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2012-09-25 2:55:48 PM  
My neighbor growing up was a retired Ford plant manager and he had five heart attacks before he finally died. On his fourth, he was smoking a Marlboro on the gurney as the EMTs wheeled him out of his house. He claimed he never felt his first two attacks, but that his doctor found out about them after the fact.

I had a doctor mention to me once that blinding pain in your left arm isn't a great metric for whether or not you're having a heart attack. He said feeling like you have really bad gas and profuse sweating are far better indicators.
 
2012-09-25 3:41:05 PM  
Don't drive yourself if you're symptomatic. Call 911. You're better waiting five minutes, and having the ER brought to you, than you are driving to the hospital, passing out from an arrhythmia on the way, and crashing into someone's house.

And another point to be made: You will NOT get seen faster and treated faster if you go yourself, versus calling 911. Paramedics have these nifty things called 12-lead EKGs, which can identify time-critical heart attacks as they are developing, and get you into the cath lab just as fast, if not faster, than going straight to an ER. They also have the ability to begin immediate, and lifesaving drug therapies at your doorstep.

Lsherm: I had a doctor mention to me once that blinding pain in your left arm isn't a great metric for whether or not you're having a heart attack. He said feeling like you have really bad gas and profuse sweating are far better indicators.


The last two heart attacks I've treated have had "flu like symptoms" and pain behind the shoulder blades, unaffected with movement, as the presenting complaint. Usually, the "pain" will be a throbbing ache or numbness, oddly enough. Not saying people can't have "blinding" pain, but it's rather unusual to see cardiac pain in the left arm described as "blinding"
 
2012-09-25 3:52:51 PM  
Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...
 
2012-09-25 3:56:38 PM  

Elzar: Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...


Skinny people have heart attacks too.

They actually tend to die more frequently from missed, or untreated ones, and tend to have unmanaged issues such as stress, hypertension, or high cholesterol - unaddressed because of the stereotype that only fat people have heart attacks.
 
2012-09-25 4:03:00 PM  

BronyMedic: Elzar: Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...

Skinny people have heart attacks too.

They actually tend to die more frequently from missed, or untreated ones, and tend to have unmanaged issues such as stress, hypertension, or high cholesterol - unaddressed because of the stereotype that only fat people have heart attacks.


Exactly. Just ask Jim Fixx, oh, wait....we can't..

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2012-09-25 4:56:15 PM  

Lsherm: He claimed he never felt his first two attacks, but that his doctor found out about them after the fact.



My dad had a minor heart attack and never knew until he went in for an unrelated matter weeks later.  The doctor described it on a scale of 1 to 10, it being a 2.
 
/CSB
 
2012-09-25 4:59:43 PM  
My mom had a heart attack when I was ten. She walked the dog, then was driven to the hospital, where the doctor told her it was asthma and sent her home. Then she drove to the pharmacy to get asthma meds and nitroglycerin, which was prescribed "just in case." She took me to school the next day, walked the dog again, took some nitro, and drove herself to the hospital again, where this time she got a double bypass.

/csb
 
2012-09-25 5:01:55 PM  

Lsherm: My neighbor growing up was a retired Ford plant manager and he had five heart attacks before he finally died. On his fourth, he was smoking a Marlboro on the gurney as the EMTs wheeled him out of his house. He claimed he never felt his first two attacks, but that his doctor found out about them after the fact.

I had a doctor mention to me once that blinding pain in your left arm isn't a great metric for whether or not you're having a heart attack. He said feeling like you have really bad gas and profuse sweating are far better indicators.


Apparently, Mexican food gives me heart attacks.
 
2012-09-25 5:05:30 PM  

Elzar: Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...


You have issues. Assuming your status as an ubermensch grants you long life, I doubt you're going to enjoy it much anyway. Regardless, I'm pretty sure anyone who manages that as the Boobies in a thread without any provocation is going to end up with heart problems anyway, so have fun with that.
 
2012-09-25 5:06:21 PM  

Elzar: Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...


Don't you have to be at the gym in 26 minutes?
 
2012-09-25 5:09:26 PM  

Elzar: Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...


Wow. While I am happy to be "near" my ideal weight, eat healthy and exercise (just had my physical, cholesterol of a 20 year old, etc) - I don't think you quite grasp heart disease. And I REALLY hope you have good genetics, live a stress-free life and karma isn't real....
 
