012-10-01 07:53:31 AM

5 votes:

Jorn the Younger: FTFA: Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicity's sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in.

Ah, the old "Change your name so it takes longer for people to realize your pulling the same old dirty tricks" ploy.

Yep. And how much do you want to bet that SAC goes out of business in the next couple months, but that all the employees find nice new jobs at a new company called Democratic Elections 'R' Perfect?

propasaurus

2012-10-01 04:33:51 AM

5 votes:

Strategic Allied Consulting was paid $3 million by the RNC, $400k by the Colorado GOP, another $1.3 million by the Florida GOP, just to name a few. Not bad for a company that just opened up in June. The owner's other company is on the payroll of the Romney campaign.

James F. Campbell

2012-10-01 04:33:06 AM

5 votes:

Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican. Is that about right, you evil shiat-sucking bottom-feeding coelacanth-molesting scumbags?

Monkeyhouse Zendo

2012-10-01 08:29:09 AM

4 votes:

Tu quoque aside, that is perfectly legal provided that you don't refuse to register anyone who asks and are certain to turn in all forms that are filled out.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

You don't seem to understand that the ACORN controversy was a non-starter because ACORN turned in all filled out forms as required by law and flagged forms for review that they thought might have been filed with false information as a courtesy.

If you have evidence that ACORN was discarding registration forms or otherwise violating the law I strongly urge you to contact the appropriate authorities as this information did not come to light in any investigation of ACORN that I am aware of.

LordJiro

2012-10-01 08:01:30 AM

4 votes:

Anyone who paid for this farking unAmerican bullshiat should be stripped of any office they're holding, banned from ever holding office again, and oh yeah, thrown in farking jail.

fusillade762

2012-10-01 07:22:05 AM

4 votes:

Does money really equal speech? Especially when it only has to be directed at, what, five states? Twelve counties?

Eliminate the electoral college.
Instant runoff voting.

Disgusted by our electoral process.

/going to bed

LordJiro

2012-10-01 08:19:58 AM

3 votes:

cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters,but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

[Citation needed]. You do realize that the thing with ACORN was that workers would 'register' Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and co. just to pad their registration numbers and thus get paid more, right? And that the fraudulent forms were dealt with?

trotsky

2012-10-01 08:19:40 AM

3 votes:

Whiskey Pete: The word is that some Teatards are going to do something to disrupt voting in Ohio. Has anyone else heard of this?

They're trying, but they've been getting shot down by County Boards of Election. They keep bringing up B.S. changes to peoples right to vote. Recently some Tea Tard challenge to 296 OSU students was thrown out entirely after she couldn't provide anything sort of proof and actually rolled her eyes when some students showed up to challenge her.

Lunaville

2012-10-01 08:18:17 AM

3 votes:

cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

What constitutes a "conservative looking white woman"? Do they all look alike?

How do registration drive volunteers go out of your way to avoid men? When men approach the registration table do they hastily fold the table up, dash to another location a block or two away, and re-open for business?

Did you make any effort to approach them to test whether they would willingly register you? Or were you too busy being convinced that "They don't want to register white men because we are white men."?

Satanic_Hamster

2012-10-01 07:51:31 AM

3 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicity's sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in.

So the GOP can't really claim they were somehow mislead on this, they actually sought this guy out and suggested he form a new company to try to obscure who they were dealing with.

And in four years, they'll hire him again.

HotWingConspiracy

2012-10-01 07:46:32 AM

3 votes:

Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicity's sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in.

So the GOP can't really claim they were somehow mislead on this, they actually sought this guy out and suggested he form a new company to try to obscure who they were dealing with.

Satanic_Hamster

2012-10-01 07:44:06 AM

3 votes:

cretinbob: Someone needs to go to jail.

No, she just needs to be taught about election law and polling procedures. So here's my solution: tie her down to a saw horse or pillar and then have an oiled cheerleader wearing a patriotic bikini read her the relevant election laws while two busty Japanese women dressed as nurses spank her.

Afterwards, of course, anyone who might have been disfranchised or was offended by her behavior will form a line to run a train on her, of course.

