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(Gadsden Times)   Alabama town has 130% voter turnout. It would have been 160%, but they caught several hundred people voting twice   ( gadsdentimes.com) divider line
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2012-08-31 07:51:56 PM  
Elections sound good in theory, but, in the real world, there has NEVER been an honest election.
2012-08-31 08:11:51 PM  

vpb: CommieTaoist: Does anyone else find the term "Black Belt" as used in this context extremely racist?

No, it refers to the soil, and most of the voters in the town are black so they would have changed the name of the city if they had a problem with it.

Well, on one hand, the term "Black Belt" refers to the soil--the soil in an area that stretches through a large part of the South.

from wiki:
"The region and its boundaries have varying definitions, but it is generally considered a band through the center of the Deep South, although stretching from as far north as Delaware to as far west as eastern Texas....

Black Belt is still used in the physiographic sense, to describe a crescent-shaped region about 300 miles (480 km) long and up to 25 miles (40 km) wide, extending from southwest Tennessee to east-central Mississippi and then east through Alabama to the border with Georgia."

So even though, as you say, "most of the voters in the town are black," it's not like they could vote to change the name of the entire region.

On the other hand, I think the term itself is very much on the low end of things that black people in the South should be concerned with. But I could be wrong; next time I speak with one my cousins down there, I'll ask them about it.
2012-08-31 08:20:29 PM  

JustGetItRight: zarberg: JustGetItRight: You're right of course that the west Alabama situation is more accurately election fraud. There are numerous cases of voter fraud in the same area (one idiot went on a local news broadcast and bragged on how he got $20 for his vote) but if those instance were the only problem there wouldn't really be a problem.

If it's such a problem that a Farker like you is so easily aware of it, I'm sure you can cite evidence to show this?

Guess you missed the stories I linked to above. Here are some google results. You can follow the stories yourself. Just stick with the mainstream media ones and you'll find the same theme over and over again.


From one of the stories found in the link you posted:

Did someone brag to Artur Davis about committing voter fraud?
Truth Rating: 2 out of 5

Read more: Bama Fact Check - Did someone brag to Artur Davis about committing voter fraud Truth Rating 2 out of 5

2012-08-31 08:34:11 PM  

JustGetItRight: Absentee fraud is the usual way. There have been election results for other cities in that area where greater than 75% of the ballots cast were absentee.

If this is true, how will photo-ID laws stop this?
2012-08-31 10:12:42 PM  
And let this be a lesson to you all: Vote early and vote often.
2012-08-31 10:22:51 PM  

HighOnCraic: JustGetItRight: Absentee fraud is the usual way. There have been election results for other cities in that area where greater than 75% of the ballots cast were absentee.

If this is true, how will photo-ID laws stop this?

As I said earlier, they won't.
2012-09-01 12:08:28 AM  
You're goddamn right there has been voter fraud going on in AL, subby, as well as judicial fraud:


The Alabama Republicans, with a little help from their pal Karl Rove have ruined the lives and careers of two men, one a former governor and are sending Don Siegleman back to prison for over 6 years, a story which got buried under the Olympics and election coverage. Anyone who cares about the integrity of our juridical and electoral systems should take a look at the articles linked to in here. It really is sickening and scary, considering we have an election coming up. Link

Is there corruption in Alabama politics? Absolutely Everyone involved in the JeffCo sewer debacle deserves to rot in jail, but the prosecution of Gov. Siegleman, is extremely troubling to say the least. And the people crying "vote fraud!" ahead of the investigation deserve a swift kick in the nads. Especially Artur Davis.
2012-09-01 12:15:17 AM  
D'oh! and by "voter fraud" I meant "election fraud".
2012-09-01 04:04:09 AM  
The number that makes them angry isn't 130%. It's 81%. "Black people voting? Nobody believes they'd put their crack pipes down long enough to do that."

When you accept the premise that black voters are fraudulent by definition, 81% makes you hysterical.
2012-09-01 04:08:15 AM  
And this is how Obama got elected.
2012-09-01 04:19:06 AM  

JustGetItRight: zarberg: So maybe you can explain why a single mostly-black, mostly-democratic town in Alabama would commit individual voter fraud on such a large scale as to have it be obvious beyond reason that something was amiss?

See my previous posts. Because most of the time nobody cares. The counties are small and removed from population centers. There's little access to even a simple thing like high speed internet. When the state was predominately democratic (which was until 2010 in the legislature), the state leaders didn't care because the locals were going to vote for them no matter what. Now that the state leaders are all Republican and don't care because the locals (a) aren't going to vote for them and (b) aren't enough to matter.

Here's a 2002 story from the area. Note that a county with a population of 11,000 had four times the number of absentee ballots cast as Tuscaloosa county, which has a population of 77,000.

Put yeah, I know. Systemic voter fraud isn't real. It is all about the man keeping people down.

"Small county in Alabama."

"Systemic voter fraud" (with clear implication that it happens everywhere--well except for good honest GOP districts of course)

Uh huh.

So. Some people commit crimes with guns. Therefore...

*outrage supernova*
2012-09-01 04:36:16 PM  

thrgd456: And this is how Obama got elected.

In 2008, John McCain won in Alabama by a fairly wide margin (1,264,879--60.4% to 811,764--38.8%), earning its 9 electoral college votes. How exactly did that help Obama get elected?

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