2012-09-25 5:10:26 PM  
Jim Fixx is dead, Keith Richards, still alive. Go figure.
 
2012-09-25 5:10:44 PM  
Yeah, fifteen years ago my Dad came home to San Antonio from helping bury my grandfather while my mother stayed in Houston to help my grandmother. He watched a movie and went to bed. At about two in the morning, the dog wouldn't leave him alone. Whining, pawing at him, looking worried. After an hour of this he started to feel weird. So he covered the outdoor plants in case of a freeze, walked the dog, and drove himself to the hospital. Triple bypass. He said the dog probably saved his life.
 
2012-09-25 5:12:11 PM  
I have (apparently harmless) chest pains every now and then but I always freak out and have a panic attack. The problem is, my mind starts racing and I get lightheaded/dizzy, sometimes clammy/sweaty, and can experience back/arm/neck pain along with it.

Every time (twice) I've gone to the hospital with these symptoms, they've checked me out and said I was fine. Must be indigestion.

I'm not saying don't go to the hospital or call 911. I'm just saying if I did that every time I had these symptoms, I'd have a lot of unnecessary medical procedures and bills to go along with them.

What really scares me is one of these days it's really going to be a heart attack. And I'll just tell myself "man up, pussy...you're just having another panic attack" and then I'll slip into unconsciousness and die.
 
2012-09-25 5:13:18 PM  
CSB: My mom called me Sunday and said dad had got stung by a bee and was having a allergic reaction. EMTs had to convince him to get into the meat wagon.

/Vietnam vet
//tough as nails
///except to tiny bastardly yellow jackets
 
2012-09-25 5:16:11 PM  
Bad gas and profuse sweating, eh? I seem to have had a heart attack on Friday evening. And Saturday. And Monday.

How is one to tell if it's serious or not? I mean, we sit here pointing and laughing at people who didn't think it was serious and had no idea it was a heart attack... but I can't tell you how many times I've had chest pain I passed off as gas or indigestion. Right now, I'm having a slight feeling of a weight bearing down on my chest, and my heart is beating not as duh-DUM, duh-DUM, duh-DUM but as BUNPF.............. BUNPF .............. BUNPF

.....................................

BUNPF.......BUNPF...........................BUNPF......

And now back to normal. Happens every so often to me.

No pain, really. Just that odd feeling. I certainly don't think I'm having a heart attack, but some might say I should be reaching for the aspirin and dialing 911.

And when I get to the hospital, after a huge bill from the Fire Dept to haul my ass there, and they tell me there's nothing farking wrong, I'll have a note in my HMO's file for a false alarm and possible hypochondria.

So - how can one tell?
 
2012-09-25 5:16:35 PM  
Or walk your schools 6 kids to block. Makes about as much sense.
 
2012-09-25 5:16:39 PM  
Male, have a family history, hate hospitals, not going, sorry.
 
2012-09-25 5:18:10 PM  

myrrh: Or walk your schools 6 kids to block. Makes about as much sense.


lolz
 
2012-09-25 5:23:23 PM  
Like most people can afford to pay for ER visits every time they have some minor chest pain. What country does the article author think we live in?
 
2012-09-25 5:23:38 PM  
Just bum rush some policemen. The taser will either finish you off or make you good as new
 
2012-09-25 5:23:41 PM  
Wonder if she has more articles about stuff her husband shouldn't have done? I bet she could crank out a few hundred over a weekend.
 
2012-09-25 5:24:03 PM  

The Wizard of Frobozz: I have (apparently harmless) chest pains every now and then but I always freak out and have a panic attack. The problem is, my mind starts racing and I get lightheaded/dizzy, sometimes clammy/sweaty, and can experience back/arm/neck pain along with it.

Every time (twice) I've gone to the hospital with these symptoms, they've checked me out and said I was fine. Must be indigestion.

I'm not saying don't go to the hospital or call 911. I'm just saying if I did that every time I had these symptoms, I'd have a lot of unnecessary medical procedures and bills to go along with them.

What really scares me is one of these days it's really going to be a heart attack. And I'll just tell myself "man up, pussy...you're just having another panic attack" and then I'll slip into unconsciousness and die.