(don't judge me)

Confabulat

2012-10-01 05:04:32 AM

3 votes:

Somehow I bet my right-wing Facebook friend will not be posting endlessly about this like he did ACORN a few years ago. Can't imagine why that would be.

themindiswatching

2012-10-01 04:35:14 AM

3 votes:

propasaurus: Strategic Allied Consulting was paid $3 million by the RNC, $400k by the Colorado GOP, another $1.3 million by the Florida GOP, just to name a few. Not bad for a company that just opened up in June. The owner's other company is on the payroll of the Romney campaign.

So...legalized money laundering?

jst3p

2012-10-01 01:14:01 PM

2 votes:

dr_blasto: fusillade762: Eliminate the electoral college.
Instant runoff voting.

Absolutely agree.

On the other hand, this guy's vote counts the same as mine. That might be "fair" but it isn't right:

PsiChick

2012-10-01 01:12:42 PM

2 votes:

Altair: cman: To be fair, at least they fired them when the accusations were brought up.

You mean once they got caught? Yeah that's fair to your dear party, but not reality. Sorry, try again.

Honestly, I'm actually pleasantly surprised they were fired once they got caught, and the GOP didn't double down. So yeah, that's...

...Well, actually, a really sad commentary on our political system.

BMulligan

2012-10-01 09:51:35 AM

2 votes:

Sproiul has been up to this stuff for years and years. Every time he gets caught, he just re-incorporates under a new name and goes right back to it. The Republicans know what he's up to - it's what they hire him for, after all - and have no interest in putting a stop to it.

Fun fact - Sproul is also involved in the for-profit education industry - charter schools and the like - and he's profited handsomely from the efforts of Republican legislators in several states. Funny, that.

One more thing - anyone who tries to draw any equivalency between this neanderfark and the ACORN allegations is either being intellectually dishonest or really, really dumb.

LordJiro

2012-10-01 09:25:58 AM

2 votes:

Fluorescent Testicle: blastoh: So let me get this right.

You forgot a few:

The Republicans are complaining about Obama being ineffectual while filibustering and cock-blocking him at every opportunity.

The Republicans are complaining about Obama's drone strikes after dragging us into two wars and while itching for a third.

The Republicans are complaining about the "Threat" of Sharia law while trying to institute a Christian theocracy.

Honestly, we could list these off all day and never run out of ideas.

The Republicans whined about Obama helping NATO in Libya, after they not only supported the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions, but after they biatched about Obama not doing anything in Libya.

The modern GOP are scum. Pure and simple.

Citrate1007

2012-10-01 09:25:27 AM

2 votes:

Already this year, the RNC has funneled more than $3.1 million to the company, just formed in June

Tell me more about how voter ID laws stop those nasty liberals from election fraud and won't stop the elderly, poor, and brown people from voting.

Hobodeluxe

2012-10-01 09:24:54 AM

2 votes:

Now we have news that Romney has ties to the vote counting machine mfgrs

Parthenogenetic

2012-10-01 09:04:35 AM

2 votes:

Felgraf: I know an election official who is a Teatard. She assumes I am too, since we both attend the same church, and we are 53 percenters. She has stated that there will be extensive GOP scrutiny of the polling stations on the west side of the district (i.e. them Dayton darkies), but she views it as counteracting Democrat cheating by the "food stamp army", and that she's sure the GOP's efforts will be perfectly legal.

Booga booga

More booga booga

If she tells you this in official communication, please keep copies of it. It may be needed as evidence later.

While she is a Teatard, she is not that dumb.

And she's not the one doing the electoral shenanigans. It's the local GOP, and their allies - in this case, True The Vote.

Parthenogenetic

2012-10-01 08:56:46 AM

2 votes:

Whiskey Pete: The word is that some Teatards are going to do something to disrupt voting in Ohio. Has anyone else heard of this?

If you're referring to "True the Vote", yes they are active in Ohio. To what extent, I don't know.

I live in what used to be a safely Republican district. It was recently merged with the former 3rd Congressional district when the new Ohio district map was formulated, to create an all-new 10th Ohio Congressional district (the former 10th district is in northern Ohio, represented by Dennis Kucinich).

I know an election official who is a Teatard. She assumes I am too, since we both attend the same church, and we are 53 percenters. She has stated that there will be extensive GOP scrutiny of the polling stations on the west side of the district (i.e. them Dayton darkies), but she views it as counteracting Democrat cheating by the "food stamp army", and that she's sure the GOP's efforts will be perfectly legal.

