Silly Jesus: Is there anything that can make you more retarded than religion?
gwowen: Interestingly, glasses that prevent you seeing anything you don't agree with is exactly what Tatsuma uses to peruse the news.
Deep Contact: Maybe they should just gouge out their eyes. I mean, the glasses could slip down the nose.
space_cadet_28: Historically where are ultra-orthodox jews from? This didnt exist in Poland.
Tatsuma: Yet again, three guys do something in Meah Shearim, and it creates an article worldwide that pans all Orthodox Jews.The people who do this (the self-appointed modesty squad) are merely a bunch of thugs, without any supervision whatsoever, who terrorize their own population in Chareidi neighborhoods.These are the people who also go to Iran to kiss Ahmadinejad, or support Hamas and Fatah, or spit at a little girl, or burn down stores.They are barely in the low hundreds if you include both the members, supporters and their own families. This is how small they are. They are the Westboro Church of Judaism and do not in any way whatsoever represent the lifestyle of Chareidi Jews, we are all annoyed by that but guess what, no central authority, and these people don't even listen to their own Rabbis in the first place.These people are Neturei Karta, or as they now like to be known, Sikrikim (the zealots).I had to learn about these glasses on the internet, and I live in that friggin neighborhood.
liam76: Good for them. If you really think you need to follow your backwards beliefs, fine, but the burden shoudl be entirely on you.
tom baker's scarf: theorellior JackieRabbit: Silly Jesus: Is there anything that can make you more retarded than religion?A. Orthodox religionUltra-Orthodox religion.Ulta-Orthodox with political aspirations.
Andulamb: At least this puts the responsibility for a man's sin on the man and not on women. Men can't control their sexual urges? Fine. Then cover your eyes or cut off your junk. Don't blame women for your own thoughts.
Here'sJohnny: If I had to guess I'd say Brooklyn or Queens.
Magorn: I feel for ya Tats, it's always the idiots that take something too far that Ruin It For Everybody. Niven's law: "No cause is so noble that it won't attract farkheads"Magorn's corollary: "And it's the Farkheads the media will always designate as spokespeople for the cause
iheartscotch: Why do you guys care? If you're not an orthodox Jew; this doesn't affect you. In fact; it provides extra entertainment. You get to watch Hasidic jews bump into stuff and fall down. I bet that it even screws up their vision for the rest of their lives./ it's not funny when someone hurts themself; it's hilarious
Tatsuma: Yeah I have to turn off the images now
macadamnut: "What's the matter, bubby?"
Tatsuma: Ultra-Orthodox Jews are just those Jews who do the extra mile, and sadly within that minority there is a stupid minority, as there are in everything.At least the worst they do is scream at people, spit and yell. They don't actually kill or attack people (save the VERY few incidents) and when that happens, it is usually other Orthodox Jews that are attacked, not the non-religious.
Valiente: So I have an interest in seeing their breeding of each other and their pinheaded belief systems restricted as much as possible.
Tatsuma: Tatsuma: Yeah I have to turn off the images nowREUTERS NEWS ALERT: ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS IN JERUSALEM NOW CENSORING PICTURES OF WOMEN ON THE INTERNET
indylaw: I offer this in the most earnest and non-accusatory sense possible. Within the haredi community, many if not most seem to pursue a life apart from the secular community and the world at large. When they keep to themselves, though, it allows the lunatic fringe to set their image for them. I mean, there's you coming on here to explain that this is not a widespread thing among the population of Mea Shearim or Crown Heights or Kiryas Joel, but most people don't hear it. The ultra-Orthodox community seems to invite wild speculation about these things because they are generally insular by choice. Wouldn't it behoove the communities to at least have some public information office to handle public relations and perception among the general population, if indeed you guys do care at all what the broader public thinks about you and dispelling perceptions based on the actions of Neturei Karta fanatics?
NightOwl2255: theorellior: JackieRabbit: Silly Jesus: Is there anything that can make you more retarded than religion?A. Orthodox religionUltra-Orthodox religion.Double secret Ultra-Orthodox religion.
PsyLord: I can't believe we are they are living in the 21 century.
Tatsuma: I will agree with the sentiment that at least they, for once, are doing it to themselves and not forcing it on others.
Tatsuma: We do care, but we are a very very decentralized religion. We don't have a Sanhedrin. We don't have a King. Heck, we don't even have a spokesman we could all agree on. We are an incredibly splintered community, how could we ever put out our message our, when we can't even agree on what the details are?You heard of two jews, three opinions, right? It makes this mess look good.
indylaw: You may not have a Sanhedrin, but it seems like at least the various sects of Orthodoxy, or the people within a given Orthodox community, could agree upon someone for the limited purpose of dispelling perceptions that haredim are often threatening and actively hostile to secular women or that all the frum men are going around with Mr. Magoo glasses to avoid accidentally seeing some tramp's legs.
vudukungfu: Women have boobs.Get over it, you medieval neanderfarks.Your invisible sky wizard invented them, too.
Ed Grubermann: Why do I think religion is some asinine form of collective insanity? Oh, I don't know...
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