Three times for me. Two other times i didn't go to the hospital and i was pretty sure it wasn't indigestion because i hadn't eaten anything in hours. Time slows to a crawl waiting for the episode to pass.
i've had two heart caths. The first showed 30% blockage. The second one i received last week and the resulting image showed clear blood vessels. i am not sure if that is normal or even possible, but now i have Xanax to help with the panic attacks.
i get moderate to hard pains often. It's when i feel the way you described i worry. Diagnoses so far? Anxiety, Vasovagal Response and now Stress.
Life is fun.

/End CSB
 
2012-09-25 5:25:27 PM  
Or just officiate a wedding. That's worked out well...
 
2012-09-25 5:25:46 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So - how can one tell?


Wear a little heart beat meter, like a semi-portable ekg machine
 
2012-09-25 5:28:34 PM  

The Wizard of Frobozz: I have (apparently harmless) chest pains every now and then but I always freak out and have a panic attack. The problem is, my mind starts racing and I get lightheaded/dizzy, sometimes clammy/sweaty, and can experience back/arm/neck pain along with it.

Every time (twice) I've gone to the hospital with these symptoms, they've checked me out and said I was fine. Must be indigestion.

I'm not saying don't go to the hospital or call 911. I'm just saying if I did that every time I had these symptoms, I'd have a lot of unnecessary medical procedures and bills to go along with them.

What really scares me is one of these days it's really going to be a heart attack. And I'll just tell myself "man up, pussy...you're just having another panic attack" and then I'll slip into unconsciousness and die.



Same here.  I have anxiety issues, and have had random panic attacks for no good reason (times I wasn't necessarily stressed.)
 
That is *precisely* what I'm afraid of.  I've been to the hospital 3 times because of it, and the attack went away before the doctor even came to see me.  Sort of embarassing.
 
They're rare, but still happen... now I've gotten to the point where I just sit down and try to relax.  But what the hell is going to happen when it *IS* a heart attack?
 
2012-09-25 5:30:19 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Bad gas and profuse sweating, eh? I seem to have had a heart attack on Friday evening. And Saturday. And Monday.

How is one to tell if it's serious or not? I mean, we sit here pointing and laughing at people who didn't think it was serious and had no idea it was a heart attack... but I can't tell you how many times I've had chest pain I passed off as gas or indigestion. Right now, I'm having a slight feeling of a weight bearing down on my chest, and my heart is beating not as duh-DUM, duh-DUM, duh-DUM but as BUNPF.............. BUNPF .............. BUNPF

.....................................

BUNPF.......BUNPF...........................BUNPF......

And now back to normal. Happens every so often to me.

No pain, really. Just that odd feeling. I certainly don't think I'm having a heart attack, but some might say I should be reaching for the aspirin and dialing 911.

And when I get to the hospital, after a huge bill from the Fire Dept to haul my ass there, and they tell me there's nothing farking wrong, I'll have a note in my HMO's file for a false alarm and possible hypochondria.

So - how can one tell?


If it is like you say, an appointment with a cardiologist would be useful. He'll some of the same tests as the ER (at a much lower cost) and give you an idea. It kind of sounds like you have a nerve problem.
 
2012-09-25 5:31:14 PM  

Elzar: Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...


I bet you are friendless and alone. Hey if a douchebag has a heart attack and has no one that gives a shiat about them, does it really farking matter? When they find your corpse half eaten by your starving cats 3 weeks after the fact, I hope we read about it on fark.

Hint: abrasive, angry, bitter shiatholes have more heart attacks than anyone, even the skinny ones that spend hours a day on gym equipment working out their frustration at being hot, but yet still unable to get anyone to fark them because they are such dicks.
 
2012-09-25 5:31:18 PM  

Elzar: Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...


Jim Fixx died of a heart attack.

But you can rest-assured that your piss-poor attitude will make people not give a shiat if you have one yourself.

Bye.
 
2012-09-25 5:31:42 PM  
Well im just a humble corporate slave,
Driving myself into a corporate grave

-Snog - Corporate Slave
 
2012-09-25 5:32:07 PM  

Elzar: Enjoy your heart attacks fatties. Less spoon to mouth exercise and more cardio if you want to avoid heart disease all together... but do go on, have another round of breadsticks before the emergency room trip - you farking smelly fat farks...