Booga booga

More booga booga

PonceAlyosha

2012-10-01 08:56:42 AM

2 votes:

If you actually understood what they stand for you'd know why they oppose Obama's ideas. They oppose drones because they don't lead to occupation, and in their mind, colonies. They oppose Sharia because you can't have a theocracy of two religions. It only looks like hypocrisy from a distance. It's actually just plain stupid evil.

Fart_Machine

2012-10-01 08:28:05 AM

2 votes:

LordJiro: cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters,but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

[Citation needed]. You do realize that the thing with ACORN was that workers would 'register' Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and co. just to pad their registration numbers and thus get paid more, right? And that the fraudulent forms were dealt with?

Also by law they had to submit them.

Summer Glau's Love Slave

2012-10-01 08:19:17 AM

2 votes:

xanadian: Hoboclown: We apologize for the fault of in the voter registration. Those responsible for SAC have just been sacked.

[rapidlyflashingimage 400x300]

Thanks for the seizure!

/And another vote for the Electoral College needs to go.
//Still, it's kinda funny to see it rammed up the republican's ass after the great 2000 ~~election~~ debacle.

HotWingConspiracy

2012-10-01 08:16:38 AM

2 votes:

cirby: There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

Were you on some teabag spy mission or something?

How long were you observing this? Have you stopped to consider your obvious bias might be clouding your interpretation of events?

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support

And where would those places be? Is this illegal? No? Then what is the problem?

Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

Obvious lie.

wademh

2012-10-01 08:12:52 AM

2 votes:

The GOP is very effective at reminding us of the dangers of voter fraud.

Jorn the Younger

2012-10-01 07:51:16 AM

2 votes:

FTFA: Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicity's sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in.

Ah, the old "Change your name so it takes longer for people to realize your pulling the same old dirty tricks" ploy.

Altair

2012-10-01 07:44:07 AM

2 votes:

cman: To be fair, at least they fired them when the accusations were brought up.

You mean once they got caught? Yeah that's fair to your dear party, but not reality. Sorry, try again.

dr_blasto

2012-10-01 07:36:24 AM

2 votes:

fusillade762: Eliminate the electoral college.
Instant runoff voting.

Absolutely agree.

God-is-a-Taco

2012-10-01 07:31:09 AM

2 votes:

"The Rove" is used so often that any accusation from a GOP/Republican/Conservative should trigger an investigation into the relevant Republican people or organization. Immediately, if it's a serious allegation.

If Obama gets accused of being a lizardman, then we need thermal scanners installed at GOP conventions.

cretinbob

2012-10-01 06:16:01 AM

2 votes:

Someone needs to go to jail.

loveblondieo

2012-10-01 05:16:47 AM

2 votes:

Looks they are doing some backtracking on their website for another issue.

HighOnCraic

2012-10-01 01:04:21 PM

1 vote:

propasaurus: HighOnCraic: Muta: Summoner101: I'd say it's a plus he get caught sooner and sooner in the election cycle, but given what he's doing, he should see massive fines and jail time.

I am sure Dems were probably aware of Sproul. They were happy to let the GOP send him money thinking no one would notice. Make a stink about SAC with a month left before the election and force the GOP to find a new firm to register voters now with a smaller budget and less time.

Hey, it's possible that the Democrats somehow convinced the Reagan Administration to sell arms to Iran in order to fund the Contras. I know I'll never forgive the Democrats for starting the Iraq War. And I bet it was the Democrats who forced John McCain to pick Sarah Palin as his running mate.

/The Watergate break-in? I'm not sayin' it was the Democrats, but . . . it was the Democrats.

I think it's more of a 'give them enough rope to hang themselves' kinda thing.

Maybe the Democrats forced her to commit registration fraud because she was wearing a really short skirt. The important thing is that it wasn't legitimate, so the GOP shut the whole thing down.

propasaurus

2012-10-01 12:22:34 PM

1 vote:

HighOnCraic: Muta: Summoner101: I'd say it's a plus he get caught sooner and sooner in the election cycle, but given what he's doing, he should see massive fines and jail time.

I am sure Dems were probably aware of Sproul. They were happy to let the GOP send him money thinking no one would notice. Make a stink about SAC with a month left before the election and force the GOP to find a new firm to register voters now with a smaller budget and less time.

