lizyrd: rooftop235: Philly, another dumbass town I won't be visiting. I cannot believe that this guy is in trouble.What got me more is that people objected to the 'gentrification' of that area. Do they WANT to be ghetto???/wow. just wow.Improving the neighborhood isn't going to improve the lot in life of people that live there. When the area becomes "gentrified," the values go up. Then the rent goes up. Then wealthier, trendy urbanites start moving in and rent goes up more. Then the original residents have to move out as their leases expire. Someone in that type of situation is more likely to walk or bus to work. They're likely to have a neighborhood support network that will be broken up. They're not likely to have excess money for moving expenses.Not to say that cities shouldn't be renewed, but you can't blame poor people for worrying about being forced out of their neighborhood by economics. If they could afford a place that wasn't next to a vacant lot filled with garbage, they probably wouldn't be living next to a vacant lot filled with garbage.
Palvar: SnakeLee: They pretty much have to or they're inviting random people to start messing around on the other 1,499 lots they have. If some dumbass hurts themselves on another lot while cleaning or whatever, then the city is liable for more than it would cost to clean up every lot in the city."Right, except the city doesn't shovel sidewalks or maintain any of their property, so they are already opening themselves up to lawsuits. I'm not sure about the city itself, but our transit authority gets sued over 3,000 times a year. Imagine being the solicitor for SEPTA and being served more than 10 times a day, every day of the year.Ori has been trying to buy this property for years, but the councilperson is saving it for a favored campaign donor. Also, the city controls over 15,000 lots through various agencies.
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loonatic112358: simplicimus: Nah, nobody takes out the trash on the politics tab.of course, it's late the dumps closed, just go throw it over a cliff
simplicimus: Fark Angelic Choir: simplicimus: WTP 2: clean-up and leave a group-W benchKid, What'd you get?I didn't get nothin'. I had to pay fifty dollars and pick up the garbage.I'm impressed at the number of us who remember that song.
SockMonkeyHolocaust: Apparently, the lot was bought by the city in the late 70s and then it just sat on it. That's not very good development there, Lou.
theodopolis13: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: beefoe: Yes, the city owned the lot for 40 years and let it become a trash dump.Please provide a citation to a source that says the city owned the lot for forty years.FTA: "The one at 20th and Annin has been available "for a significant period of time," Chrystie said."40 years is a significant period of time, is it not?
rooftop235: Philly, another dumbass town I won't be visiting. I cannot believe that this guy is in trouble.What got me more is that people objected to the 'gentrification' of that area. Do they WANT to be ghetto???/wow. just wow.
bdub77: Sounds like the government officials involved have a power complex. That and they didn't want to have to maintain the lot or have any liability for it so they put up big barriers and kept the weeds there to keep people from trespassing on it. Now that people can and will use the space, they have some liability for it which they have to pay for so they are pissed. They should just deal with it and sell the lot to the guy, but the guy has backed them into a corner to get the lot and now they would prefer to f*ck him over than work with him.
simplicimus: Nah, nobody takes out the trash on the politics tab.
loonatic112358: shouldn't this sort of garbage be on the politics tab, and refuse'd from the front page?
djh0101010: Enema Man: Is it Thanksgiving already?I can't bring myself to mentally replay the whole thing, but, can you please tell me why this is a Thanksgiving tradition?/taught myself the guitar riff in college - it seemed more useful at the time than actually studying.//er, my FIRST college, who kicked me out for, um, not studying.
WTP 2: clean-up and leave a group-W bench
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