Jim Fixx would disagree...
 
2012-09-25 5:33:33 PM  
Not so CSB

A couple of years ago I was camping with a group of friends, several hours from home and an hour or so from a hospital (at least) and I woke up in the morning, slightly hungover, with excruciating chest pain--so bad I couldn't move--and yes the pain radiated down my left arm.

I was pretty sure I was going to die in the hammock I was laying in, and so I laid there for a bit and tried to make peace with the world. And about the time I had decided that death was not going to be so bad, I remember I had an incident the day before where a friend playfully (and not very hard) had punched me in the chest. At the time I had said "dude, I think you just broke something."

Once I realized this, I struggled up out of the hammock and could feel one of my ribs in the upper left side of my chest grinding about a bit (a sort of screech, scratch, scrunch noise in there.) I blew off the pain as being a cracked rib. I lived with it for five weeks or so, slowly getting better.

But I've often wondered if I did actually did have a heart attack that morning and just talked myself into believing it was a cracked rib.

At any rate, I'm no longer a newt, so I got better.

/not so CSB
 
2012-09-25 5:33:47 PM  
Heart attacks are serious business. One claimed my father at 52, not 3 months ago.

If you have a risk of heart disease, or a history of it in the family, don't wait till your older to start managing risk. Get your blood tested for cholesterol, stay in shape, don't smoke, and watch what you eat. It sucks, yeah, but it can add years to your life and spare your family some grief.
 
2012-09-25 5:34:18 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Benevolent Misanthrope: So - how can one tell?

Wear a little heart beat meter, like a semi-portable ekg machine


OMG, my heartbeat has changed from rock-n-roll to a waltz. If it changes to jazz, I'm a dead man.
 
2012-09-25 5:36:02 PM  
Unless you're prone to have panic attacks. Then you get used to the idea of waiting around to see if you chill out first.  Because going to the ER 4-9 times a week because you "don't hesitate and take chances" will get real expensive real quick.
 
2012-09-25 5:36:44 PM  

Snarfangel: OMG, my heartbeat has changed from rock-n-roll to a waltz. If it changes to jazz, I'm a dead man.


But what about dubstep?

wub wub wub wub wuuuuubbbbb wubwubwuuw wub wuuuuuubbbb
 
2012-09-25 5:37:55 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: How is one to tell if it's serious or not? I mean, we sit here pointing and laughing at people who didn't think it was serious and had no idea it was a heart attack... but I can't tell you how many times I've had chest pain I passed off as gas or indigestion. Right now, I'm having a slight feeling of a weight bearing down on my chest, and my heart is beating not as duh-DUM, duh-DUM, duh-DUM but as BUNPF.............. BUNPF .............. BUNPF

.....................................

BUNPF.......BUNPF...........................BUNPF......

And now back to normal. Happens every so often to me.

 

Maybe its atrial fibrillation.  I had it once (mine lasted 3 days though).  Take the other posters suggestion and see a cardiologist.  They have a ton of great tools to narrow it down.
 
 
/I'm not a doctor.
 
2012-09-25 5:38:09 PM  

Snarfangel: Lost Thought 00: Benevolent Misanthrope: So - how can one tell?

Wear a little heart beat meter, like a semi-portable ekg machine

OMG, my heartbeat has changed from rock-n-roll to a waltz. If it changes to jazz, I'm a dead man.


But what does it mean if it goes all Dubstep on me?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN????
 
2012-09-25 5:38:29 PM  

burning_bridge: Unless you're prone to have panic attacks. Then you get used to the idea of waiting around to see if you chill out first.  Because going to the ER 4-9 times a week because you "don't hesitate and take chances" will get real expensive real quick.


Indeed.
 
2012-09-25 5:39:16 PM  

bubo_sibiricus: But what about dubstep?

wub wub wub wub wuuuuubbbbb wubwubwuuw wub wuuuuuubbbb


Or a Gangnam Style heart attack.
 
2012-09-25 5:39:55 PM  
You might be having a heart attack. EVERYONE PANI... wait, that's not right.

I have ubber stress right now and have had light headedness before (to the point of having to lie down or pass out). I have my BP checked every week (good so far). Life after 45 sucks.
 