Hey, it's possible that the Democrats somehow convinced the Reagan Administration to sell arms to Iran in order to fund the Contras. I know I'll never forgive the Democrats for starting the Iraq War. And I bet it was the Democrats who forced John McCain to pick Sarah Palin as his running mate.

/The Watergate break-in? I'm not sayin' it was the Democrats, but . . . it was the Democrats.

I think it's more of a 'give them enough rope to hang themselves' kinda thing.

Boddhisatva

2012-10-01 11:40:02 AM

1 vote:

BMulligan: One more thing - anyone who tries to draw any equivalency between this neanderfark and the ACORN allegations is either being intellectually dishonest or really, really dumb.

That's not true. They could be intellectually dishonest AND really, really dumb. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

m2313

2012-10-01 11:12:29 AM

1 vote:

serial_crusher: The Republicans fired SAC. The Democrats made excuses for ACORN.

False as well as being a false equivalency.
ACORN turned in its own and wasn't doing anything as an organization. Democrats threw them under the bus due to their lack of spine and inability to not give in to Republican traitor scum. ACORN did nothing wrong and was shamed out for no reason.
The Republicans fired SAC (an organization wholesale dedicated to nothing but fraud for the Republican Party and explicitly hired for that purpose) only after they got caught trying to rig the election for the GOP.

BammerTide

2012-10-01 10:31:52 AM

1 vote:

Was not just Palm Beach county. 10 other counties found suspicious voter registrations.
Bay, Clay, Duval, Escambia, Lee, Miami-Dade, Okaloosa, Pasco and Santa Rosa.
FDLE was called in to investigate

LordJiro

2012-10-01 10:26:35 AM

1 vote:

skullkrusher: first is alleged to have committed voter registration fraud and the RNC dumped them over the allegations. Sounds fairly kosher, especially considering the sort of thing the RNC is capable of in 2012

The problem is that they were fired when they were caught, then quietly rehired once the company changed its name to continue doing the same thing.

Republicans cannot win on the issues. More and more people realize how toxic their ideas are, and just how much damage Republicans have done to this country in the last few decades. Their only hope is to cheat.

BMulligan

2012-10-01 10:17:52 AM

1 vote:

skullkrusher: Sounds fairly kosher

No, it doesn't. This isn't the first time Sproul has gotten caught, but he keeps getting rehired. That's not kosher at all.

Heron

2012-10-01 09:56:28 AM

1 vote:

It should probably be pointed out that ACORN, as an organization, was cleared of all accusations it was encouraging voter-fraud. IIRC the most that could be proved was that two temporary employees in the Midwest had provided false registration docs to ACORN to pad their monthly numbers, which is a fraud against ACORN, not by it. Of course, it had already been all but attained by Congress and dismantled by the Dems at that point...

ghare

2012-10-01 09:56:25 AM

1 vote:

cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

Threats everywhere! Reds! Libs! Women! Minorities! Conservatives, commence wetting pants!

Vegan Meat Popsicle

2012-10-01 09:31:58 AM

1 vote:

Hobodeluxe: Now we have news that Romney has ties to the vote counting machine mfgrs

At this point it would be faster to just explain the ways in which republicans are not actively undermining the very basis of American democracy.

andrewagill

2012-10-01 09:28:44 AM

1 vote:

amd1433: [efectecom.files.wordpress.com image 425x282]

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RubberBandMan

2012-10-01 09:01:45 AM

1 vote:

Fox News, I'll believe this when I see a credible news source report.............Oh, never mind.

stoli n coke

2012-10-01 08:59:41 AM

1 vote:

serial_crusher: stoli n coke: bboy: I don't understand how trying to register Romney supporters to vote is illegal or wrong.

I'm the libbiest lib that ever libbed, and I know at least one person who works for a voter organization (non-profit) group that has no interest in registering Romney supporters. What's wrong with that?

There is nothing wrong with setting up registration drives in places that skew to one party. Both sides do that. However, you cannot refuse to register or disregard the registrations of people who don't like that particular party.

IIRC from the first thread, there weren't actually any laws against that.
If the girl was in fact working for the county clerk's office like she claimed, then it would have been illegal, since the county clerk's office is supposed to be nonpartisan. But when an independent group does it, it's not illegal.
Saying that you work for the County Clerk when you really don't, definitely sounds like it should be illegal though, even if driven by stupidity.