2012-09-25 5:46:09 PM  
We're all going to die at some point. Don't fight it! Social Security is going broke (not to mention Medicare). I would suggest that if your're not feeling well go outside and shovel some snow.
 
2012-09-25 5:47:57 PM  

elkraf: We're all going to die at some point. Don't fight it! Social Security is going broke (not to mention Medicare). I would suggest that if your're not feeling well go outside and shovel some snow.


Now we know Paul Ryan's Fark handle.
 
2012-09-25 5:48:22 PM  
I was nailing on a roof when I had my first heart attack. Hurt like hell, and I had to sit under a tree until I could breath again. This went on all afternoon, but I finished the roof and went to the ER the next day when it all started again. Second one my employee and I felted in a roof we had just torn off before I had him drive me to the ER. Third one I just crawled under my truck to get out of the sun until I could breath again, in between trips hauling concrete and dirt into my dump truck. I never did go to the hospital for that one.
 
2012-09-25 5:55:58 PM  
I had the chest pain that went down my left arm and sometimes even into my neck both immediately before and following a heart surgery for a valve defect and aortic aneurism. Having been assured that I did not at any point suffer a heart attack, and that my CT scans and MRIs all look perfect, considering, I now just ignore this. It would be an expensive waste, I'd pretty much live at the hospital, and I'd never get anything done if I called for an ambulance every farking time that happened.
 
2012-09-25 6:04:19 PM  

boyvoyeur: You might be having a heart attack. EVERYONE PANI... wait, that's not right.

I have ubber stress right now and have had light headedness before (to the point of having to lie down or pass out). I have my BP checked every week (good so far). Life after 45 sucks.


Have a 5 y/o kid to keep up with (42), that should keep the ticker going - I hope
 
2012-09-25 6:04:28 PM  
I was right 'cheer sitting at the 'puter after my toast for breakfast when I got hit with uncontrollable chills. My teeth are chattering. I grabbed a blanket, felt worse, called the nieghbor to ask for ride to the nearby ER.

You ain't lived until you're in the room, not been told anything, and all of the doctors start running around doing everything short of grabbing for the paddles.

Turned out my heart is mostly stubbonly healthy
 
2012-09-25 6:06:56 PM  
Who ignores sudden blindness?
 
2012-09-25 6:08:15 PM  

BronyMedic: Don't drive yourself if you're symptomatic. Call 911. You're better waiting five minutes, and having the ER brought to you, than you are driving to the hospital, passing out from an arrhythmia on the way, and crashing into someone's house.

And another point to be made: You will NOT get seen faster and treated faster if you go yourself, versus calling 911. Paramedics have these nifty things called 12-lead EKGs, which can identify time-critical heart attacks as they are developing, and get you into the cath lab just as fast, if not faster, than going straight to an ER. They also have the ability to begin immediate, and lifesaving drug therapies at your doorstep.

Lsherm: I had a doctor mention to me once that blinding pain in your left arm isn't a great metric for whether or not you're having a heart attack. He said feeling like you have really bad gas and profuse sweating are far better indicators.

The last two heart attacks I've treated have had "flu like symptoms" and pain behind the shoulder blades, unaffected with movement, as the presenting complaint. Usually, the "pain" will be a throbbing ache or numbness, oddly enough. Not saying people can't have "blinding" pain, but it's rather unusual to see cardiac pain in the left arm described as "blinding"


So you mean the time I woke up at 4 am convinced I was having a heart attack, my decision to get out of bed and walk the six blocks to the ER was the WRONG one?

(yes apparent the first and only time I ever had an "energy " drink, it gave me my first ever "panic attack" AND made me stupid simultaneously)
 
2012-09-25 6:13:59 PM  

Antimatter: Heart attacks are serious business. One claimed my father at 52, not 3 months ago.

If you have a risk of heart disease, or a history of it in the family, don't wait till your older to start managing risk. Get your blood tested for cholesterol, stay in shape, don't smoke, and watch what you eat. It sucks, yeah, but it can add years to your life and spare your family some grief.


Sorry to hear about your dad. I recently started having heart palpitations and decided I needed to take better care if myself for my family's sake. So now I go cycling almost every day, up oi 50 miles on weekends. Best decision Ive made recently, I feel much better.
 
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