Actually, any group taking voter registrations has to comply with FEC rules, one of which is you have to take and submit any registration that is given.

The fraudulent claim of saying she worked for the county clerk was just what caught her.

Fubar

2012-10-01 08:59:35 AM

1 vote:

CSB

A few weeks back, walking through the student union, some friends and I walked passed the college republican tent. One of them asked one of us if we would like to register republican, and he said no thank you. I then heard him mutter under his breath, "didn't think so". I confronted the guy about this, and he told me he was talking about someone else. I then asked him if he would register me if I told him I was going to vote democratic, and he said no, that his boss wouldn't allow that. Someone else them came over, about 5 minutes into the conversation, backtracking the situation, saying that as a matter of fact, they had already registered 2 democrats that day.

After that, ive had no trouble believing all of the crap coming out about these registration companies.

Vegan Meat Popsicle

2012-10-01 08:59:15 AM

1 vote:

bboy: I don't understand how trying to register Romney supporters to vote is illegal or wrong.

Trying? That's not illegal. Arguably wrong, but not illegal. For example, you could intentionally not knock on doors your know to be democratic voters. But once somebody requests a form or hands you a completed one you're obligated to turn it in. It's to prevent people like this nitwit from just whipping your form in the trash so that you think you're registered only to find out on election day you can't vote.

Felgraf

2012-10-01 08:59:00 AM

1 vote:

Parthenogenetic: Whiskey Pete: The word is that some Teatards are going to do something to disrupt voting in Ohio. Has anyone else heard of this?

If you're referring to "True the Vote", yes they are active in Ohio. To what extent, I don't know.

I live in what used to be a safely Republican district. It was recently merged with the former 3rd Congressional district when the new Ohio district map was formulated, to create an all-new 10th Ohio Congressional district (the former 10th district is in northern Ohio, represented by Dennis Kucinich).

I know an election official who is a Teatard. She assumes I am too, since we both attend the same church, and we are 53 percenters. She has stated that there will be extensive GOP scrutiny of the polling stations on the west side of the district (i.e. them Dayton darkies), but she views it as counteracting Democrat cheating by the "food stamp army", and that she's sure the GOP's efforts will be perfectly legal.

Booga booga

More booga booga

If she tells you this in official communication, please keep copies of it. It may be needed as evidence later.

Fluorescent Testicle

2012-10-01 08:57:06 AM

1 vote:

heavymetal: You are so correct. When I think of it, at least in the past ten years as the echo chamber finally sealed them off from reality, there isn't a single accusation which hasn't turned out to be a projection of their own actions.

It almost makes me wonder which high-ranking Republican faked his birth certificate. :P

serial_crusher

2012-10-01 08:54:49 AM

1 vote:

stoli n coke: bboy: I don't understand how trying to register Romney supporters to vote is illegal or wrong.

I'm the libbiest lib that ever libbed, and I know at least one person who works for a voter organization (non-profit) group that has no interest in registering Romney supporters. What's wrong with that?

There is nothing wrong with setting up registration drives in places that skew to one party. Both sides do that. However, you cannot refuse to register or disregard the registrations of people who don't like that particular party.

IIRC from the first thread, there weren't actually any laws against that.
If the girl was in fact working for the county clerk's office like she claimed, then it would have been illegal, since the county clerk's office is supposed to be nonpartisan. But when an independent group does it, it's not illegal.
Saying that you work for the County Clerk when you really don't, definitely sounds like it should be illegal though, even if driven by stupidity.

King Something

2012-10-01 08:53:57 AM

1 vote:

not5am: themindiswatching: propasaurus: Strategic Allied Consulting was paid $3 million by the RNC, $400k by the Colorado GOP, another $1.3 million by the Florida GOP, just to name a few. Not bad for a company that just opened up in June. The owner's other company is on the payroll of the Romney campaign.

So...legalized money laundering?

$400K is half of colorado gop's budget. are they looking to bankrupt themselves?

They're going for the Hail Mary of "winning by preventing Democrats from casting votes in the first place." Since they know they can't win fair and square, they're trying to win by hook and crook.

Besides, they don't need to worry about having a budget of under one million dollars when the Super PACs have budgets of hundreds of millions or even billions.

Markoff_Cheney

2012-10-01 08:52:12 AM

1 vote:

blastoh: So let me get this right.

The republicans are complaining about voter fraud while... committing voter fraud?

The republicans are complaining about the debt after running up the debt?

The republicans complain about media bias while watching Fox news?

The republicans complain about Obama being divisive while complaing about half the country and blah people causing all the problems?

If only there was some word in the english language that could define this behavior.

And I think we have established that the best way to find out what the republicans have been doing lately is to listen to waht they are complaining about.

Ironic (or not) that so many of them are self loathing.

the words you were looking for are 'hilariously sad'.

Fluorescent Testicle

2012-10-01 08:52:05 AM

1 vote:

blastoh: So let me get this right.

You forgot a few:

The Republicans are complaining about Obama being ineffectual while filibustering and cock-blocking him at every opportunity.

The Republicans are complaining about Obama's drone strikes after dragging us into two wars and while itching for a third.

The Republicans are complaining about the "Threat" of Sharia law while trying to institute a Christian theocracy.

Honestly, we could list these off all day and never run out of ideas.

serial_crusher

2012-10-01 08:48:55 AM

1 vote:

Felgraf: After all, if 90% of the African american population votes for the Democrats, then, well, fark it, toss all registrations from blacks. Sure, they'll catch some republicans, but statistically they'll screw over the Democrats a lot harder.

Sure, all I'm saying is if you're looking at how somebody dresses (since we're talking about an in-person voter registration drive), you can pretty easily do the same kind of math. Maybe not as precise, but still pretty good.

If all you had were names, addresses, and a map, you could make the same assumptions without seeing people.

GameSprocket

2012-10-01 08:48:50 AM

1 vote:

For the record - Acorn discovered and flagged bad registration cards themselves. In SAC's case, the cards were found by state election workers.

stoli n coke

2012-10-01 08:47:26 AM

1 vote:

bboy: I don't understand how trying to register Romney supporters to vote is illegal or wrong.

I'm the libbiest lib that ever libbed, and I know at least one person who works for a voter organization (non-profit) group that has no interest in registering Romney supporters. What's wrong with that?

There is nothing wrong with setting up registration drives in places that skew to one party. Both sides do that. However, you cannot refuse to register or disregard the registrations of people who don't like that particular party.

Pharque-it

2012-10-01 08:46:20 AM

1 vote:

Maybe UN should send election observers to the US, like they do to other third world countries when elections...

blastoh

2012-10-01 08:46:09 AM

1 vote:

So let me get this right.

The republicans are complaining about voter fraud while... committing voter fraud?

The republicans are complaining about the debt after running up the debt?

The republicans complain about media bias while watching Fox news?

The republicans complain about Obama being divisive while complaing about half the country and blah people causing all the problems?

If only there was some word in the english language that could define this behavior.

And I think we have established that the best way to find out what the republicans have been doing lately is to listen to waht they are complaining about.

Ironic (or not) that so many of them are self loathing.

Fluorescent Testicle

2012-10-01 08:39:20 AM

1 vote:

Jorn the Younger: Ok, so you can see my posts. I thought maybe you had me on ignore, since you refuse to acknowledge that The Artist Currently Known As SAC was caught doing these same things four years ago, and were hired by the RNC again, before being caught again.

Thing is, you're missing an important point: IOKIYAR.

It's not a joke anymore, it's damn near codified law these days.

Vegan Meat Popsicle

2012-10-01 08:35:32 AM

1 vote:

serial_crusher: Who needs evidence or anything like that?

You mean like in 2004 when there were widespread allegations of registration fraud against Spraul in Arizona during his stint with the state republican party?

So it's okay to tear down ACORN, a group that broke no laws, because a cross-dressing criminal intentionally edits a video to create an impression of an incident that never happened.... but the stuff in AZ was only allegations so it makes perfect sense that this guy would be hired again to do the same work of which he was accused of messing up before?

Just making sure I understand your special brand of lie you special, special boy.

bighairyguy

2012-10-01 08:34:11 AM

1 vote:

I was in the Young Republicans briefly in 1968 and did some door-to-door voter registration, "looking for unregistered Republicans" was our line. Signed up a few from both both parties. Got to meet a guy who voted for McKinley, so that was cool. Was YR the modern day equivalent of the Hitler Youth? Kind of. Think more self-righteous and less competent. A friend of mine did similar work for the equivalent Democrat youth organization and had pretty much the same experience. The only group of people more terrifying in their ideology I've ever been around was freshman journalism majors.

Markoff_Cheney

2012-10-01 08:32:32 AM

1 vote:

Markoff_Cheney: Jorn the Younger: cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

What the frying fark does "conservative-looking" even mean? What are the criteria?

white.

oh and comma male. or the fat biatch in the hoveround upthread.

James F. Campbell

2012-10-01 08:32:26 AM

1 vote:

serial_crusher: The Republicans fired SAC. The Democrats made excuses for ACORN.

Sometimes I look at you and think, gosh, I wish I could be as evil and selfish and narrow-minded as serial_crusher. ._. Then I would not have to worry about people destroying the planet or ruining other people's lives. I could just kick back, get paid to make stupid posts all day, and relax. At least I hope you get paid to do this. Doing it for free just seems... really depressing, actually. ._.

Matrix Flavored Wasabi

2012-10-01 08:32:18 AM

1 vote:

cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

You realize that there was no wrongdoing actually found on the behalf of ACORN? But then again, you're a partisan hack so I don't expect you to.

MithrandirBooga

2012-10-01 08:30:18 AM

1 vote:

serial_crusher: Altair: cman: To be fair, at least they fired them when the accusations were brought up.

You mean once they got caught? Yeah that's fair to your dear party, but not reality. Sorry, try again.

Yep, should fire everybody before they get caught. Who needs evidence or anything like that? They're republicans, so they must be up to something wrong.

They were known for doing this in the past. The Republicans knew this, asked them to change their name to avoid looking guilty, then hired them again.

THEN fired them after they got caught doing it again.

That's like hiring a babysitter who has killed every child they've sat for before, and acting SHOCKED when they kill yours too.

Fart_Machine

2012-10-01 08:30:12 AM

1 vote:

Except that the GOP hired them to do exactly what they were doing? It wasn't a bug it was a feature.

FlippityFlap

2012-10-01 08:27:54 AM

1 vote:

Poor cirby........ Just another one of the downtrodden white males in America. Another Dickens tale in the making. Will he ever be free??

Whiskey Pete

2012-10-01 08:21:04 AM

1 vote:

cirby: they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

Markoff_Cheney

2012-10-01 08:20:33 AM

1 vote:

cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

well here is my anecdotal evidence:
went to the queen soopers downtown and the lady was yelling at the top of her lungs to anyone with an ear to register and get out their vote.
she didnt give a fark and i look just like your white male republican, even got out of a work truck right in front of her to go deposit my check.
to hear of voter reg. fraud in my state pisses me off, but based on the statisticals, they have to do better than that to steal this state.
/we blue now.

Lunaville

2012-10-01 08:10:01 AM

1 vote:

dr_blasto: fusillade762: Eliminate the electoral college.
Instant runoff voting.

Absolutely agree.

Yes, maybe we should start a petition or something.

keylock71

2012-10-01 08:07:32 AM

1 vote:

These people have no shame...

victrin

2012-10-01 08:07:01 AM

1 vote:

So... Republicans introduce marginalizing anti-fraud voter ID laws, to distract from their voter fraud? Brilliant!

Summoner101

2012-10-01 07:53:35 AM

1 vote:

Satanic_Hamster: HotWingConspiracy: Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicity's sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in.

So the GOP can't really claim they were somehow mislead on this, they actually sought this guy out and suggested he form a new company to try to obscure who they were dealing with.

And in four years, they'll hire him again.

I'd say it's a plus he get caught sooner and sooner in the election cycle, but given what he's doing, he should see massive fines and jail time.

xanadian

2012-10-01 07:50:19 AM

1 vote:

Hoboclown: We apologize for the fault of in the voter registration. Those responsible for SAC have just been sacked.

James F. Campbell

2012-10-01 07:48:06 AM

1 vote:

bmongar: James F. Campbell: Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican. Is that about right, you evil shiat-sucking bottom-feeding coelacanth-molesting scumbags?

Don't hold back James, bottling up your feelings is bad for you, tell us how you really feel.

Won't someone think of the poor, poor coelacanths? ;__;

Markoff_Cheney

2012-10-01 07:46:27 AM

1 vote:

Hoboclown: We apologize for the fault of in the voter registration. Those responsible for SAC have just been sacked.

win.
wow, my states republicans blew half its load on this shiat?
good luck.
/nate silver

Sybarite

2012-10-01 07:30:13 AM

1 vote:

I'd poll her.

sweetmelissa31

2012-10-01 07:26:06 AM

1 vote:

loveblondieo: Looks they are doing some backtracking on their website for another issue.

What's with Republicans and awful websites? I mean disregarding the content...

notmtwain

2012-10-01 07:08:06 AM

1 vote:

from STRATEGIC ALLIED CONSULTING

Our company has recently come under scrutiny because the Palm Beach County
Supervisor of Elections found approximately 20 suspicious cards that had been
turned into her office through a project our company managed.

Due to our quality control measures, we were able to identify that the cards in
question were all the work of one individual. We then gathered copies of the other
86 cards this gentleman had collected and turned those over to them as well.

Ms. Bucher, the Supervisor of Elections, thanked our managers for their
organization and complimented our team for its quality control measures.

To put this in perspective, in Palm Beach over 100 people worked on the effort.
Statewide in Florida, over 2,000 worked on the effort. And nationally, we had
thousands more working in other states.

The reason we have quality control measures in place is because we recognize that
with projects this large, there will be isolated incidents of individuals trying to cheat
the system.

We are aware of questionable cards in a few additional counties. In the three
counties where we know the details, each county is limited to one individual.

Our voter registration projects began in 2004 with a large project from the
Republican National Committee. Toward the end of that project, an individual in
NV spuriously claimed to see Democrat voter registration cards torn up and in a
trashcan.

Senator Kennedy requested an investigation by the Department of Justice
concerning the entire effort. The DOJ and Arizona Attorney General's Office
launched an investigation. After a period of time, the investigations and the files
were closed. Readers may view the file closing cover sheet here. It should also be
noted that the Attorney General in Arizona at the time was a Democrat.

The Democrat Attorney General in Oregon and the Nevada Attorney General also
began investigations. In each of the three investigations conducted by four law
enforcement agencies, we were given a clean bill of health.

Our quality control measures and the clear intent of our culture to not tolerate fraud
were clearly on display to anyone investigating. We would refer you to a memo drafted
by our attorney detailing the rigorous quality control procedures that we enforce
with our supervisors. That memo can be seen here.

In the eight years that our company and affiliated companies have existed, we
have registered over 500,000 voters across the country. We have conducted voter
registration and grassroots projects in over 40 states.

There is a reason we are hired for these difficult projects. No other consulting
company in the country can quickly grow a program to scale with high levels of
quality control in place, meet its goals and stay on budget.

We are very proud of our work product. Unfortunately, not everyone takes the issue
of fraud seriously. When someone commits voter fraud, it is an affront to everyone
living in this country. We wrote the following email to our supervisors toward the
beginning of this project. It can be viewed here.

When the Republican Party of Florida chose to make likely libelous comments
about our effort and stated that the Republican National Committee suggested us
as the vendor, the RNC was put in the unenviable position of ending a long-term
relationship for the sake of staying focused on the election.

While we wish their comments yesterday would have more accurately addressed the
situation, we understand the logic of ending distractions and winning elections. We
wish our friends there nothing but success going forward.

Previously, during this campaign we issued the following email to our supervisors:

"Supervisors,

The bright white lights of a presidential campaign are on. This was filmed in NV. You can see that our worker did her job pefectly. Good job, but what if she hadn't? We have to constantly remind our supervisors of our culture of excellence and integrity. Excellence because we are thorough, precise and pay attention to detail. Integrity because we honor the sanctity of the voter registration process. When a new voter entrusts us with there voter registration card, there are a few things that deserve more care and attention. Men and women gave their lives so we could have the privilege to vote. When we drill into our supervisors heads that regardless of who the new voter supports for President we will honor their card with the respect it deserves, we teach them how to teach their workers.

// Just passing it along. Why don't you tell me the truth?

AbbeySomeone

2012-10-01 03:52:48 AM

1 vote:

No way!

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